User talk:Anandks007/Archive 2

Serving in Iraq

Hey there, saw your comments on my talk page. Sorry I haven't been on Wikipedia for the better part of a year! Yeah, I really did serve in Iraq. End of '05 through most of '06. I got back in November. Hehe, I guess I fulfilled the 'martial' part of being a Nair by joining the army :). --vi5in^[talk] 19:36, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Rawal Badrinath.jpg

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November 2009

Your addition to Invasion of Kerala by Hyder Ali and Tipu has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Abecedare (talk) 07:06, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Your addition to Travancore-Mysore War has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Abecedare (talk) 07:30, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Note The other two articles you created:

• First Travancore-Mysore War
• Second Travancore-Mysore War

were found to be copyright violations too and have been deleted. Note that if you paste any more copyrighted content on wikipedia, you are likely to be blocked indefinitely. Abecedare (talk) 07:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Request

Hi Anand, I'd like to know more about you. I'm also involved in wiki activities; Is it possible to have your email ? Regards Rajkris (talk) 22:20, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Anand, I received your email. I'll soon send you an email. Someone has deleted the chapter Dutiful Warrior, i added it back but there is pb in the page layout. Please have a look.Rajkris (talk) 02:27, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Just saw your message. Unfortunately my comp doesnt read malayalam text and also I cant read malayalam anyway. So I didnt get your question. Regards Manu rocks (talk) 14:49, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

No no I dont stay in Kerala Manu rocks (talk) 10:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Are Cheras really Nāgas

Hi there is certain ambiguity regarding cheras being nagas. Since the ezhava page claims they are founders of chera dynasty and were villavars or something like that. Some claim Cheras are of Tamil origin related to Cholas or Pallava and maybe Thevar/Vellala.and another thing in the nagavanshi page you linked naga people instead of Nāgas of hindu mythology,naga people of north east are tribal austroloid and they have nothing to do with serpent people mentioned in hindu mythology.i corrected that error.anyways adding the cheras as Nāgas will create a lot of controversy.Linguisticgeek (talk) 05:48, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

The Ezhava claim is laughable. Villavar means "one who fights with bow and arrow" and is by no means related to Thevar/Vellala/Ezhava (These castes came in to existence many many centuries after the disintegration of the Chera Empire). Chola and Pallava were Tamils and Cheras were different from them. The reference I had given (Nagas, the ancient rulers of India: their origin and history by Naval Viyogi) clearly states that the Cheras are part of the Naga dynasty and Chera Kingdom "have been the largest centre of the abode of Naga race". This is upto 500 A.D. After that clans might have got extinct or assimilated. But currently the only race claiming Naga ancestry in the South are the Nayars. Axxn (talk) 05:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I do not doubt nairs are nagas,The Nairs and their related communities are ethnically very different from most south indian communities.But if you observe history carefully the first mention of nairs in kerala is towards the end of the chera period.i.e 9th century.The first dynsty in south india that really has naga origin are the kadambas of karnataka(kadamba is still a surname among the bunts)Kadambas are credited with settling Nagavanshis and Brahmins(Nambis) from achichatram so it is my personal opinion that the nagas first settled in coastal karnataka established their kingdom and then some nagas proceded southwards and conquered kerala.late the naga empires of the area what is called parashuram kshetra became subordinate to the vijayangara rule and the nagas(both nair and bunts) were generals in the vijayanagara time until well one Bunt general Tuluva narasa nayaka captured power and lay the foundations of the most powerful nagavanshi dynasty that controlled whole of the south.I am not sure,History in india is not properly documented.If you have ever been to hampi you will be astonished to see the sheer number of serpent shrines as well as serpent images carved on the temples.These are mostly from the rule of time of the Tuluva Dynasty(nagavanshis).Anyways Nagavanshis have also refused to accept brahmin supremacy in religious matters therefore brahmins esp the nambis did not accept nagas as legitimate rulers and many of samantha kshatriyas were blackmailed into going through the hiranyagarbha ritual so that they can be chandravanshi though they really are nagas.another fact that needs to be mentioned about nagas is that malayalam separated from tamil around the same time when nagas invaded kerala.though this theory is not widely accepted and i don't think it is wikipedia material,but linguistic changes in a region is mostly attributed to outsiders(in this case nagavanshis in kerala)Linguisticgeek (talk) 06:38, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

