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Hey, Aschroet, I saw you moved this file to Commons, but I don't think that was appropriate. The photo is PD in the US, since it was in an ONI publication from around 1900, but we don't know the actual origin of the photograph. In addition to internal processes, ONI routinely purchased images of foreign ships for recognition purposes. Since we don't know for sure whether this was a work of the US Navy, I don't think we can make a valid claim that it's PD worldwide, which is a requirement for Commons. Parsecboy (talk) 11:56, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Parsecboy, my naive assumption is that an almost 150 year old photo is 100% PD. --Arnd (talk) 14:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's not how it works, unfortunately; we can't just assume a photo is PD because it's 120 years old. Consider the possibility of a German 20-year old photographer in 1895 or so, assuming that's when the photo was taken. They might well have lived into the 1950s, which would mean the photo would still be under copyright in the country of origin, since the term of copyright lasts for 70 years after the author's death. We'd either need to track down the photographer and find their date of death, or find the first publication to determine if it was published anonymously. Parsecboy (talk) 15:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- is i an unlikely case. But anyway, can't we just leave it on Commons and on enwiki? So in case it is deleted there it is still available. --Arnd (talk) 16:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- That's not how it works, unfortunately; we can't just assume a photo is PD because it's 120 years old. Consider the possibility of a German 20-year old photographer in 1895 or so, assuming that's when the photo was taken. They might well have lived into the 1950s, which would mean the photo would still be under copyright in the country of origin, since the term of copyright lasts for 70 years after the author's death. We'd either need to track down the photographer and find their date of death, or find the first publication to determine if it was published anonymously. Parsecboy (talk) 15:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
October 2024
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Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Gunther Kohlmey. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.
In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Jalen Barks (Woof) 17:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- @JalenBarks, thanks for the explanation. Actually, the copy-paste-action was a workaround because the move did not work. --Arnd (talk) 17:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)