AndyDrinkwater

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Hello, AndyDrinkwater, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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November 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Methods of website linking, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 00:09, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Barek - thanks for the feedback. Perhaps I am being green about this, but how much more reliable does Wiki need than actually performing the research? Thanks, Andy

Please see WP:RS. Statements should not be speculative nor be documenting original research into a subject. Instead, third-party reliable sources that directly support the claims should be provided. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 00:20, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

• Note: You must have more knowledge about WP than you show, considering you're offering page creation for businesses.TMCk (talk) 01:18, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
  That begs the question: How many accounts do you really already have here???TMCk (talk) 01:20, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

How many accounts do I have? Well, two, seeing as it was deemed by the Wiki police that on the other one , my name used is not suitable and I must be doing something underhanded. I sadly see and hear this a lot that people such as yourself like to try and make out that there is something going on, and for the life of me, I don't know why. Does it give you a sense of power? How about trying to be helpful and constructive, rather then the suspicious over-zealous individual that you have turned in to?

Wikipedia is turning into a big boys club full of suspicious individuals who like to point a finger and make out that every edit is something that should be met with a prison sentence. Please, do yourself a favour and re-evaluate how you talk to people from behind the safety of your computer screen...

And before you go quoting me and my site out of context, please get your facts straight. If you read what that page above says, it says for companies and individuals.— Preceding unsigned comment added by AndyDrinkwater (talk • contribs)

You must have missed to check back on my talk page where I responded to your inquire posted there. The above post I made after I took a closer look to your website and I do think my concern is warranted.TMCk (talk) 21:08, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

You see, this is the problem with Wikipedia. You think your concern is warranted, so no matter what I do or say, you judge people, and that is a very poor trait. So I was told to change my name because it appeared to be suspicious, so I changed it, only to be told its the same edit but with a different name, WHICH I WAS TOLD TO CHANGE!

You really can't win, and this is what I mean about Wiki becoming like a big boys club!

So what if I offer these services to companies - I run a business!! You might not realise it now, but creating a page is hugely complicated for someone new and I offer to help them with that. I don't guarantee anything will be accepted, but I will try to do things the right way rather than typical spam. I try to add value, as I had done here.

So it really is guilty until proven innocent in your eyes and just because someone runs a business, it is something you need to do in order to set them out amongst others? At least I'm not trying to hide anything, but the problem now is that you will look at everything else I do with the same suspicious eye. This is why I will NOT be adding anything from this account again and will create a new one and when I use Wikipedia, I shall just change my IP address, which is the only way to make a fresh start that won't be seen as dodgy.

Not at all pleased with the draconian way in which this has been handled - feel very pleased with yourself that you annoyed someone just a little bit more. I hope you are happy and mission accomplished!