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DYK Nom

Hi. I've nominated Ernest Brooks (photographer), an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. Smallman12q (talk) 19:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC) Thanks, Smallman12q (talk) 19:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Alex Devine

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Mark Formosa ineligible for proposed deletion

Greetings. I fixed the {{prod}} tag you intended to leave on Mark Formosa. I then removed it because the article has already been deleted via the WP:PROD process. The recreation is effectively a contested prod. To nominate the article for deletion, follow the steps at WP:AFD. —C.Fred (talk) 18:38, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

You are quite right that being a prospective political candidate does not warrant a page and that they are deleted. I fully support you if you choose to use W:AFD deletion steps.--Milk76 (talk) 23:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Ernest Brooks (photographer)

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Medal images

THANKS! That's brilliant. I played round for ages trying to figure out how to do it, but I'm a bit inept when it comes to computers. Thanks for taking the time to help me out. I just need to finish the article now... Gwinva (talk) 22:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of John Heriot (journalist)

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GAN STS-8

What do we do with that? As I remember it only needed a little more work. Sooner or later I'll be pushed to decide. Materialscientist (talk) 05:27, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Stanley Green

I was thinking about putting it up for FA, because it does seem to exhaust the sources on the subject. I'll take another look through it, and if there's too much work still to do for FA, perhaps you could consider GA? SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 01:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I might live to regret it, but see here. Thanks for reminding me. I had been meaning to do this for some time, but I'd completely forgotten it. SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 02:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

That would be great, thank you. :) SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 11:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for John Heriot (journalist)

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DYK for Empty Dwelling Management Orders

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Greetings and thanks?

Greetings Shimgray. Don't know where we may have crossed swords our paths may have crossed, but I've just seen a weird movement on my watchlist which has your signature on it. Although I'm not quite sure what it entails, I shall try to bear it with dignity - as long as it doesn't mean wearing one of those daft barnstars... Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 17:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for explanation. Great! So this means I can now start articles on each and every single Pókemon character? Oh no, they've all been done... No sweat, I'll think of summat. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 19:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

DEWP edit graph

Thanks, I've added it to the data list. Hut 8.5 08:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mercury-Atlas 8

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DYK for Mercury-Atlas 8

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— Jake Wartenberg 11:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

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18th VGD

Hello my name is Steve Stange, aka Zt692 who posted on the site for the 18th Volksgrenadier Division. I am new to this so my understanding of Wikipedia editing is rudimentary. All Volksgrendier Divisions in WWII were tactically attached and detached to Heer units, and directly subordinated to the Reichsfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler. I am in the process of writing the unit history of the 18th and included in that work will be quite a lot of general material on the Volksgrenadier divisions. I appreciate any feedback you may feel free to give me.
This is exactly one of the very subjects I will tackle in my book, the desire to create a 'Heer' divisional unit based upon much of the selection criteria and leadership subordination used for the SS, and the actual reality on the ground and why this effort fell short in the final months of the war.

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zt692 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC) 

Stephen Eyre

Hi there. I noticed that you had proposed this article for deletion recently. I agree that he's non-notable, but I have already proposed it for deletion in the past, and been rejected (see [1]), and an article cannot be proposed for deletion more than once. I have instead taken it to Articles for deletion; your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephen Eyre. Robofish (talk) 22:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan to me; we've got too many of these articles, and I've been meaning to address the problem for a long time. In fact, I've just found another one I think is non-notable, and have nominated it for deletion; your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jody Dunn (2nd nomination). Robofish (talk) 22:57, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Put me foot in it...

Greetings Shimgray - sorry to hassle you but you mentioned that if I had any doubts re. marking as patrolled you'd be happy to respond, so here goes: I recently created a new article (Edward Malefakis) and while over at New pages saw that it was marked as unpatrolled. Out of curiosity I clicked it and saw that it got marked as patrolled. That is when a doubt set in and I headed off to read through the guidelines again. And yes, there it clearly states that an editor cannot mark etc., etc. What's my next step? Will I get struck off for trying to game the system? Is there a bot that will revert my marking? On tenterhooks. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 14:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - sigh of relief! --Technopat (talk) 18:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC) PS. I understand now why you winked in your original message - I was already spending a worrying amount of time editing Wikipedia, and while it hasn't quite yet doubled...

