User talk:AreJay/Archive 03

Peer review

hi, as someone who has knowledge of subcontinent history and has contributed to a previous Indo Pakistan conflict I'm sending this message out to you. I have nominated Wikipedia:Peer review/Kargil War/archive1 for a review. Of course this could be a sensitive article but along with other editors I'm trying to present a factual and neutral version of the war backed with sources. Admittedly it is also shorter than what you'd expect of a FA candidate but the war itself was pretty short and limited. I request you help in improving the article from any angle seen fit. I'm requesting others with similar interests in military/history to do the same to guide the editors in improving it to FA status if possible. Tx and cheers. Idleguy 16:06, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Language of a city

Languages Spoken in a City could mean the main languages spoken by a majority of the residents - need not be the mother tongue or native language of the majority of the residents. For cosmo cities like Mumbai and Bangalore, English and Hindi are universally spoken. The state language could be another addition, + languages from neighboring states like gujarati and tamil resp.

Ofcourse, this depends on the exact demographics of the city in question and has nothing to do with the state where the city is located or the native tongue.

Pizzadeliveryboy 21:51, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Bangalore edit rvs

re. yr edit reverses in Bangalore#Urban_life:

'Bangalore has significant proportions of groups that would otherwise be considered minorities in India, including Muslims, Christians and Anglo-Indians.'

The section in bold should go since it kind of sounds parochial and abrasive. I think it kind of suggests that minorities need to continuously reminded that they are indeed minorities. just mentioning that specific communities also live in BLR should be enough.

Pizzadeliveryboy 01:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

regarding urban life of bangalore

well,i deleted the stats dat said 38% kannada............. The reasons being:

1. Most of the census(of dat magazine/website)is done in urban areas where there are posh high rise buildings and apartments which house people mostly from out of state. whereas much of the Kannada speaking areas are in the sub-urban areas.
2. most slum areas have large Tamilian and Telugu immigrants belonging to guild/worker class.
3. In no area of Bangalore have i ever spoken any other language other than kannada and english.
4. why are all the advertisements and banners in Kannada,if majority of them dont speak/read Kannada.
5. the film industry is definetly not a guage of the people linguistic identity.

If you still want to revert my edits,please leave a msg on my talk page explaining so,and revert it.Thank you--Jayanthv86 19:02, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

India related links

	Links for Wikipedians interested in India content
Newcomers: Welcome kit | Register: Indian Wikipedians | Network: Noticeboard (WP:INWNB) Browse: India | Open tasks | Deletions Contribute content: Wikiportal India - Indian current events (WP:INCE) India collaboration of the week (WP:INCOTW) - Category adoptions

Hi, you may already know abt the links above, but just thought it wd be on safer side to add them to ur talkpage. --Gurubrahma 09:42, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Bangalore peer review

• Sure. I'll comment on it in a few hours. After all, it's the city of my residence. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 06:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
• I shall surely give my comments - but by Saturday-Sunday. I have lived in the city for a month few years before: it is a beautiful city. --Bhadani 15:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

"Bangaloreites" is also used, but "Bangaloreans is the more accurate & more popular term. --Pamri • Talk 04:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Land of Confusion

Hi, AreJay. I noticed you do work on the Genesis and Phil Collins articles. I've started a peer review on Land of Confusion, since I think it's a great song, and could be made into a featured article. Any help you could add would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Anthony Hit me up... 12:15, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Bangalore Population

Hi Dont take it personal and I appreciate you intention, and still I need to see your 39% statistics which i dont see anywhere in the Indian sensus catergories. Else as I told before i would submit the edits that you had gone through to the Administration panel(which is quite enough to show you biased edits). Its not a threat or something, its a matter of truth and one would have to realise that a false information told several times cannot become a truth. I have recorded all your edits as comparison to be submitted to the Administrator panel. Expecting your correction of the phrases on these statistics by yourself, else I will pass over a memorondum to the panel. Gomez

Hi, Thanks for your welcome note, I am surprise that you must be new to this place. AreJay I would assume that you are completely biased about the population of Kanadigas as 39% percentage is completely biased. As a Bangalorean myself, I felt completely embarased by seeing the wrong informations. I would trust BBC than the citation that you had coted. The census that you had coted is just the website which you say the data is furnished but not. I would encourage you to be unbiazed and respect the intergrity of the multicultural atmosphere existing in Bangalore without your racial feelings, which I could see through out your edits had been followed up and taken into consideration to be reported. I would assume you would be unbiased else I would have to report this matter to Administration of Wikipedia.

