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So a print encyclopedia, a strawberry shortcake, and a sycamore walk into a bar - wait, have you heard this one? (talk) 23:24, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Schrödinger's pussy

I disagree with your closer of Schrödinger's pussy as "delete", it looks like a "no consensus" to me. You said ""Pussy" may indeed be a synonym for "cat" but I find the argument that that implies Schrödinger's pussy is therefore reasonable to be unconvincing." It doesn't really matter weather the creator had poor faith, because every one of those keeps was good faith, and we're judging the redirect itself, not the creator. You personality don't, but I, and almost all the other keeps did (also WP:CHEAP). Lastly, there were almost as many keep votes as there were delete votes. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 18:55, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

I will agree that the faith of the creator is not in of itself a deciding factor - although it was worth mentioning as the page might have easily been proffered under WP:CSD#G3 at the time - you are correct that I was judging consensus toward the redirect only and not the editor. As for the close itself, of course you and the other keep !votes feel it should have been kept, that is why there is a consensus-determining process. Consensus is not a direct vote, and when judging consensus one must weigh the value of any side. On the one hand, those voicing for a Keep decision essentially said "Eh, technically pussy means cat" but could not answer the concern that "pussy" equates to "cat" doesn't imply that "Schrodinger's pussy" equates to "Schrodinger's cat"; that argument was quite strong. On the other hand, the redirect was unencyclopedic and an unlikely search term, claims made by those favoring a Delete outcome which were not successively countered. Sure, a number of good editors in good faith thought it should remain, and sure, the numbers were largely the same, but the fact remains that the arguments levied were not equivalent. ~ Amory (utc) 21:40, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
As for answering the concern that "pussy" equates to "cat" doesn't imply that "Schrodinger's pussy" equates to "Schrodinger's cat", that was implied. "Pussy" = "cat" (or "vagina", but that that meaning is irreverent here). "Schrodinger's pussy" = incorrect name for "Schrodinger's cat" (say, if someone miss-remembers the exact word used for "cat" in that pharise).
As for what you said about judging consensus and weigh the value of any side, that's exactly what I did when I voted (I'm one of the people who closes RFD's). I judged that "harmless" and "No compelling reason to delete" concerns (which were not successively countered) was much stronger then the "Eh, technically "Schrodinger's pussy" doesn't equate to "Schrodinger's cat" argument. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 22:16, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Then we disagree. I find "unencyclopedic," "implausible," and "joke redirect" all to be valid reasons for deletion. ~ Amory (utc) 22:58, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Mediumship mistake

Thanks, made a mistake.-19afisher — Preceding unsigned comment added by 19afisher1 (talkcontribs) 01:06, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

United Macedonia vandal

Hello, I noticed you just blocked 101.162.40.180 for vandalizing the United Macedonia article. Could you please do the same to the new spinoff vandal, 121.222.147.227? Thanks. --Local hero talk 18:11, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

And 60.228.74.20 now, too. The article should probably be protected. --Local hero talk 18:14, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
  Done ~ Amory (utc) 18:29, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. --Local hero talk 18:47, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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Permiso

Hola. Gracias por atender mi solicitud. Creí que eran mínimo cincuenta ediciones, pues así es en es-wp. Saludos!!--Diego Leandro 19:39, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

De nada. ~ Amory (utc) 19:44, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Granting confirmed right

Hello, I noticed you granted the confirmed user right to Csamantello (talk · contribs) in response to a request to unprotect Troy High School (California) at WP:RFPP. Although the user's first few edits to that article have been constructive, the user has been edit warring with me over a BLP violation. I have asked the user to engage me in discussion on the talk page and s/he responded with an edit summary that indicates that s/he did not even read the relevant talk page discussion. Additionally, I noted from his/her request at WP:RFPP ([1]) that s/he claimed to be a representative of the school administration; however, according to the school's website there is no indication that a person by this name is on the staff ([2]).