DYK nomination of Battle of San Marino

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STS-8 revert

I just reverted your recent change to the STS-8 article, and I figured that I should actually come here to your talk page and mention something about doing so, rather then simply leaving an edit summary about it. The primary reason that I've reverted is simply based on the fact that all (well, all that I've really looked at) of the STS pages include the wake up calls (actually, I just looked and STS-7 doesn't have a section, but STS-41-B does). The songs that are used, as well as the fact that NASA has this tradition, is widely reported by third party sources, and has been going back to the Gemini program. Those are the policy/fact reasons I can give for the revert, but on a more er... personal level(?) I wouldn't have even looked at the edit because I recognize your user name, and I know that you know all of the above. The edit summary: "this section is really quite trivial - I don't think it adds anything at all to the article or provides any information for the reader" just grabbed at my attention though, and made me say "huh? what's going on here?". I'll give you this much, the wake up calls section on that page needs (at least formatting) work. Most of the others I've seen are fairly well developed, but this one is decidedly underdeveloped. I don't see that as a good reason to simply remove the whole section though. Anyway... I'm willing to be talked into this being a good idea, I think that some explaination is warranted though.
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 00:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Interesting... now that I'm really looking it seems as though about 1/3 of them have a wake up calls section, and the rest don't. All of the really recent flights seem to have it, but it's really hit or miss beyond that. The ones that do all have that reference to the history.nasa.gov pdf document though... and I don't think that we should loose that, even if it is decided to somehow refactor the section.
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 00:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of San Marino

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Seltaeb

"remove [sic] spuriously accurate [an oxymoron?] inflation-adjusted figure, make [sic] round number". (Shimgray's edit comment)

Why did you think this will help, and why did you not discuss it on the talk page?--andreasegde (talk) 00:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

AbuseFilter 204

Is this no longer needed now? No hits since August 22. Prodego ^talk 01:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

citation needed

interesting page you created in your userspace. As the gnome who's been tending to WP:Citation needed for the last few weeks, I was initially skeptical, but this is actually some nice content.

I have long wanted to move WP:Citation needed to Help:Citation needed. Maybe we could move the current page to Help: , and put your content into WP:. Then you could get your content into the WP: space without it conflicting with the purpose of the Citation needed page, which is to be brief and direct. (Of course the template would be redirected to point to Help:.)

Thoughts? Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 05:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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fyi car>automobile

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By word of mouth...

Greetings again, Shimgray - a month back you kindly thoughtfully granted me autoreviewer rights and I reckon I've pretty much lived up to the high responsibility, i.e. no List of names of bartenders appearing in B movies so far :) .

There's another editor, User talk:Cosprings, I often meet up with on articles I frequent who I know would be of great assistance to Wikpedia if he also had autoreviewer status. S/he's beaten me to the draw on more than one occasion by creating an article that I'd been meaning to create but never got round to doing. I was going to propose this editor directly but thought it better to ask him/her first if s/he were interested, and the answer has just come back in the affirmative, so if you have a moment to spare to have a butcher's, I'm sure you'll agree. Cheers!--Technopat (talk) 16:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that!--Technopat (talk) 16:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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proposal for autoreviewer

Greetings Shimgray - you kindly followed up my proposal to grant autoreviewer rights to an editor I proposed recently and I was wondering if you would care to do the same for another editor I reckon could make good use of same. The editor in question, Mikenorton, points out that the Wikipedia guidelines suggest 75 articles while

I'm a bit shy of that (54 disregarding redirects to date).

and far be it for me to dictate Wikipedia policy, but I reckon the track record speaks for itself. Cheers, --Technopat (talk) 21:08, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Impressive number of new articles...

