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Please note that all the sources you are adding to the ASM article are what Wikipedia terms primary sources... in other words, they are related to or provided by the artist themselves, which aren't considered acceptable sources for Wikipedia articles as they may introduce bias, and also they do not demonstrate notability because it doesn't prove that anybody outside of the band has taken any notice of them. Blogs aren't acceptable either, because there is no editorial control. Please see WP:RS – acceptable sources would be established published newspapers, music magazines, etc. with journalistic backgrounds. If you can't provide this, then the article may be nominated for deletion, as you cannot show that the band meets the notability requirements at WP:BAND. Thank you. Richard3120 (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm aware of that, but since there's nothing controversial about this band I don't see any problems with primary sources, to be honest. There are no analyses and overall nothing that really needs to be verifiable. There are articles about them, but in French and German. I know, the rules are like that, but in some cases it's not easy to fulfil them. Please pardon my English, I'm foreign. --AndersenAnders (talk) 12:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if the information is true or if it is not controversial – what is important is that the subject has to be notable, per WP:N. And that means there have to be independent and impartial sources, not primary sources. It is not a problem if the sources are in French, German, Arabic, Chinese or any other language – the problem is that these sources do not meet WP:RS. Limonadier is a blog, and also it's an interview with the artist, talking about themselves, so it's not impartial. The German source is just a concert hall – playing a concert doesn't make a musician notable, every musician plays live concerts. Richard3120 (talk) 14:56, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Well then go on, delete every article of any artist that isn't noted in any important newspaper, if you think this is how wikipedia should work. Why would you think an artist istn't notable just because he or she is not that famous? ASM is a group since 2007, they have played more than 600 shows in 25 countries, and still they aren't important enough for wiki? Is this supposed to be a VIP club for super famous artist or what? I know you didn't invent those rules, but couldn't you just let it be? Do you think wiki shouldn't be a platform that provides as much information as possible for as many artists, even independent ones, as possible? Not just for the artists everybody already knows?--AndersenAnders (talk) 19:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't understand your point at all. I have let it be, I haven't tried to delete the article at all... I'm just letting you know that at present the article does not pass WP:N, and there is every possibility that some editor in the future will nominate it for deletion if it isn't improved with reliable sources. Of course Wikipedia should provide information on less famous artists, provided that information is from reliable independent sources – that's the only thing I'm stating here, which isn't what I personally think, it's just the fundamental basis for Wikipedia. Richard3120 (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Ok, sorry, I terribly misunderstood you, my apologiese.--AndersenAnders (talk) 19:56, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hallo, a human here. I've reviewed the article. It is well-cited and comprehensive but it's quite discursive and difficult to read, so I suspect it will take quite a bit of work to bring it up to GA standard. I'm happy to work with you to help get it there. Let me know what you plan to do with it and what sort of timescale you have in mind, and we can work something out. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:14, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for taking it up. In principle, I am willing to invest a good deal of time into the article, as I have done already (it is mostly my work). However, I expect the coming weeks to be relatively busy for me. In your experience, how long do you estimate it would take? And could you elaborate on what you would change specifically (as an overview)? Many thanks AndersenAnders (talk) 15:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I didn't see your review until now. I will go through them and get back to you. AndersenAnders (talk) 15:16, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, I don't think we can sensibly list all the sections in each region - and the regions are well-defined - in an image caption. I suggest you list them in "efn" footnotes to the image caption, i.e. like this: [[File:.....|thumb|... North America{{efn|The North American sections are A, B, C, D, and E.}}, Europe{{efn|The European sections are F, G, H, I, J, and K.}}, ... etc.]] That way the caption remains manageably short and interested readers can get a quick overview with one click. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea. Will do as soon as I can AndersenAnders (talk) 13:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I've created in-place templates for them and filled out a couple. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:48, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Looks good, thanks. AndersenAnders (talk) 13:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I have filled out the other templates, largely after this graphic. There was also the issue with the New World/Old World clades, which is true evolutionary speaking but might cause confusion as Quercus and Ponticae occur in both spheres. AndersenAnders (talk) 13:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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