I respectfully request that you reconsider granting this user right. Thank you. —KuyaBriBriTalk 21:07, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I think it was really inappropriate for you to template Csamantello like that. You are clearly an involved editor, having made the exact same number of reverts as Csamantello has. How would you feel if s/he placed that template on your page? Please reread WP:BITE. The user has now commented on the talk page and is clearly without intent to further contribute, which I do not consider a good thing. There is some merit to your assertion for BLP concerns in regards to some of the names, however Csamantello even provided you with a source. You yourself failed to engage on the talkpage, opting not to go the bold-revert-discuss route. At any rate, your request is a moot point given that the user only needs to wait a couple of days before being autoconfirmed and that the editor has indicated disengagement. ~ Amory (utc) 23:20, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #52

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • The first year is over. Thank you everyone for being amazing and helping to build Wikidata and making it more than we could possibly have hoped for already. <3
    • Put a lot of work into improved support for Internet Explorer 8
    • Worked on improving recent changes code in client
    • Finished valueview refactoring. Created new extension “ValueView”
    • Implemented string formatter
  • Discussions/Press
  • Events
    • upcoming: GLAM-Wiki 2013
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • Deployment of phase 2 on English Wikipedia is currently planned for April 8. The remaining Wikipedias are scheduled for April 10. As usual this might change if we run into problems along the way.
    • There is now a page showing the current lag for changes propagating to the Wikipedias so they can show up in watchlists and recent changes for example. This should ideally be in the range of a few minutes. Right now it is higher because of some abnormally high bot activity but decreasing. Should be down to a few minutes soon.
    • There’s now a badge you can add to Wikipedia articles to indicate there is data about it on Wikidata
    • We hit Q10000000
    • A Wikidata item in the wild ;-)
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I strongly disagree

I strongly disagree with you syaing that I am a sock puppet of user:Dy11111. I truly don't know "User:Dy11111". May you remove me from the list?? Because I just decided to open up that case. I have nothing to do with "user:Dy11111"! - Cre81ve 07:26, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Perth Montessori School

202.72.153.151 (talk · contribs) - Recently caught this one vandalising the article above just hours after you blocked 58.7.107.74 (talk · contribs) post-AIV - any indications of socking/block evasion? hmssolent\Let's convene My patrols 08:21, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

  Likely WP:DUCK block-evasion, evidenced by this edit. I was asleep, though, so this is now a bit stale due to timezones. There's a bit of a history so I just semi'd it for a brief period. ~ Amory (utc) 13:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

You have a message!

 
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Melissa Tanataquidgeon Zobel

Hello Amorymeltzer,

I am DPWinslow and currently a senior at UNH looking to create a wikipedia article as a class project. The class is an upper level English course focused on contemporary Native American authors. My author is Melissa Tanataquidgeon Zobel and I've had a couple issues in creating the article. First of all, in my sandbox, I have all of the references and internal links properly done. However, when I copied and pasted the information into the "create article" section where it is now pending, none of the links transferred just the text. I believe it will be rejected since it doesn't include the links. I wanted to know how to make exactly what is in my sandbox become the content for article submission. The other issue is that I inadvertently created an article titled "Melissa Tantaquidgeon Zobel", and once again the text was all that transferred and not the links. I deleted the article and the blank page received the speed deletion process. Now I can't create my article because of this prior error, since the page already exists. How can I create the article with all its references and links as it is displayed in my sandbox? I am very new to Wikipedia and would appreciate any assistance.

Best regards,

Parker Winslow DPWinslow (talk) 21:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Glad to hear that you're working hard, and sorry you've had some issues! As far as I can see, I think your basic problem is that you are copying the text you see at User:DPWinslow/sandbox instead of moving the content from the inside of the edit page. Now, as it turns out, that's a good thing because simply copying and pasting material doesn't result in a perfect paper trail of edits and contribution history. That paper trail is required by the copyright policies that Wikipedia operates under ([creativecommons.org Creative Commons CC-BY-SA]). The way to get around this issue is simple, use the "move" button on your screen. That will allow you to move your sandbox into the main, article space, while specifying an appropriate page name.
But hold on! It's not quite ready for primetime. The edits you made the past three days (one each) were to basically copy and paste the text back in there. That's why the page content is essentially duplicated, but the references don't show up and instead you just have numbers like this: [8]. Nobody wants that. Plus, the templates you placed on the page, namely the ones for an Articles for Creation review and the User Sandbox don't belong in a mature article either. If you feel confident in the quality of the page you can remove those as well, and then move it.
If you'd like, why not remove the duplicate content, get it ready for moving, and then post back here if you want me to give it a once over. I'd be happy to answer any other questions, too. (Although I'm a tad busy at the moment so may not respond swiftly) ~ Amory (utc) 22:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for granting me the reviewer right! Jsharpminor (talk) 04:11, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Meetup NYC this Sunday April 14

Hi Amorymeltzer! You're invited to our next meeting for Wikipedia Meetup NYC on Sunday April 14 -this weekend- at Symposium Greek Restaurant @ 544 W 113th St (in the back room), on the Upper West Side in the Columbia University area.