Greetings Shimgray - ever since you brought the New pages link to my attention (!) I keep coming across editors who I reckon could make good use of the autoreviewer function. The latest is User:Johnlp, whose impressive track record is at:[2]. Hope that these nominees don't create too much extra work for you - look on the bright side: in the long run it will probably leave you with more time for other stuff :) Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 18:41, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'll try to use the new responsibility with care! Johnlp (talk) 21:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

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Greetings & thanks!

Greetings Shimgray - thanks for taking the time for those. I'll try to exercise a bit of self-control and not hassle you over the next coupla days with new requests. Unless, of course... nah! Cheers!--Technopat (talk) 21:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I realise that there is a real world out there, but since you kindly (!) introduced me to the new pages lark, it seems ever so far away...--Technopat (talk) 23:26, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

And thanks from me as well to you both. Mikenorton (talk) 06:17, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Featured article nomination for Inner German border

I have nominated Inner German border as a featured article candidate. Thank you for your earlier feedback on the article - please feel free to comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Inner German border/archive1 on its suitability as a potential featured article. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:20, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

wp:citation needed

Hi Shimgray,

I've been a wikignome at wp:citation needed for the last few months, and it interests me that you've created User:Shimgray/Citation needed, which contains material which gives historical/cultural background on the topic. Although I'm not a big fan of having the material on the page, I have seen a lot of people express interest in it, and I don't think I could rally a vocal majority on my side.

The thing that does trouble me, though, is the idea of a wp: page containing a reference to the userspace -- since the former has an official tone, and the latter is more casual. It just seems a little awkward.

In an ideal world, your userspace article would appear in the articlespace under citation needed. I would fully support that, actually. Of course I expect you'd meet a lot of resistance from people who believe strongly in wp:self, and unfortunately, I don't have the time to take part in that debate.

But here is a compromise you might like. What if the current material in the wikipedia space is moved to the helpspace, and your userpage is moved to the wikipedia space. (This would require re-writing the code for {{citation needed}} to point to help:citation needed). Then the hyperlink at the bottom of help:citation needed would point to wp:citation needed rather than to User:Shimgray/Citation needed, and my whole hangup about tone would be resolved.

This is just an idea for you to chew over, and if you like it, you can act on it yourself. I suppose if you were looking to rally support for the idea, you'd look to Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy). If you're looking for points to make in defense of the proposal, I think the text at wp:citation needed really does fit better in the help:space, since it's written for newbies -- it's more tutorial material than policy material. The wp:space could then have the liberty to describe {{citation needed}} in exhaustive detail, ranging from usage to policy to the historical material on your userspace page.

Yours to consider. Peace!

Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 21:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

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HMS E18

It may interest you to know that the wreck of the sub has been found. As you seem to have done a lot of work on the article, are you in a position to improve the referencing? Many paragraphs are unreferenced. Mjroots (talk) 07:09, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Mercury-Atlas 8

Hi Shimgray. This is not an attempt to rush you, but I wondered if you have any idea how long it's likely to take you to track down the last couple of points on the GA review? I'm wary of letting it drag on too long...

Should I have a look for sources to support "it was beginning to seem as though the two sides were roughly equal" or the follow-up to that I suggested in the 'broad' section? You probably have better ideas of where to search than I, but I'm willing to lend a hand if you think it'd be helpful. Olaf Davis (talk) 15:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Great, it would be nice to get the GA done this weekend. Well done again for all your work on it! Olaf Davis (talk) 15:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

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Did I forget to thank you? ..

Thank you for participating in my RfA, which passed nearly unanimously with 174 in support, 2 in opposition and 1 neutral votes. Special thanks goes to RegentsPark, Samir and John Carter for their kind nomination and support. I am truly honored by the trust and confidence that the community has placed in me. I thank you for your kind inputs and I will be sincerely looking at the reasons that people opposed me so I can improve in those areas ( including my english ;) ). If you ever need anything please feel free to ask me and I would be happy to help you :). Have a great day ! -- Tinu Cherian - 06:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Good job

As I see you've noticed, I've passed the article. I had a lot of fun working on it. Any plans for anything similar in the near future? Feel free to let me know if you'd like a hand with anything.