OK. Understood. So what are the changes you are proposing to the article? Axxn (talk) 06:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Nagavanshis first settled in south to establish the kadamba kingdom then proceded towards kerala and maybe initially served as warriors first unders the cheras and later when the chera kingdom fell they rose to prominence establishing their own small kingdoms in different parts of kerala.Cheras were a royal family and had nothing to do with any community is my opinion.they might have mixed origins i believe they were most likely to be Thevar/Vellala origin who might have integrated with the neighbouring nagas of the kadamba kingdom.see this period in kerala history is not properly known. i have read a lot of works but all are not very clear about who the cheras really were.apart from snake chera also means coconut in older dialects of Tamil and is very much related to the word kera.Your version that the cheras were pure nagas is not correct though the ezhava origin is as you said really laughable.ezhava were always a community of servants who served the ruling clans and warriors in kerala and were brought from sri lanka to serve the nairs,bunts and Thevar/Vellala rulers before.though nowadays who can't say this in kerala or in karnataka.Linguisticgeek (talk) 07:07, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Samanta Kshatriya

Hi,Anand and firstly A very happy new year.secondly i just cleaned up the intro of the samanta kshatriya page and instead of refering to Samantas also known as malayala kshatriya,i changed it to highest order of malayala kshatriya(is that ok).secondly if you do have time could you please look in the article Kingdom of Cochin,the article i think has been a little messed up a certain user called Vilmeenkodi,he was even messing up the malayalam language page by adding unsourced statements.i reverted those edits.i am not editing the cochin article is because i myself do not have a lot of info about the cochin kingdom.can you refer some good books which are exclusively related to cochin kingdom(if you know that is, i am searching too)Linguisticgeek (talk) 09:39, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Would You care to reply? Linguisticgeek (talk) 11:37, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Madras Regiment

Hi Anand. Happy New Year 2010. It seems someone has removed nair from this wiki page.Rajkris (talk) 19:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi Anand, Chola yadava has again vandalized this page.Rajkris (talk) 16:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Kshatriya Wiki Page

Hi Anand. Hers is one of my pb: some vandals from vanniyar caste are continuously vandalizing this page (see their last one through history page). I don't know what to do. Do you have any suggestion?... Is it possible to restrict access to this page to only users who have an account ? Thanks.Rajkris (talk) 19:45, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

FC

A vandal named ikonoblast is trying to destroy the FC article. He tried two times (2007 & 2009) to delete it, but his intentions were exposed by other users. See his latest attempt to get the article destroyed here. 122.177.218.88 (talk) 11:57, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

IP 122.177.218.88 is right. It seems ikonoblast belongs to the yadava caste and is a stong supporter of Laloo Prasad Yadav and Mulayalam Singh Yadav. I noticed he has removed many sentences, articles, references (...) which tell bad about them (see his talkpage). It even seems that he has managed to block someone who denounced his POV articles on Laloo & Mulayalam. Beware of him, he's dangerous!...90.46.215.187 (talk) 17:49, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Madras regiment.

This is how the madras regiment came into existence. please correct it. dont promote your own interests.

In 1748 Major Stringer Lawrence, a veteran of action in Spain, Flanders and the Highlands, was hired by the East India Comp-any to take charge of the defence of Cuddalore. He laid the foundations of what was to become the Indian Army. Training the levies to become a militia, the Madras Levies were formed into "companies" and trained to become a disciplined and fine fighting force. In 1758 Lawrence raised the Madras Regiment, forming the several Companies of Madras Levies into two battalions. 2 Madras was raised in 1776 as 15 Carnatic Infantry at Thanjavur [and underwent many nomenclature changes thereafter]. The Madras Regiment, grown to 52 battalions by 1826, has a glorious record, interrupted between 1928 and 1941 when it was disbanded by local officials who favoured the Punjabi, Dogra and Gurkha troops of the northwest Raj. The needs of World War II caused the resurrection of the Regiment.

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Units/Infantry/101-Madras.html ( this is the official indian army site ).