Please sign up, and add your ideas to the agenda for Sunday. Thanks!

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For more information and to sign up, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 36. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 19:11, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #53

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • Got some external professional review of our code and architecture and started working on their feedback
    • Worked on reducing the dispatch lag (the time it takes for changes on Wikidata to be sent to the Wikipedias for display in watchlist, recent changes and to purge affected pages)
    • Worked on using Redis for job queue to improve the lag situation even further
    • Created new Wikibase Query extension for phase 3 functionality
    • Autocomments & Autosummaries for SetClaim module
    • Worked on the GeoCoordinate parser
  • Events/Press
    • right now: GLAM-WIKI 2013
  • Discussions
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
    • Deployment of phase 2 on the remaining Wikipedias was delayed because of a high lag of changes being propagated to the Wikipedias. The lag has been reduced considerably now and is going down even more. The new date for deployment will not be next week because there are other large changes on Wikimedia infrastructure scheduled that we do not want to interfere with. It will hopefully happen very soon after that though.
    • Next code update on wikidata.org is planned for Wednesday. This should include qualifiers and bugfixes.
    • There will probably be a short outage/read-only for wikidata.org on Tuesday (database is being switched to MariaDB)
    • If you're a student and interested in coding on Wikidata consider applying for Google Summer of Code.
    • There is a new user right: property creators
    • There is now a page to request deletion of a property
    • We now have Bureaucrats
    • Reasonator was improved and extended (1 2)
  • Open Tasks for You

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Reviewer rights

Thanks for granting me reviewer rights! --Cameron11598 (Converse) 02:22, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for granting me reviewer rights. Levdr1lostpassword / talk 15:05, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Regarding rollback rights.

Do you think I am now capable of holding the rollback rights? Earlier you had told me at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback that I contact you at your talk page after a week. I have done a lot of reviewing and anti-vandalism edits after that. I would be happy if you provide me with the rollback permission and promise to take maximum care while using it. - Jayadevp13 16:05, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Okay, I'm granting this. You have done a fair bit of reviewing lately, but most of that isn't rollback-ready. Please remember to be careful when using rollback - it should basically only be used on other editors if you are going to warn them. The "vandalism" link on Twinkle is essentially the same thing. Good luck and happy editing! ~ Amory (utc) 16:37, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. Thanks a lot. You can take it back if you think I am misusing it. - Jayadevp13 11:05, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Chocoholic

Hello! You recently deleted the redirect page Chocoholic since it was pointing toward a deleted page, Chocoholism. Actually the Chocoholism page was about to be restored after rewriting, but somebody jumped the gun and set up this redirect before the target article was moved to mainspace. Chocoholism is live now; is it OK with you if I restore Chocoholic as a redirect? Thanks. --MelanieN (talk) 02:38, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Did it myself. Glad to see it returned! ~ Amory (utc) 14:22, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! --MelanieN (talk) 14:34, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

DC meetups on April 19 and 20

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for two exciting events this weekend:

On the evening of Friday, April 19, we're hosting our first-ever WikiSalon at our K Street office. The WikiSalon will be a twice-monthly informal meetup and collaborative editing event to help build the community of Wikimedia enthusiasts here in DC; please join us for its inaugural session. Light refreshments will be provided.

On Saturday, April 20, we've partnered with the George Washington University to host the All Things GW Edit-a-Thon at the Teamsters Labor History Research Center. Please join us for behind-the-scenes tours of the University Archives and help edit articles about GWU history.

We look forward to seeing you at one or both of these events! Kirill [talk] 20:16, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Your input is requested

Greetings, Amorymeltzer/Archive 4! If we have not met, I'm AutomaticStrikeout. I've come here to ask you to take part in the survey at User:AutomaticStrikeout/Are admins interested in a RfB?. I am trying to gauge the general level of interest that administrators have in running for cratship, as well as pinpoint the factors that affect that interest level. Your input will be appreciated. Happy editing, AutomaticStrikeout (TCSign AAPT) 02:01, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey. Thanks for creating the redirect Tom Ellison—I was just about to re-request its creation (I thought the declining reason was poor), and saw that you'd created it. - Shudde talk 10:19, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

"Butcher of the Balkans"

You closed the RfD discussion by keeping the redirect, but the article had become a fairly stable disambiguation page in the middle of the process. Someone brought that up at the RfD and the remainder of the discussion did not provide a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC deliberation.