Gomez

Reply to your Message

Hi Rxasgomez,

Thank you for contributing to the Bangalore article. However, some of the statistics quoted by you have been removed because they failed, per WP:V. It is important that statistics have not only sources, but also verifiable sources. The BBC website and the other website do not discuss how they obtained the percentages of Kannada/Tamil speakers in the country. Any statistics quoted could not possibly trump the stats that were previously included in the article, which were issued by the Government of Karnataka during the 2001 census, and therefore they have been deleted. The statistics on the number of Urdu and Malayalam speakers did not have any citations and so were automatically deteted. However, please continue to contribute to the Bangalore article to help improve its overall quality. As you may be aware, the article is currently undergoing a WP:Peer review and upon completion, will be nominated for a Featured Article status. Thanks AreJay 00:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi, The Statistics that I had coted as 18% and 10% are as before you had started to contributing to this article. Check the history before you had come into the picture. I will see the development for a week and then will submit the history and reference verification querry before the Administration. You can place your opinion and get their verdict(For you information the consequence will be to termination of ones contribution all together).I like your spirit of Bangalore projection as Hi tech hub and as being a Bangalorean Tamil, I think I need to choose a hard option like this. Please go throught your edits once for all and if you still see truth in it we can place the problem to the administrator jurries.

Ok we can see how they decide about this situation.

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Bangalore's FAC

Hi AreJay - I know you are excited about moving up to FAC, but I recommend you fully incorporate Sundar and Nichalp's points. Now ideally, the PR should lie dormant for around 5 days, but I think the article is more than ready and now susceptible to over-editing. Congratulations on a marvellous effort and best of luck for the upcoming FAC. Be on your toes during it to address any objection/comment which might come through. Also list this FAC on Wikipedia:Notice board for India-related topics (you must know this already I guess...). Good luck! Rama's Arrow 08:18, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Concerning comments on the FAC, these sources may (or may not) be useful:

Analysing Urban Solid Waste in Developing Countries: a Perspective on Bangalore, India

Managerial and Financial Aspects of Sustainable WATSAN Operation: A Case of Rajasthan, India. compares Rajasthan info with Banglore and other places on page 2.

Natural Resources Census for India describes Banglore near the end. --maclean25 23:23, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Something for Working on Bangalore

Moved barnstar to User page

Image copyright problem with Image:BangaloreMahanagaraPalike.gif

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Image:FA-star-India

Hi Arejay, very thanks to suggest me about this image. Really this image deserves indian featured articles image. May i know how did u colored that image. Will u colored Cscr-candidate image. Really it will also help me. Thank you so much -- Shyam ^(T/C) 07:24, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Arejay, thanks for replying. Thanks for your "Yes" to create an image for IP:FAC. Suggest me some ideas. But I doubt that people will respond it properly or would it be worthless? Thanks-- Shyam ^(T/C) 15:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello Arejay, i am very thankful to make your contributions, but i think it would be worthless as Wikipedia administration is unhappy for whatever we do for Portal:India Featured articles and they are going to delete all these pages See this.... If you can contribute in some way for deletion these articles. I was willing to make Portal:India as Main Page looks like today. Thank you very much in anticipation -- Shyam ^(T/C) 11:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Arejay, Without a featured article link would these templates be feasible? I am not sure. Please suggest. Thank you -- Shyam ^(T/C) 14:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Arejay, I am quite convinced what you said but i am unable to understand what would be the problem if these pages remain there. He is going to delete some pages like Portal:India Today's featured article/March 2006. It will create problem for me without a listing what i have already posted. If they are surely going to delete then this is the only solution. I have posted it on wikivillage (proposals). Let's see what people say about this. Thanks -- Shyam ^(T/C) 14:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Arejay, I think you might not have noticed that i am going to post the articles on the daily basis. There is no such big deal to rename the article if he wants me to do so. I have contacted Raul654 but i am not sure that will he respond or not, because i have seen somewhere that somebody criticised this person for not responding then other person replied was he is a busy man. -- Shyam ^(T/C) 15:00, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Portal:India Selected articles

"might I suggest that we stick with our current format of featuring a Selected Article of the Week?" I don't think currently Portal:India has a weekly selected article. yes, you are saying correct that we don't have enough articles till now as "A-class articles" but i am thinking that we can include some good "B-class articles". Just thinking...your suggestions are always invited. What I am thinking is, first we start Today's selected article on Portal:India, if we do not have enough articles on the daily basis we can repeat because my created stream is on the basis of daily articles, i have worked deeply in this matter. It could be difficult to create a new stream. Lets' see how is it feasible.