If you are not willing to correct it then I will take this dispute to the editor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.69.52 (talk) 18:08, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Peacock usages

Kindly keep the article such as Nambiar, menon and Samanthan Nair devoid of peacock terms and adequately referenced when you choose to revert from an earlier referenced version —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanam001 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

FACTS about Peacock items

1. Fawcett, Edgar thurston all agree that menon is a dignified royal scribe. The Akattu charna nayar is some what “middle class” in the nair ranking system.

2. Male members of cochin royal family engaged in sambandham unions with Nayar women of Kerala and is not restricted to those dignified as menon alone. So only individual cases of such unions with menons existed . So this claim that it is “only” to menon women is bogus. If you have any source that it was restricted to menons you must cite it in the article.

3. Paliath Govindan Achan (and not Govinda menon) was the last Paliath Achan to occupy the position of Prime Minister in the Kingdom of Cochin until 1825. Infact Nadavarambu Kunhikrishna Menon who succeded Paliath Givindachan was a rival of the Paliam family. Paliath Govindan achan was imprisoned and later died in 1832 in Benares. Diwans of Cochin Thottakkat Govinda Menon (son of Sankunni Warrier) and later his brother of Thottakkat Sankunni Menon were all appointees to the office of Diwan of cochin after the hereditary prime minister ship of the Paliam family to cochin was abolished by the Raja of Cochin and did not belong to the Paliam family.So donot confuse between paliath Govindan achan and Thottakkat Govinda Menon. Inspite of these historical facts if you have statements in a historical document that Paliam family was a menon family then you should cite it in the article otherwise the claim is bogus.

So i am reverting the article to keep it accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanam001 (talk • contribs) 12:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

NPOVReversal refusing Discussion

The menon article has peacock terms without citation as described in the discussion section of the article. The article has been modified by me several times with appropriate citation and during these i have mentioned the reasons. However inspite of this you seem to be reverting or undoing to an older version that has inadequate citation and prolofic peacock claims.I am therefore reverting it to the properly referenced version without peacock terms. I encourage you to participate in a discussion and not to revert to inadequately cited older version. Such repeated reversals by you to older version of the article which is inadequately referenced and has peacock terms amounts to edit war. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanam001 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

User Jack.Able & Zero.vishnu Sockpuppet

Hi Anand, I've noticed that these 2 users are the same:I noticed that through one of his IP (161.139.195.17) he used to remove the word Kshatriya in the mukkulathor wiki page; I checked all his contributions with this IP (Talk:Mukkulathor ‎ (→Kshatriya) & Talk:Kshatriya ‎ (→Nair)) and we can see that sentences wrote by this IP are now signed by either Jack.Able or [Zero.vishnu]]. But I don't know whether i declared it correctly, can you please check: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Jack.Able. Thanks.Rajkris (talk) 11:25, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry i did not give you the infos correctly; see: I noticed that through one of his IP (161.139.195.17) he used to remove the word Kshatriya in the mukkulathor wiki page; I checked all his contributions with this IP (Talk:Mukkulathor ‎ (→Kshatriya) & Talk:Kshatriya ‎ (→Nair)) and we can see that sentences wrote by this IP are now signed by either Jack.Able or Zero.vishnu. If you check carefully you can see. They also employ they same type of sentences, often talking about the so called Aryan Features...Rajkris (talk) 13:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Anyway, can you please check whether I have done my request correctly ? Thanks.Rajkris (talk) 13:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.Rajkris (talk) 16:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi Anand. I was right. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Zero.vishnu/Archive. But nothing bad happened to him. They just told it is an alternate account and precised it. Really strange... In my opinion, this guy is dangerous; he's promoting racial, community hatred. Be careful with him.Rajkris (talk) 00:04, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok.Rajkris (talk) 00:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

NPOVRepeated Reversal refusing Discussion by Anandks007

The menon article has peacock terms without citation as described in the discussion section of the article. The article has been modified by me several times with appropriate citation and during these i have mentioned the reasons. However inspite of this you (Anandks007) seem to be reverting or undoing to an older version that has inadequate citation and prolofic peacock claims.I am therefore reverting it to the properly referenced version without peacock terms. I encourage you to participate in a discussion and not to revert to inadequately cited older version. Such repeated reversals by you to older version of the article which is inadequately referenced and has peacock terms amounts to edit war to satisfy your own ego requirements rather than keeping anthropological fidelity of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanam001 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Why ...