After that point, the original nominator mentioned consistent use, but that's not the same as primary topic. One editor (User:Thryduulf) then said:

Milošević is the primary use of the term. It is also, but less often used for Mladić [...] and also Ante Pavelić. [...] I wonder if an article about the epithet would be possible? As for this case, I think the redirect to Milošević should stay and the dab page be linked from a hatnote.

After that, User:Evlekis argued:

The label bestowed on Mladić is far more common than most realise [...]

And this was backed up by User:PRODUCER.

Later, Thryduulf said:

There has to be disambiguation, yes, but this title does not have to be a dab page - if there is a primary topic then his should be a redirect and either hatnotes or Butcher of the Balkans (disambiguation) should contain the disambiguation.

So they were no longer insisting on Milošević being the primary topic - it became a conditional.

Later still, I also argued Milošević didn't meet the primary topic criteria. Nobody argued with me about it for another week.

Overall, of all the people who earlier in the discussion said "keep" - as in "don't delete the redirect" - none of them have actually consistently argued against a full disambiguation page.

Would you please adjust the outcome to something that won't make moving the disambiguation page back in place look out of order? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:02, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Are you saying that since moving the locations of the disambiguations would be out of process, I should retroactively change how I interpreted the discussion? That is completely backwards. Here's what I read:
  • 6 different editors felt the redirect should be kept, some rather strongly.
  • Emmette noted that it had been turned into a disambiguation.
  • Following that, there was Producer !voting keep, which we can interpret to mean the dab, Evlekis, who had switched from delete to keeping the dab (despite still arguing against WP:RNEUTRAL), and yourself.
That's it. Pointing to Thryduulf is silly - it's just one editor, and one editor who said "As for this case, I think the redirect to Milošević should stay and the dab page be linked from a hatnote." S/he was speaking in the general in your quote, responding to Evlekis' demand that there "has to be a disambiguation," noting even that this did not need to be that place. That was a surprising number of people for an RfD discussion, the fact that nobody else joined for a few days is not particularly surprising. Besides, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
At any rate, I've got nothing invested in this aside from how I feel I interpreted the discussion. I'm not 100% sure that WP:DRV is the place to go for this, are you more experienced over there? It doesn't seem like a perfect fit but I'm not sure where else we might take this sort of thing outside of some canvassing. ~ Amory (utc) 14:52, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
You're not considering the fact that the original discussion came about as a choice between keeping the redirect and deleting it. Of course people !voted to keep it because it does actually refer to Milošević (quite often). But, the original discussion did not entertain the possibility of disambiguation - nor did it have to, really. My point is that the premise changed with the introduction of that possibility - the notion of keeping or deleting the redirect became moot because both would mean deleting a disambiguation page - which isn't what was discussed. I think canvassing those six people would be useful, to see where they stand. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 21:36, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Well I don't think that's true. Evlekis tried to speedy it, which was inappropriate, so when Fvasconcellos brought it up it was to merely have a discussion. It's redirects for discussion, not deletion, after all. I don't know that it makes everyone's opinion moot, the fact that they never even considered a disambiguation could even imply they didn't think it worthy; the only editor from before the dab'ing was Thryduulf, who still wanted a redirect. You don't think DRV would be appropriate, then? I guess I'm not opposed to WP:CANVASS but it just seems... weird. ~ Amory (utc) 22:09, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

What it needs is a fresh round of talks concerning those that took original interest. There are issues with the current arrangement which would never have materialised had we all believed the sobriquet was the exclusive preserve of one individual. I for one have explained why this is all inappropriate on Talk:Butcher of the Balkans (disambiguation) and in light of the fact that it is clear certain users favour a separate layout, I believe there should be a platform for discussion somewhere. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 04:26, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 April 2013

An Barnstar for You!

 
The AFC Backlog Buster Barnstar
 

Congratulations, Amorymeltzer! You're receiving a Brownie because you reviewed 45 articles during the recent AFC Backlog elimination drive! Thank you for you contributions to Wikipedia at-large and helping to keep the backlog down. We hope you continue reviewing submissions and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! Mdann52 (talk) 12:18, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Deletion review for Butcher of the Balkans

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Butcher of the Balkans. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 08:14, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, would you like to help with H7N9 bird flu?