Happy editing! Olaf Davis (talk) 19:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

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Now the RFA is live if you want to punch in that !vote again. I jumped the gun there the first time around, as I should have waited until he answered the questions and accepted the nomination. MuZemike 22:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

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STS 129 (deletion of Launch Attempt and Tweetup Info.)

1. Consider reinstating the Launch Attempt Table. Reasons; Although succeeded, first attempt is still an attempt!. It is rare that a shuttle liftoffs on its initial attempt. Most importantly, the Table reported weather forecast information on launch date. Hence, if the Table is kept as deleted, the weather information must be added some where in the page.

2. Deletion of Tweetup information. This is the first time that NASA had arranged such an event. Hence, (though it was not added by me) I think this will be interesting to the Wikipedia readers.

152.226.7.201 (talk) 07:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I reinstated the first-ever Shuttle launch tweetup to the article. It is notable on many fronts and I added the AP article on it and several facts the bolster my reason for reinstating it--21 U.S. states represented & 5 countries incl. Morocco & New Zealand. First-ever launch Tweetup. Unprecedented tour of Kennedy Space Center (not the Visitor's Complex, the actual Space Center) which generally only VIPS get, not members of the general public as all of the 100 #nasatweetup attendees were. Unprecedented access to view the launch from the National Historic Site countdown clock, including this group photo taken by NASA HQ's photographer, Carla Cioffi -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/nasahqphoto/4111455630/, etc. While I agree the section could use fleshing out, it in no way warranted being deleted altogether. - Ageekgal (talk) 09:07, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

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I once suggested to an administrator about writing a "how to"/rulebook for Wikipedia and he essentially told me to fuck off. I later found out that a Wikipedia trustee had exactly the same idea and is/was working on putting all the rules in one place, particularly for newbies.

About the problem of the target of the merge not wanting it, perhaps we can develop a simple flow chart. AFD keep means keep, delete means delete. If merged then the arrow goes to the merge box. If partial merge is the desired, then the arrow directs the reader to the talk page. If none of the merged information is acceptable then the arrow goes to either deletion review or a 2nd AFD is submitted (if we want this).

What do you think? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 00:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Problem: If an AFD is to merge, the editors in the receiving article may not want the merged text (might want 0% of it, not just some of it)

After thinking it over, I think the best way is for the adminstrator to "ask" the object/target of the proposed merged if they are willing to take it. If they take some of it, then merge is ok. If they don't want any of it, then the administrator can take that into account about whether to keep or delete. The administrator can "ask" the receiving talk page maybe 2 days before closing. This doesn't have to be policy but just common courtesy. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 20:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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At Talk:List of wars 1945-1989, I'm suggesting to merge List of wars 1945-1989 with List of wars 1900-1944, and then add 1990-1999 wars. I'm suggesting this so it could include all 20th century conflicts and not be broken up. Your input (hopefully in my favor) would be appreciated. B-Machine (talk) 17:31, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

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Royal Society

I assume this edit summary was deliberate? :P. Ironholds (talk) 16:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Although I assume you'd say that even if it wasn't :P. Would you be interested in helping me out with something? *Evil grin* Ironholds (talk) 16:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

behold, probably the greatest potential legislative article in history (if AGK pulls his finger out and does the third of it on Scots law, since he's the only Scots lawyer I know). Unfortunately, I'm crap at Hansard-finding. Mind searching out first/second/third readings and the lot for me? I'll shove em in myself. Ironholds (talk) 16:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