... did you remove your own comment [1]? Tomeasy _{T C} 19:22, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

OK. First learn some manners and stop personally attacking me and my family. Then I can clear your doubt. Axxn (talk) 11:06, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Do you understand this request for a reliable reference as an attack on your family? I found your statement rather an attack on the people you call impure Sudras.

Provide a source for your claim that "impure Sudras [...] pollute Brahmins with their touch". Otherwise, would I be wrong assuming that it is simply based on (misguided) traditions? Tomeasy _{T C} 12:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't care. Axxn (talk) 12:45, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, then please stop harming Wikipedia's reputation with infamous attacks on people that you consider impure. Tomeasy _{T C} 12:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I am not attacking anyone. See this. Axxn (talk) 12:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

To say that "impure Sudras [...] pollute Brahmins with their touch" is certainly insulting to Shudras, don't you think so?

If you find a book with such statements, doesn't make it less insulting. apart from that, did you realize that the book you cited simply describes habits. It does not - in contrast to you - claim that these habits are based on facts. There is a difference in saying "Brahmins believed that Shudras' touch may pollute them" and the claim that you made.

I think the question here really is: Do you believe that "impure" Shudras pollute Brahmins with their touch, or not? If not, I would drop it here. Tomeasy _{T C} 13:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

It seems to me that you have no interest in rectifying your outrages claim that "impure Shudras pollute Brahmins with their touch". Please consider that I am prepared to initiate administrative measures, if you continue to uphold this position. Wikipedia is not the place for such blatant insults. Let me know if everything was just a misunderstanding! Tomeasy _{T C} 08:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

3RR

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. NJA (t/c) 08:23, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I see your 3RR report at WP:AN3, and I wish to point out that in actualitiy you are the one in clear violation of 3RR, not the person you reported. May I suggest you stop reverting and use talk page to reach consensus before making the edits. Disputes only can happen with two or more people, thus sort it through discussion or you will end up blocked. NJA (t/c) 08:23, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Understand about nayars without sub-clan prejudice

Reference-1 Changing Kinship Usages in the Setting of Political and Economic Change Among the Nayars of Malabar E. Kathleen Gough http://www.jstor.org/stable/2844041 In essence nobody refutes that the ruling elite of nads were higher sub-divisions of nairs or Samantha Kshatriya who derive their ancestry from sudra stock. However it is the proportion of nayars that were ruling elite and nayars that had other professions that is the issue to be considered while framing a definition for nayars. Nayars professed wide variety of professions.To be precise, what K.Glough notes is that not much is known about the traditional kinship among servant classes of nayars and not that they are not recognized as Nayars. Also kindly read properly maintaining your objectivity and not taking things too personal . See page 2 para 1 on left where she gives the distribution frequency of nayar profession based sub-clans in a representative proportion. Now you will understand that the proportion of lineages that are retainers , oil-mongerers , pot makers or funeral priests are in proportions higher than the chiefly lineages and that mutual ritual ranking between is clear (not unequivocal) . Reference -2 The Internal Structure of the Nayar Caste, CJ Fuller “eighteen Nayar subdivisions are listed (with their traditional occupations) in order of rank……………………” Akattu charna nayars (clerks, domestics and scribes) , Urali nayars (masons) , Pallichan (palanquin bearer), Chembu-kotti (copper-smith), Chakkala nayar, Vattakadu nayar (oil mongerer), Vilakkithala nayar (barber), Veluthedathu nair (Washer-man), Attikurisssi nayar (funeral priests) are all nayar castes only different in their ritualistic ranking from the ruling elite or mercenary/soldier ranks. Do not overlook these professional divisions and ego-based claim that all nayars are ruling elite. It is anthropologically and historically incorrect. Kindly read documents and research articles more objectively. Again you seem to be ignorant about NSS. Although many divisions of nayars are lower ritual rank , the NSS also accepts them as nayars. You can contact the following members of NSS. Sri.P.V.Neelakanta Pillai, Advocate President Nalanda, Kottiyode, Attingla-P.O., Thiruvananthapuram District. Phone 0470-2622368 (Residence), 0470-2622248 (Office) Narayana Panicker.P.K., General Secretary Lekshmyvilas Bunglow, Vazhappally, Changanassery. Phone:0481-24220330 (Residence), 0481-2410566 (Office) 3. In essence, nayars used to profess a wide variety of professions and requires that this fact is emcompassed to keep the primary description generic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanam001 (talk • contribs) 09:42, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Ananks007 involved in ego-satisfying vandalism