Hi,

I'm writing to recent participants on the influenza page. I think it's important to cover H7N9, without making it overblown or overstating the case. Any time you can spare to help with the research and/or the editing will be most appreciated. Thanks. Cool Nerd (talk) 16:17, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #54

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Development
    • Dispatch lag is now down to 0 so changes should show up very quickly on the Wikipedias in watchlists and recent changes
    • wikidata.org now always redirects to www.wikidata.org. This should among other things solve the issue where people were not able to edit when on wikidata.org (bugzilla:45005)
    • Fixed weird blocked-user/protected-page handling in UI (bugzilla:45140)
    • Final meetings for the external professional review of our code and architecture. They were quite happy with the quality of the codebase and gave useful tips for improvements
    • Worked on automatic summaries for editing claims
    • Investigation of different JavaScript frameworks dealing with date and time
    • Worked on using Redis and the job queue for change notifications to clients
    • Work on the storage code for answering queries
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    • GLAM-WIKI 2013
    • upcoming: office hour on IRC about sources
    • upcoming: Opensource Treffen
    • upcoming: intro to Wikidata at the British Library
  • Discussions
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Open Tasks for You
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Page deleted

Why was the Page for Sperry Marine deleted from Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.203.137.12 (talk) 11:51, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Sperry Marine was apparently deleted under the criterion for speedy deletion, namely G11, which is for pages that serve only to promote the subject. Basically, it had no verifiable references to establish notability and was highly promotional. ~ Amory (utc) 13:38, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Speedy deletions

It looked like a nonsense one-liner to me, but the article got deleted anyway. NintendoFan (Talk, Contribs) 23:18, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

In this case, yes, I deleted it under A7. But G1 doesn't refer to length or to how it is written, just whether it is intelligible. ~ Amory (utc) 23:27, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #55

 
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Wikidata weekly summary #56

 
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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion

I notice that you undertake work at this article. Have I put my query on that article's talk page in the wrong place ? It is hardly earth shattering in its consequence, but I would have thought that someone might have posted an opinion after this period of time. Thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 00:59, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

@Derek R Bullamore: Meh, just create the redirect. If it turns out there needs to be a dab later it's simple enough to do, but right now it hardly looks worthwhile to involve the other mentions. ~ Amory (utc) 14:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice - I have created a redirect page at John Nemeth. Regards,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

AIV

Hi Amory--please block Ilikeweiner (talk · contribs) as a VOA. Thank you. 207.157.121.52 (talk) 17:22, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Notifications box replacement prototypes released

Hey Amorymeltzer; Kaldari has finished scripting a set of potential replacements available to test and give feedback on. Please go to this thread for more detail on how to enable them. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 14:58, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, May 11!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, May 11 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 23:16, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thank You

Thank you for deleting the redirects. They were the result of the way Move works when moving from mainspace to mainspace, but when moving from user subpages to mainspace, it creates empty redirects. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:59, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Rodhullandemureturns

Did you know this was a sock of a banned user? [[3]] Hell In A Bucket (talk) 13:50, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Only after I blocked did I look up to see Rodhu had been banned. ~ Amory (utc) 13:53, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #57

 
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You're invited...

to two upcoming Bay Area events:

  • Maker Faire 2013, Sat/Sun May 18-19, San Mateo -- there will have a booth about Wikimedia, and we need volunteers to talk to the public and ideas for the booth -- see the wiki page to sign up!
  • Edit-a-Thon 5, Sat May 25, 10-2pm, WMF offices in San Francisco -- this will be a casual edit-a-thon open to both experienced and new editors alike! Please sign up if on the wiki page if you can make it so we know how much food to get.

I hope you can join us at one or both! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:51, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Question

If I create accounts, do administrators know my ip address? How to know my ip address if I create accounts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fceefyahoo.ca (talkcontribs) 23:03, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Another sysop replied on the user's talk page. ~ Amory (utc) 00:38, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 May 2013

DC WikiSalon on May 24

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of May 24 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 18:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Rollback