Notice board for India-related topics/Version 1.0 assesment has very old examples- Featured articles, like Bangalore, it assumes as starting article. It needs to be update. I have selected articles, like you are talking South India without going deeply on the talk-pages but i found it as one of the best articles. So i selected it. One more thing, I want to make a policy (if, active members towards Portal:India agreed) that articles featured on Wikipedia:Featured articles can not be selected as a Portal:India Selected articles Suggest me further. Thanks -- Shyam ^(T/C) 07:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Congrats

for working hard to get the FA status for Bangalore and succeeding. Way to go!! --Gurubrahma 14:43, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Congrats AreJay! -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 07:21, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

K. R. Narayanan FAC

Dear RJ,Thank you very much for the suggestions.It seems you are suggestiong that a peer review is a must for becoming an FA.I think I've seen FACs without a PR.AndI Don't see why the career section is too long.Anyway,I'll try to deal with it. Don't see what more could be written about a professional diplomat, other than his career and education...and politics. The image problem has been resolved.Also,I personally believe the exhaustive external links the article has got is something that would help those using this encyclopedia.I see the FAC is still going on,so I'll wait some more time before withdrawing.Thank You very much once again.--Sahodaran 03:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!Yeah,perhaps a peer review will do a lot more to improve it.Let me observe the FAC for some more time before putting it for a PR.--Sahodaran 03:50, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

K. R. Narayanan PR

Hi RJ, will you participate in the peer review? Thanks. -Pournami 13:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Karnataka Population.png

Thank you for uploading the Image:Karnataka Population.png. It would be great if you could include the legend as well. This will help the viewer understand the meaning of the colours. Thanks IndianCow 14:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

INCOTW

Nominations remain for a month at least, as per Wikipedia:Notice_board_for_India-related_topics/INCOTW#Selection. Originally, there was no deadline for removing noms, but it was proposed as 2 weeks - I asked for 2 months and we decided on 1 month. See the talkpage of INCOTW for the relevant discussion. I feel that we need to specify that the max. no. of noms at any given time on the page should not be more than 6 - right now, it is 8 and few people would see the ones below. We can add this to the rules with a note on the talkpage - you may want to go for it as I am busy right now; or I will add it sometime later in the week. --Gurubrahma 06:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I think the noms removed must be placed at Wikipedia:Notice board for India-related topics/INCOTW/Removed. --Gurubrahma 18:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

main page

Hi - I've submitted Bangalore for Main Page display.[1] Thanks for a great job done! Rama's Arrow 14:46, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Kargil TFA

Hi, I think right now we should wait and allow some more time before it appears on the main page. One of the reasons is that the casualties section needs a few tweaks and that TIME image's fair use rationale needs to be accepted by the community (already veering towards a keep) and other loose ends to be tied. In the meantime, Bangalore is also listed on TFA, so I'd be happy if that appears before Kargil gets on the main page, especially since you've worked for that article's improvement. :-)

P.S. You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Idleguy and decide to cast your vote. Admittedly, a few rough statements I made months ago to a couple of editors is the only roadblock. Thanks. Idleguy 14:36, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Adding News

Before adding news to India potal check whether it is still under development. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srinivasasha (talk • contribs)

Pakistan peer review

I just want to thank you for taking the time to peer review the Pakistan article. While I haven't got to many of the things you mentioned, or for that matter, other people have mentioned, I intend to do so this weekend. And just to comment on your comment from the peer review, the majority of the work on this article was done by other editors. So any credit, more than 99% of it, goes to the other numerous editors. Pepsidrinka 13:56, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Portal:India

Colours

I'm not too happy with the colours. The green and saffron seem to clash. Unfortunately I can't see the true colour as my home PC has a magenta tint. I'll have to wait till Monday to guage the colours. Also, white text on saffron has poor contrast.