You have been engaged in reverting improved articles in several section to inadequately referenced and ego satisfying versions of the article. Wikipedia is a common knowledge base were information regarding communities has to be based on research articles of social scientists . Kindly strive towards it and engage in scientific discussions rather that engaging in edit wards which are directed against specific users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanam001 (talk • contribs) 12:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't have any problem if you make edits after reaching a consensus on the talk page. You are the one who is doing vandalism without any discussion. Axxn (talk) 12:18, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

February 2010

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours to prevent further disruption caused by your engagement in an edit war. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. NJA (t/c) 12:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Notes: Even after my warning at WP:AN3 three hours earlier (and this on your talk page) not to continue, you've had at least 13 reverts on various articles in the last 24 hours:

• Seven reverts on Nair
• Two reverts on Thampan
• One revert on Thirumulpad
• Three reverts on Menon (Nair subcaste).

Further, you've abused WP:ROLLBACK by using it in multiple edit wars. Any further misuse of rollback will likely result in its removal from your account, and it may still result in removal should another administrator see the recent abuse and decide you cannot be trusted with it. NJA (t/c) 12:42, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

OK. I will wait for 31 hours. But what should I do if further edit war occurs? "first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus" is not being followed here. Axxn (talk) 12:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

If you follow the the guidance WP:DR step-by-step, it instructs you how to deal with disputes that cannot be resolved through simple discussion. You would be wise to not engage in further edit wars as blocks will only increase in length. Also, I've looked over your use of WP:ROLLBACK, and only a few of the edits you used it on were obvious vandalism. Please ensure you use 'undo' for normal reverts, and not rollback, otherwise you will lose the tool. NJA (t/c) 12:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

OK. I will use undo for normal reverts. I was a little bit confused about the limitations of WP:ROLLBACK. Axxn (talk) 12:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

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Revert

Hi Anand, do you know how to revert the actual version to an older one (i don't mean the last one). Thanks.Rajkris (talk) 18:05, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

format

hi, anand saw ur message problem sorted i guess sanam sockpuupet.anyways have a look at theBunt article.it's format repeatedly changed against wiki policy is there anyway to stop this.also won't be on wikipedia for quite sometime hope to work on Samanta Kshatriya and Cochin Royal Familythese articles are complete mess have a look at them as well and if u have any info on cochin royal family please share.Linguisticgeek (talk) 06:51, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Anand. I'm aware of this. I also have other refs. But for the moment i will not do any changes, I'm very busy and we have more important things to do in wiki pages like Kshatriya. But sure, the early history of India has yet to be written in a proper way. Velir also claim yadu lineage (see Vellalar). I have a pb in the aryan wiki page. Can you give me a help. Thanks.Rajkris (talk) 12:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Suresh Varma claim on Kshatriya talk page

Wonderful job!... All my congratulations.Rajkris (talk) 17:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, my friend. Axxn (talk) 18:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

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Kshatriya page

Hi Anand, 1) I would like to replace the Krishna/Radha picture by this one [2] (much more beautiful & more significant) but I don't know how to do. 2) I think it is time to delete from this page unreferenced castes. What do you think ?Rajkris (talk) 16:03, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

To you

Saw your comments. You first read what I wrote there. Then argue with me. Suresh.Varma.123 (talk) 11:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

March 2010

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring on Malayala Sudra. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I am not contesting my block, as I know the rules and policies of wikipedia. I just want to state that I am editing wikipedia for the last 5 years and my reputation is getting spoiled for the first time due to factors beyond my control. Axxn (talk) 16:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit warring is always in your control. I understand and sympathize with your explanation on WP:ANI, but edit warring is not the way to resolve the problem. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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Fair use images can't be used again on wikipedia.devan nair sukumaran etc.hence deletion.Linguisticgeek (talk) 10:48, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Done

I have added the image. Exactly what was the problem you were facing? Check your system for trojans. Suresh.Varma.123 (talk) 06:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Axxn (talk) 07:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Nair article