Hi There! You stated that you wont "outright deny" my request for rollback privileges, because of my 700 reverts in a period of 5 days (Using Twinkle) and most of those reverts was using Twinkle, they were also constructive. The last request I placed was denied for obvious reasons, but the admin told me to ask again once I have racked up some reverts, which I did. Please I stayed up all night trying to make Wikipedia a better place, I mainly want rollback to use Huggle and STiki. Cheers The Grand Cenobite (talk) 22:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Rollback is not a big deal. I said I wasn't going to outright deny it because you clearly put in a massive effort but I just wanted to note for another passing sysop that you had a recent request. I am personally of the opinion that both time and edits are needed, sheer numbers isn't necessarily the whole thing. You're clearly enjoying reverting vandalism so why not just continue reverting and don't sweat it?
I will keep reverting vandalism for sure! Cheers The Grand Cenobite (talk) 23:19, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #58

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

The Signpost: 20 May 2013

Webinar / edit-a-thon at the National Library of Medicine (NLM)

Join us at the NLM next week, either in person or online, to learn about NLM resources, hear some great speakers, and do some editing!

 
organized by Wiki Project Med

On Tuesday, 28 May there will be a community Wikipedia meeting at the United States National Library of Medicine in Bethesda, Maryland - with a second on Thursday, 30 May for those who can't make it on Tuesday. You can participate either in-person, or via an online webinar. If you attend in person, USB sticks (but not external drives) are ok to use.

Please go to the event page to get more information, including a detailed program schedule.

If you are interested in participating, please register by sending an email to pmhmeet@gmail.com. Please indicate if you are coming in person or if you will be joining us via the webinar. After registering, you will receive additional information about how to get to our campus (if coming in-person) and details about how to join the webinar. Klortho (talk) 00:56, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #59

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Events/Press
    • Linked Data in Business
    • currently: Hackathon in Amsterdam
  • Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Did you know?
    • Newest properties: catalog code (P528), runway (P529), diplomatic relation (P530), diplomatic mission sent (P531), diplomatic mission sent (P531), port of registry (P532), target (P533), streak color (P534), Find a Grave (P535), ATP id (P536), twinning (P537), fracturing (P538), Museofile (P539)
    • Newest task forces: Ship task force
    • d:Template:Constraint:Item allows to check if items using a given property also have other properties. To find items to fix, it links to one of Magnus' tools and to a daily report. Sample: items with property mother should also have main type (GND) with value person.
  • Development
    • A lot of discussions and hacking at the MediaWiki hackathon on Amsterdam
    • Worked on content negotiation for the RDF export
    • Bugfixing for editing of time datatype
    • Added validation in the api for claim guids. This also resolves bug 48473, an exception being thrown in production, whenever a bot or api user requested a claim with an invalid claim guid
    • Improved error message popup bubbles to show HTML and parse the links correctly
    • Fixed bug 48679, to hide the view source tab for item and property pages
    • Testing on Diff extension and SQLstore
  • Open Tasks for You

G13

As for ANY speedy, you are supposed to look at the articles before you delete them, which you cannot do at 20 per minute. I do not think anybody can responsibly do them at the speed you are doing them , singlehanded, rather than nominating them for deletion for someone else to check. I have already rescued one two of your most recent deletions. One noted sportswriter, one head of a university, more probably.