Image box

I've also noticed that the Featured image box overlaps into thw wikiprojects and tasks boxes on the right on 800x600. (This is common to the Aus portal too). The width of the image shld be reduced.

Current events.

Can we have the current events linked directly from wikipedia instead of wikinews?

Thanks and regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:07, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi greetings

Hi, I am wishing you a happy Holi, the unique Hindu celebration of color and brotherhood among all members of the humanity. The festival falls on 15th March 2006. I have collected A Gift Pack of Quotations for you contained in the sections Do things Differently & Something More , which are part of the on-going discussion pertaining to my nomination of Idleguy for adminship. You are aware of the tradition that if you throw colored water on flames of burning Holika, you enable a Prahlad to emerge from the flames!!! I again convey Holi greetings to you and your family!!! --Bhadani 14:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Sardar Patel PR

Hi AreJay - Sardar Patel is in peer review. Could really use your help/advice. Rama's Arrow 16:47, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

re: cscsarchive.org

Hi, I will get in touch with him soon. The stuff that is password protected is material scanned from newspaper,etc., which are copyrighted. I had asked him about the images and he had no objections to us using it. I will send a mail soon to recieve a sort of formal approval. --Pamri • Talk 00:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Infrastructural Concerns in Bangalore

Just so you know, a couple of anons have taken great exception to this entire article ... I've left a disputed-neutrality tag (thinned down from their dozen or so) on there for now but it looks OK to me to be honest. --Bth 20:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi AreJay. The anons have been engaged in disruptive trolling and POV pushing since several days. See Special:Contributions/209.180.28.6 and Special:Contributions/67.164.5.90. I've already had a very bad time with the former. I've also gently warned him at User talk:209.180.28.6. BostonMA has already given a {{test2a-n}} warning.

Regarding Infrastructural Concerns in Bangalore, I feel that you've done your best in citing sources for a well-known fact. I can empathise with the trouble that you're made to endure. If there is any contrary opinion, let the anons produce sources and it can be added. In the absence of that, do not feed the trolls. If they vandalise articles, just post appropriate warning messages by inserting {{subst:test2b}} or any other appropriate message from Category:User warning templates. If higher levels of warning have reached, you can request action from an administrator. I can't initiate action as I'm personally involved in a POV issue with that anon. User:Gurubrahma could be a neutral admin to intervene in this matter. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 05:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

In addition to what Sundar says, there is no need to tolerate any radical edits by anon IP users. My concern is, are their other articles like this - examples of the need to discuss such issues separately ? - the issues are adequately noted and cited in Bangalore. Also, I note that Mumbai, San Jose, California and Chennai don't have a similar forks. If you find that there is no real need to discuss the issues separately from the main Bangalore article, then the right thing to do is to go for speedy delete. However if you find a solid basis for the article's right to exist, there is obviously no problem. Just judge this question for yourself. Of course I will help and support you, especially as the anon IP is purely disruptive in behavior. Btw, excellent work on portal:India! Rama's Arrow 14:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

On a personal note - keep your cool at all times, and don't even feel a need to counter any ridiculous attack coated in abusive language - its useless, isn't it? The guy's prolly not gonna change in his nature owing to an altercation on Wikipedia. If he continues to disrupt, obviously an admin should take over. I've asked user:Gurubrahma to check this out. Rama's Arrow 14:33, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes I agree, its a good idea to open an article that deals with the subject of infrastructure in its entirety. Check if other Bangalore forks might have similar issues. As long as everything is factually based and cited, there is no concern of POV, and you will be correct in citing that the gravity of problems out-do the positives at this time. The delay with Lothal had something to do with a lot of FACs being "problematic." For his own good reasons, Raul654 was holding up promotions and moves of FACs. I was a bit worried for a while, but obviously I'm delighted now. Btw, great minds do think alike...mostly - you're not a die-hard supporter of George W. Bush are you? Hehehehehe....Take care, and keep up the great work! Rama's Arrow 15:26, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

Moved Barnstar to User page

Selected articles streaming

AreJay, Thanks for your message. This is not a big job. If you want to change artcles on daily basis use {{CURRENTDAY}}. It changes automatically the date. e.g. Today is 9th March 2006 means {{CURRENTDAY}} is 9, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} is March, {{CURRENTYEAR}} is 2006. For showing weekly articles use <nowiki>{{CURRENTWEEK}} which is 10 from Monday, 5th to Sunday, 11th. Please let me know other queries if you have. Thank you, Shyam ^(T/C) 18:43, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

INCOTW

Thanks for updating this week's INCOTW. There are few more steps that were needed.

