Andrew Alexander
Andrew, you have my sincere gratitude for doing so much in recent days to protect the Holodomor article from malicious vandals. The Ukrainian famine came to my attention after I began researching the Irish potato famine during the mid-1800s. The events that occurring during both are strikingly similiar as well as equally depressing, though vital aspects of the history of both peoples.
I will continue to improve Holodomor as time permits, and hope to see more of your presence there, despite the opinions of some admins who have recently chosen to adhere to rules rather than good sense in judging the events that led to your need to revert the article back to factual content. You are fighting a good fight. Again, thank you for helping Wikipedia provide fact-based data whilst faced with opposition from self-important rule-mongers.
→ P.MacUidhir (t) (c) 10:35, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Pádraic, thanks for a kind note. I would like to see more of your contributions to Ukraine-related articles, which right now mostly lack quality and independent views.--Andrew Alexander 19:45, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Andrew -- I respect the effort you put into the Holodomor article. At the same time I think you would really do yourself, the article, and some people who are actually sympathetic to your approach a favour by being less offensive sometimes. Your insistence on the topic has made me learn something new, however, such as the definition of genocide including attempts not only to eliminate an ethnic group as a whole, but also 'only' in part. What I think SHOULD be made clear in the article that the Holodomor was at least in part a sociocide, targetted at a social class -- to limit it to genocide would, in my opinion, fail to draw attention to the unique nature of the Soviet regime in this regard. Maybe something can be more than one thing? Do you think it would be historically correct to classify the Holodomor as both a genocide and a sociocide? I think this may be a pretty good reflection of the facts. After all, the official policy of the Soviets was sociocidal, based on Marxist-Leninist ideology. Furthermore, the destruction of those years was not limited to the Ukrainians -- even though they may have been hit the hardest --, but also included the elimination of the independent herder of Kazakhstan.
- Again, I respect your intentions, though I think it would be much more productive if you were a little more agreeable at times:)
- It's nice to see that there are more people out there who are as offended as I am by the Soviet apologists.
- Keep it up. Dietwald 10:40, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
I agree with your comments on Stalin. let me know when you need my help. Mikka is now blocked for 3RR to Anti-Romanian page. Bonaparte talk 20:05, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks.--Andrew Alexander 04:20, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Bonaparte talk 07:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Warning
editPlease do not revert the Holodomor article again. WP:3RR is a limit, not an entitlement - you can be blocked for disruption for a single revert if you know in advance that it is contentious. I am sure that what you want to add is well-sourced, but the tone is not as neutral as the tone of Irpen's last version. Please work from that basis and try to avoid advocacy. Thanks. Just zis Guy you know? 16:36, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
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Move to Kyiv
editHello,
I am trying to change the name of the page Kiev to Kyiv. Looking through the archives, I saw that you had contributed to a similar discussion in the past.
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"Ukrainian Genocide" listed at Redirects for discussion
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