G13 will be very useful, but not as you are doing it. Please stop doing them singlehanded until it can be discussed whether or not they need to be done by two admins. DGG ( talk ) 03:31, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Quite right you are, DGG. But it is indeed quite possible to review all those articles over a period of over 4 days, which is in fact what I did. You've now rescued 3 as far as I can tell, but it sounds to me like your qualm is really more with the G13 criteria itself as well as the effectiveness and acceptability of reviewers at AfC. I note that mainspace viability is not actually a factor in the G13 criteria, and the obvious consensus in the talkpage discussion is against considering it, where, I'll note, you are one of only four editors disagreeing. This was never about mainspace viability - if it were, the article should never have been declined to begin with. ~ Amory (utc) 05:29, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
No, my qualm is not with G13, it's with the blind application of G13. I look forward to deleting several thousand G13s myself--in fact, it was I who brought forward the problem and suggested we remove the old ones that were unlikely to make articles. I know I am in a minority about what needs to be checked, and I would not continue in the minority unless I were prepared to actually do what I urge others to do, which is to not just examine the articles, but actually rescue them. I've now found a 4th, one of the mayors of Memphis, Tenn.,which I'll have ready in the morning. 4 out of about 40 I looked at, which is about half of the total -- some were obviously impossible. In addition to those 4, there were another 2 or 3 at least that would have been borderline had I restored them, and in fields I do not particular care to work. Normally I would restore them as afcs though not as articles, so that others could work on them, but at this point I don't want to do anything questionable. I think the fact that i found so many might help to convince people, and I want a clean case for it.
You say they should not have been declined; but they were declined because they needed significant work to complete. They were not in a state ready to be accepted, unless the person accepting them was prepared to to do the work themselves, and we usually try to encourage the original editor to do it. What was missing, was not following them up when they weren't worked on; it was missing because the AfC procedure makes no provision for that and nobody individually bothered, even tho some of the reviewers did comment specifically that the work was needed was practical. The real problem, is that the AfC procedure was set up so badly as to let the backlog get in this awful mess.
I apologize for sounding perhaps a little preemptory, but I am faced with the need to work on thousands of articles that others should be helping in but don't seem likely, and I want to do everything I possibly can to convince them before I give up in exhaustion. DGG ( talk ) 07:10, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
So... you're welcome! In all seriousness, I admire the massive effort you've been willing to undertake, but once again it sounds like your problem is with AfC. I'd be quite interested to hear what you think was set up so badly and how to stem the backlog tide, but what you are suggesting is a complete re-evaluation of every submitted draft. That, to me, is advocating a referendum on the entire AfC protocol, turning that into a two-reviewer process. I think you know better than most that notable topics are submitted to the CSD process every day, and as long as there is be a G13, submissions on notable topics will be deleted. The only way to avoid that is to review each one for, as was proposed, mainspace promise/non-AfDability, which is a backdoor way to re-review your fellow AfC reviewers. ~ Amory (utc) 20:23, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
True, I have many problems with AfC, as you will see from various discussions on my talk p., & one of which is the difficulty in reviewing articles. But I certainly intend to use G13--in fact, I was the one who proposed the general idea, though I am surprised people want to do it is so drastic a fashion after having totally neglected the matter for years. Having it is one of the improvements I want to make.
I certainly do intend to review the way people review afcs. When I became an admin, the main reason I gave for the buttons was the desire to review deleted articles, and this was for the purpose not just of catching bad deletions, but people deleting improperly. I've been doing it for 6 years now, and others have been checking also, and speedies are in general being done much more consistently, with much less single-handinded deletions on the grounds of IDONTTHINKITSNOTABLE. What gives me the authority? The inherent ability we all have at WP to correct each other, and the expectation and indeed the need in a crowd-sourcing project for us to do so. People tell me when they think I'm wrong, and if an experienced person tells me so, usually I decide that I may well have been wrong--and sometimes it has changed my own practice. If people think my work is generally reliable, it's not because of any inherent skill, but because they've been instructing me a long time, and I listen. DGG ( talk ) 16:15, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


Questions about my page "The TerraMar Project" being deleted

Hi Amorymeltzer

I created a page called The TerraMar Project (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rakswami/The_TerraMar_Project), and was told that I didn't have relevant sources/press coverage for it to be published. I went back and found significant press coverage for it, and added the links, and resubmitted it for publishing. But the log now says the page has been deleted. Is this for some sort of copyright violation?

I'm trying to get this page published on behalf of the organisation and I want to explain to them why this happened. Could you please help? Did the entire article violate copyright laws or was it only certain sections? If yes, how and which sections? Also is there any way I can recover the text of my article?

Thanks.

Best Rakshita Rakswami (talk) 07:36, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 May 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #60

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

DC WikiSalon on June 6

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of Thursday, June 6 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 12:02, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

GOCE May drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors May 2013 backlog elimination drive wrap-up newsletter
 

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Have time on Saturday?

I'm sorry for the last-minute notice, but on Saturday, June 8, from 3 to 6 PM, Wikimedia DC and the Cato Institute are hosting a Legislative Data Meetup. We will discuss the work done so far by WikiProject U.S. Federal Government Legislative Data to put data from Congress onto Wikipedia, as well as what more needs to be done. If you have ideas you'd like to contribute, or if you're just curious and feel like meeting up with other Wikipedians, you are welcome to come! Be sure to RSVP here if you're interested.

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Harej (talk) 04:04, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 05 June 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #61

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, June 15!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, June 15 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 19:35, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

20:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 12 June 2013

recover page deleted

Good Morning,

I would like to recover the text deleted in order to edit it. Do you think it would be possible? Im sorry to disturb, but Im new here and Im still learning which info I can or can't put in my article. Thanks so much!!

Have a great Friday! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cathykrier (talkcontribs) 07:51, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:Anne Delong ~ Amory (utc) 14:52, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #62

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Join us this Sunday for the Great American Wiknic!