Let us give the details such as classificationof nair in separate section. Let the article be readable with. The first sentence itself was a mess - a biased one. Why are you reverting without any discussion? There are many sub-sects in Nairs which are not Khshathriyas. So a separate section is needed distinguishing this. It is necessary for the article to be neutral. If you are so curious with the purity of the artile read the Etymology section. From months it says in its very first sentence that "The word Nair lends itself to two etymological interpretations". But only one interpretation is given there.Where is the second one?. The second was there very long back. But the majority kshathriya-biased nair wikipedians removed it. However they forget to remove the first sentence of this section. The article is totally biased with inappropriate sections. A complete clean-up is required. The term "Malayala Kshathriya" surprised me a lot. Have you heard any where in kerala such a term in common use? Snnair (talk) 06:18, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Dear anand make a discussion first. I admit "Nairs are Kshatriyas". But you atleast show the minimum courage of a Kshatriya. If you only want to establish "Nairs are Kshatriyas" change the entire article and type only Nairs are Kshatriyas. What about the second part I have told here.. about the etymology? I feel shame on you. Snnair (talk) 06:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I just left {{uw-3rr}} at User talk:Snnair and want to mention here that it is not clear to an uninformed onlooker (such as myself) that the issue you are reverting really is vandalism. I am not confident that the exceptions at WP:EW apply. Johnuniq (talk) 07:15, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Dear Aanand, I am user Snnair. I write this only because you are mistaken (Afterall the entire life is a collection of mistakes). I am nithar an Ezhava nor the user referred by you people as user X. I edited this article because I had my own genuine reasons. I have no relation with user X. I also noticed the edits by the person whom you are referring as user X. Dont think that I am the same person. Anyhow, now I am using my account with sir name Nair. because I found no alternative use for this sir name. It neither helps me for my livelyhood nor for my status in society. So why should I claim to be a Kshatriya. Let the user X take your comments. I am not that user. Still I wish to ask to repeat some of my questions. What about the correction in "Etymology" part? Shall we continue it like this? Is the terminology "Malayala Kshtriya" a genuine one? I feel my self ashamed. Let me remain as a nair (But I wish to say truth). (Does Kshathriya Kshema Sabha took over the charge of Nair Service Soiciety? or Is NSS a subdivision of Kshatriya Kshema Sabha.. Pleas answer? Thank you for your comments. Snnair (talk) 07:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Birth rate and fertility rate in Australia

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Hoad adittion on wikipedia

please have a look at this users edit Tej smiles (talk.he seems to be adding a australoid negroid community of namadhari naik in the nagavanshi and indo-scyhtina list.without any citation and is now invovled in a an edit war.Linguisticgeek (talk) 15:02, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

please have a look at namadhari naik page a proto australoid community claiming scythian status.edits by user Tej smiles and now i have been issued a three page revert warning.Linguisticgeek (talk) 15:05, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

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Photo

Hi, i uploaded some photos from Edgar Thurston's book

• Nair women
• Jewels worn by nair
• akkathu charna nair

Think atleast one of the images can be used on main article.mail me the response through email.also have you recieved the msg i sent through wikimail which you told me to ? Linguisticgeek (talk) 07:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Happy Onam

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Speedy deletion nomination of Deutsche Nationalkreis Asowo

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Need help

Wotcher,

The articles related (esp. Chera dynasty) are being destroyed by a user, please help me to make it as before. (Rameez pp (talk) 11:51, 26 April 2011 (UTC)).

I have reverted to older version. Please use the talk page. Axxn (talk) 12:05, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Use discuss page

Please see discuss page in Chera Dynasty article :) Konguboy (talk) 17:51, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Also happy to know you are a "ji" like me ;) Konguboy (talk) 08:38, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I have sent you one wikimail. Please keep in touch. Shannon1488 (talk) 17:17, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Nair ceremonies and customs

I am removing huge chunks from Nair ceremonies and customs, an article that you created in 2009. I think that you may have done this as an unattributed fork from Nair but, in any event, right from the outset the article contained massive chunks which violated copyright and which were (and remain) uncited. My suspicion is that there will not be much left of it by the time I have finished, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 11:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Nair

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Can we improve the article Zamorin by adding more citation, and by an over-all coordination? This article also need an expert on the subject. Rameez pp (talk) 06:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

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