You won't be able to find the second Commons reading - there wasn't one! The government assumed that it'd be uncontroversial, and so simply pushed through without a formal debate. Cosmic irony then being what it is, the Bill stirred up a shitstorm of controversy at the Committee stage. Ahh well - if it was my party in power... :P. Any luck pinning down who introduced it? Ironholds (talk) 18:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Interesting; ta! Ironholds (talk) 18:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks for leaving the review for Byzantine-Sassanid War of 602-628. I'll try to work on the lead and grammar editing. Thanks again. DemonicInfluence (talk) 17:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

List of NASA aircraft

Hi Shimgray, I just wanted to let you know that I've started editing List of NASA aircraft. I see that you've contributed in the past, so I wanted to invite you to come back and collaberate on building the article, if you're willing. Thanks!
— V = I * R (talk to Ohms law) 20:50, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

PS.: I saw the PROD of NASA one, which is what prompted me to return to the List of NASA aircraft article, which I spun out of the main NASA article months ago and then abandoned (shame on me! ). I ended up merging and then redirecting the content that was in the NASA One article into the list. I saw that you removed some content about NASA One from the list article earlier, and the merge pretty much preempts the deletion, so I hope you don't mind. I think that it's better this way, and you did get me to return to the list article anyway. I'd look forward to your input on the list article.
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Regiment changes

Hello
Thanks for your note. I noticed that the hostilities-only regiments had a couple of different forms (some with full name and some with date of formation) so I was trying to make them consistent. I also thought it was worth differentiating them from the "permanent" regiments, as the items in the category seemed confusing otherwise. Is there a forum for discussing changes with British regiments? I could see some things that needed doing, so I thought I'd get on with it. Xyl 54 (talk) 01:24, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
PS I'll leave off doing them until I hear from you. Xyl 54 (talk) 01:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello again

Did you have any more thoughts on a standard disambiguator for the temporary regiments? I'm asking, as I’m minded that these aren’t the only ones. (The 95th (for example) says this was the sixth regt bearing that number) so I was thinking we could do with a dab page for all the numbered regts, listing the previous incarnations and the basic information (like the ship pages (eg HMS Surprise) or the numbered U-boat pages (eg U-142).

That way any entities with a small history can stay on the page (like HMS Surprise (1799), or SM U-142): I doubt if there’ll be enough interest to write a full page on them, but it resolves what would otherwise be a gap in the sequence.

The corollary would be to lose the pages we were discussing altogether; unless one of them had a decent history (I noticed one of the 84th Regiments was pretty active). What do you think?

( I had some other thoughts, I've put them below. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

"not a stub"

Regarding recent changes you've made to the class of certain articles, I agree that they are not stubs, but shouldn't you be assigning another class in place of stub? I'm not an expert on the assessment process and I don't know the standard practice. — John Cardinal (talk) 19:00, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Got it. I feel some of the same reluctance to rate articles. — John Cardinal (talk) 19:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

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Regiments, again

Hello again
I was interested in doing some more editing on the British Infantry Regiments pages, but have hit a bit of a wall, so I thought I’d check back with you.
I notice we have articles on most of the pre-1881 regiments, as well as their post-1881 incarnations ( which is fair enough, there’s more than enough history between 1881 and the present (or 1958, if that’s the case); I was minded to check through and, where necessary, make the changes. Some of the named/county regts may need splitting, for example (Sherwood Foresters is the most obvious example, but there may be more) and some of the numbers might neeed a page, even if it's just a stub. (On the subject of "temporary" regiments I've replied above.) I was also thinking we should have a “British regiments prior to 1881” category, for all the numbered regts.
What do you think? Xyl 54 (talk) 23:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I got your note; I’ve replied there, for continuity. Xyl 54 (talk) 03:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Another reply, there. Xyl 54 (talk) 04:55, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi, just to let you know, I've added an update. Xyl 54 (talk) 03:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

OTRS numbers

Hey Shimgray, I was reading over this. I was asking Amory about the very thing the other day, and if the two of you can come up with some charts for strategy within the next month, that would be very, very useful data. Thanks for spending all that time on the talk page explaining quality! Keegan (talk) 04:56, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks ...