  Great American Wiknic DC at Meridian Hill Park  
You are invited to the Great American Wiknic DC at the James Buchanan Memorial at Meridian Hill Park. We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the potluck! :)

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Harej (talk) 15:29, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 19 June 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #63

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
  • Discussions
  • Events/Press
  • Did you know?
    • Newest properties: E number (P628), edition of (P629), Paris city digital code (P630), structural engineer (P631), cultural properties of Belarus reference number (P632), Répertoire du patrimoine culturel du Québec identifier (P633), captain (P634), ISTAT ID (P635), route of administration (P636), Protein ID (P637), PDB ID (P638), RNA ID (P639), Léonore ID (P640), sport (P641), of (P642), Genloc Chr (P643), Genloc Start (P644), Genloc End (P645), Freebase identifier (P646), drafted by (P647), Open Library identifier (P648), NRHP (P649), RKDartists (P650), BPN (P651), UNII (P652), PubMed Health (P653), direction relative to location (P654)
  • Development
    • Worked on site-link group editing to make it possible to link to sisterprojects
    • Further work on input validation
    • Further work on handling invalid data gracefully
    • Use Serializers for generating API results
    • Finished selenium tests for TimeUI and CoordinateUI
    • Changed globe coordinate value input to use backend coordinate parser
    • Fixed issues with data type definitions not being available in the frontend
    • Wrote a little hack so that on statements with a long list of values you will always be able to see the name of the property of the current section you are in (since the label moves when scrolling the page)
  • Open Tasks for You

18:03, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

GOCE June/July 2013 events

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive wrap-up newsletter
 

We have completed our June blitz and are about to commence our July backlog elimination drive.

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The Signpost: 26 June 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #64

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

14:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q2 2013

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter
Volume 6, No. 2 — 2nd Quarter, 2013
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The Signpost: 03 July 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #65

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, July 13!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, July 13 at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 00:09, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

18:28, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

You're Invited: Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon at the Smithsonian

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American Art Museum
Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon at the
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You're invited to the Luce and Lunder Edit-a-thon, part of a series of edit-a-thons organized by the Smithsonian American Art Museum to add and expand articles about American art and artists on Wikipedia.

This event will include a catered lunch and special tours of the Luce Foundation Center for American Art and the Lunder Conservation Center at the Smithsonian American Art Museum.

9:15 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. on Friday, July 19, 2013
Smithsonian American Art Museum
Meet at G Street Lobby (9th St. & G St. NW, Washington, D.C.)

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Luce Foundation Center

The Signpost: 10 July 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #66

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

17:28, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 July 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #67

 
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

20:58, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

GOCE July 2013 news report

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter
 
  • Participation: Out of 30 people who have signed up for this drive so far, 18 have participated. If you have signed up for the drive but have not yet participated, it isn't too late. If you haven't signed up for the drive, sign up now!
 
  • Progress report: Thus far we have reduced the number of May/June 2012 articles to just 124 articles, so we're on the right track. Unfortunately, for the first time in GOCE history, the number of articles in the backlog has actually gone up during this drive. While all participants are currently doing a fine job, we just don't have as many of them as we have had in the past. We have over 500 editors on our mailing list, but only 18 editors who have done a copy edit for the drive. If you're receiving this newsletter, it's because you have an interest in copy editing. Join the drive! Even if you only copy edit one article, it helps. Imagine how much progress we could make if everyone chipped in just one article.

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The Signpost: 24 July 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #68

20:38, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 July 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #69

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, August 24!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, August 24 at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 03:50, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #70

The Signpost: 07 August 2013

account problem

hello, can you please help me ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vacezmaj (talkcontribs) 18:14, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

GOCE July 2013 copy edit drive wrap-up

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive wrap-up newsletter
 

We have completed our July backlog elimination drive.

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The Signpost: 14 August 2013

Wikidata weekly summary #71

Are you free on Wednesday? Join us at the Wikimedia DC WikiSalon!

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of Wednesday, August 24 at our K Street office.

The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.

We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 11:25, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

STiki emergency

Wikidata weekly summary #72

Meet up with local Wikipedians on September 14!

Are you free on Saturday, September 14? If so, please join Wikimedia DC and local Wikipedians for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) at 6:00 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages are welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please visit the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 18:42, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

19:49, 25 August 2013 (UTC)