• Add Old COTW template to the talk page of the article. [2],
• Create a subpage to archive the votes. [3]
• Add the article to the history of past winners of INCOTW. [4]

Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 19:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I had been updating INCOTW for sometime now. Pamri was doing it before me. Glad to have you on board. :) - Ganeshk (talk) 20:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

India portal

I noticed your most recent change to align the shortcut with the browsebar. I feel the format is off now. The centering of the links is gone. Can anything be done please? (or we could revert to have the shortcut outside) - Ganeshk (talk) 20:33, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

South India FAC/ INCOTW

Thanks for your msg. As per suggesion: Done. --hydkat 11:44, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Infrastructure

Hi - your friend is beginning use of sockpppets - please make the move you devised soon. Rama's Arrow 01:51, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

sockpuppets!! if u guys r talking 'bout the sarvagnya guy and me..i should say.."LOL" :))...i dont see why it bothers you anyway, if you have a point..a valid point ie. i just think that u guys have been caught with your pants down.Balnanmaga

Re: Indian Child Welfare Act

Thanks for pointing that out. I replaced it with the closest Indian act. --Pamri • Talk 09:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

CafePress

Thanks for your note, AreJay. I will admit that I sometimes fail at the assume good faith rule of Wiki. I was concerned that the other editor and I would soon be reverting past three times, and I wanted to ensure there was some comment of it on the talk page incase an admin needed to be involved. The editor is currently involved in a similar edit war on another page (For CafePress, oddly enough), and I just didn't want to see the normally quiet Collins page become a revert war.

However, I took your suggestion and left a polite message for the editor on his talk page. Hopefully, after referencing the link you provided me, it will be helpful.

Thank you, as well, for the compliments with getting the Collins page to FA. Duke is a personal favorite album of mine as well. Although I don't always listen to the others as much as I probably should, Duke is a regular in my CD player and truly a classic. I'm happy that the FA status of the Collins page has encouraged other editors to begin creating pages for his other singles and albums.

Thanks again for your note. All the best, --Ataricodfish 04:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Template:Karnataka topics

Very good job done in this template, I am adding this template to related links. Consider the Including of Divisions in this Template:Karnataka topics. Again thanks a lot for this job --Raja Hussain 06:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Holi greetings :)

HAPPY HOLI TO YOU!

File:Ociholi.gif

Happy Holi!

--hydkat 09:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

• Holi greetings. --Bhadani 14:01, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

an award

Moved barnstar to User page

Hi - I definitely want to be an admin, but its gonna take more work. Thanks for your support - lot of work and fun awaits us for the future! Rama's Arrow 17:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

You could prolly convert Infrastructure in Bangalore into an FA...Rama's Arrow 21:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Land of Confusion

Hey AreJay, I've been doing some work on the Land of Confusion article. I've made additions to the page, including some screenshots and citations. However, not knowing much about writing music and styles, I'm a little lost when it comes to your suggestion that I discuss the song's composition, key, etc. If you could offer any assistance to the page with respect to that portion, I'd greatly appreciate it, since I think the song is moving along towards FA status. Thank you for any help you can give. Anthony Hit me up... 14:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article review

Hi - the best thing to do is to move Hinduism to review immediately, giving us time to work things out. I've stated this reason on the FARC. Rama's Arrow 23:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Chikkaveera Rajendra

Chikkaveera Rajendra is on AfD. Can you please expand the article a little. Tintin (talk) 09:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Tintin (talk) 15:03, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Arejay, thanx for adding to CVR. One small point: beginning from 1982, the Jnanpith was awarded for a writer's overall oeuvre and not for one specific work, refer this. MVI won the award in 1983. I'm wondering if you can make a suitable amendment? Best regards, ImpuMozhi 16:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)