For your reasoned, sensible analysis at the Orion page. Happy to leave it out.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:43, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

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Sidebar translate changes

It seems that you use my interwiki translator script. I have modified it a bit, so I suggest that you replace the half of your monobook js page starting with

//
// [[User:Manishearth/languagetrans.js]]
//<br />

and ending with:

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Pour toi

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Regiments, yet again

Just to say I've looked at 60 to 80: I noticed you'd moved some pages in the 50's but I wasn't clear what; are these to move lists on nnRoF to nnRoF (disamb)? Do you think that's the best way round? (I queried it [[User talk:Xyl 54#(outdent)|here). The alternative is to have the list on the RoF page and lose the dab pages. Let me know what you think, as there's some between 60 and 80 need doing, either way; I can do them tomorrow if you like. Xyl 54 (talk) 00:42, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, I can go with that...Xyl 54 (talk) 14:56, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Done: I've put something stubby for the 83rd, 85th and 94th Rgts. That's me for the night...Xyl 54 (talk) 02:33, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

--
Hello! (sorry, I’ve been away for a bit) I thought I’d better check back with you on this, though it seems you’ve pretty much covered it now; well done! Xyl 54 (talk) 16:10, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

British Army

Now it reads The British Army is the most advanced in the European Union ! This is crappy nationalistic bull shit. First From turkish people trying to say their army is th largest in europe, and now from a Brit trying to say the British army in the most advanced! Politicaly Russia and turkey are not european, thus it is ok to mention the BA is 2nd largets in europe. Rademire (talk) 21:16, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

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Re. User:Shimgray/RAF

You may know this already, but just in case: squadrons numbered in the 400-489 range were never officially "RAF" units; they were RCAF, RAAF and RNZAF units formed, staffed and commanded according to Article XV of the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan. Cheers, Grant | Talk 02:29, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

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Not stubs

Hi. I have noticed that you have been going around removing assessments from article talk pages on the basis that they "aren't stubs". It is great that you are able to identify that the assessment is wrong, but would it be possible for you to correct the assessment rather than remove it? If you are not sure what the assessment should be but feel it is better than a stub then feel free to bump it up to start class.
However, if you prefer to continue just removing the assessments, can you please at least avoid removing the empty parameters like in this edit? Retyping the parameters just adds more work for the assessor. Thanks. Road Wizard (talk) 11:13, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Cheers!

Thanks for reclassigying William Gott. I only opened the article to get a picture for Nigel Poett, only to find there wasn't a decent picture. Then one thing led to another, and twenty minutes later I'd uploaded a new photo and added an infobox. I might have bash at getting poor old 'Strafer' into a better shape after I finish Poett. Can't find much about him on my bookshelves, though, which is a shame. Skinny87 (talk) 20:35, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

That's incredibly kind of you, shim. I've been wanting to read Clark's book for a while, but I'm rather brassic at the moment. If you hold onto it for a little while, I can send you something for it. Skinny87 (talk) 21:00, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Email away with the details. Once again, very kind of you. Anything I can help you with on here, as thanks? Skinny87 (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I just got the book in the post. It looks brilliant, and I can't wait to start reading it. Email me if you're ever down Chichester or the South-West and I'll buy you that drink! Skinny87 (talk) 21:19, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

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Pepper v Hart

this discussion/comment request may interest you. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 06:48, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

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Could you unprotect this please? The election is announced now so the original reason has lapsed, but you semi-protected it for 2 months. --Pontificalibus (talk) 10:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh I should have noticed that, sorry! --Pontificalibus (talk) 11:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

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Kurt Meyer (soldier)

