Amcallister

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Speedy deletion nomination of TorSearch

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A tag has been placed on TorSearch, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Index of hidden wikis

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A tag has been placed on Index of hidden wikis requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. m'encarta (t) 22:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

My response to the speedy deletion tags on TorSearch and Index of hidden wikis

I contested both these deletions, and gave a fairly long explanation on the talk pages for both articles. See Talk:TorSearch and Talk:Index of hidden wikis

Please take this into consideration. If you ask me, I am willing to rewrite the articles (or you can help me do that) but I think these articles are important to Wikipedia, which has a rather poor index of Tor hidden sites currently. For reasons I explain on both talk pages, these pages belong in an encyclopedia, much more than anywhere else.

In order to demonstrate that the topic is notable you need to show that there has been significant coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. See WP:GNG. You've linked to some websites which talk about the topic, but it's not clear that they're reliable (e.g. respected and subject to editorial oversight). It would be better if you cite sources which are more mainstream. Scholarly works, published books, newspapers, or major news websites (e.g. Wired, but probably not Slashdot) would be ideal. Pburka (talk) 23:30, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Note that the article that you created and I nominated at CSD, TorSearch, seems more like a "how-to" guide than an encyclopedia article. See WP:NOTGUIDE. Epicgenius^{(give him tirade • check out damage)} 23:42, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Please bear in mind that Wikipedia is not a directory. Unless a subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources, it is not suitable for an article. Unsourced or unreliably sourced material may be removed because it has issues with verification.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:16, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Index of hidden wikis and Tor hidden service directories for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Index of hidden wikis and Tor hidden service directories is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Index of hidden wikis and Tor hidden service directories until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. tutterMouse (talk) 14:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Copied from Talk:Index of hidden wikis and Tor hidden service directories (because the fate of that page seems to be in doubt)

All directories of Tor sites/services purport to be legitimate. None of them say "click here for some malware." How do you propose standards be enforced on this page? What will you be drawing from in order to mark certain sites as scams, others as containing malware, and others as legitimate? Or will the contents be entirely original research? It seems the only way to do it in an encyclopedic way is to go by the typical Wikipedia standards of verifiability, no original research, reliable sources, and arguably "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". If there aren't reliable sources for each, whether it's helpful to have is secondary. It would also be helpful to have lists of directories of every kind of website -- or lists of websites individually -- which can also present all of those same hazards.

Tl;dr - Lots of things are helpful but don't belong on Wikipedia. An encyclopedia article or encyclopedic list here requires the subject as well as its entries to be verifiable in significant reliable sources (and not primary sources). I know how sketchy using Tor is, and that reliable sites are lacking, but I think you'll find that arguing something isn't offered elsewhere is a quick way to deletion from Wikipedia. --Rhododendrites (talk) 23:34, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

"TorSearch" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect TorSearch and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 3#TorSearch until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Greatder (talk) 10:37, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of TorSearch for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article TorSearch is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TorSearch until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:15, 5 October 2022 (UTC)