Hi! Since it has been established that the accusations against Meyer are indeed in Beevor's book, would you mind undoing the delete of my insertion of that fact in the article? As you know, I can't very well do it. And I take it you don't think I would quote correctly from Beevor's book and then for some reason supply the wrong page number. Beevor's source (given in a footnote) is Peter Lieb: Konventionelle Krieg oder NS-Weltanschauungskrieg? Kriegführen und Partisanenbekämpfung in Frankreich 1943/44, München 2007, p. 159. Ojevindlang (talk) 15:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)Ojevindlang (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Protection of MPs elected in the United Kingdom general election, 2010

This doesn't seem to be justified, can you reconsider it please? Thanks. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your detailed reply, I see your point, and it is a fair one. However unprotection has been requested on WP:RUP by 81.111.114.131. They have also been discussing the article on the talk page in some depth, so there is at least one IP editor who wants to make constructive edits. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :). -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for No. 219 Squadron RAF

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Egg on face...

Urgh... not sure how that mix-up happened; please accept my apologies for the inconvenience. I usually always check for the sysop bit, but for some reason neglected to do so yesterday. (For the record, it appeared that Je was the one edit warring and that you were just trying to contain the problem.) Thanks for being such a good sport with respect to the errant note. Cheers. --Ckatz^chat_spy 17:23, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

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"WP:WHACK" redirects here. You may be looking for WP:Wikipedia is not Whac-A-Mole (WP:WHAC).

Not to be confused with Cod throwing.

Whacking with a wet trout or trouting is a common practice on Wikipedia when experienced editors slip up and make a silly mistake. It, along with sentencing to the village stocks, is used to resolve one-off instances of seemingly silly behavior amongst normally constructive community members, as opposed to long term patterns of disruptive edits, which earn warnings and blocks.

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[3] HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I was hoping no-one had noticed that little accident... er. Shimgray | talk | 15:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Never mind. It happens to the best of us sometimes. At least you didn't delete it! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Heathen vs Pagan

There's actually a few reason I specifically chose the word Heathen: besides it being the native English term (from Anglo-Saxon hǣðen), it's also the very vocabulary that would have been used by the people in question, as well as how in modern times, "Heathen" is coming to mean specifically Germanic paganism, to distinguish it from other forms (Saami, Baltic, Roman, etc). Finally, the article is relevant to modern Ásatrú Heathens. Also, I feel that the name should be capitalized, as it is now very much a name as opposed to a mere description (as well as capitalizing it would give equal respect to both factions. consider how much ruckus would be caused if an article on race were to have White but also black). —ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 17:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. While it's not universal, it's growing more in that direction. The term Heathen was made "bad" by Christianity, as it was this term which was used in English biblical translations (simply the author using native English speech). As a side-note, "lust" once simply meant "joy" as it does in other Germanic languages, but was "demonized" by means of the bible as well. In any case, Heathen is being "taken back," especially in the last 10 years or so, but this "taking back" began in the 1970's. Take it easy. —ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 20:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

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Greetings again

Greetings Shimgray - just a curiousity - no urgent need for answer. I'm newpage patrolling and came across the following message at Treborth Botanic Garden:

Cannot mark as patrolled

You need to specify a revision to mark as patrolled.

Return to Main Page

which, as it says, takes me back to Main Page rather than, for example, New Pages. A bug? Or is there some simpler reason? Cheers!--Technopat (talk) 17:13, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reply. Don't worry - won't lose any sleep over it. Famous last words... --Technopat (talk) 18:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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And again...

Greetings Shimgray - Just came across an editor, User:Geoboe84, with something like 450 articles created and asked him/her if s/he'd be interested in autoreview. Could you please do the honours. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 05:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hi, I have begun a review of your GA nomination and have entered some comments at Talk:Ernest Brooks (photographer)/GA1. Regards, Xtzou (Talk) 20:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

The article has passed. I had a great time looking at all the photos. Thanks for introducing me to Brooks! Best wishes, Xtzou (Talk) 14:28, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

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How is Andrew Thorne not a stub? It is very short. It only covers some years of his life, and even important events during those years (Norway) are not mentioned. Geschichte (talk) 07:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

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