Avecchione

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Hello, Avecchione, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Your questions

I replied to you on my talk page, thanks! 19:35, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I hope at some point you will respond to my questions. Thanks again. Latr, Katr 17:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Idaho State Historical Society

I noticed you seem to be involved in Idaho State Historical Society, and are adding links to that site. I have just opened a case on our Spam wikiproject on this subject: WT:WPSPAM#Idaho State Historical Society. I hope you can help us discuss the subject. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 20:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Answer

Hi. Don't worry, it is just that we want a clarification. One of your collegues (according to the staff-list of the site you work for) was adding links to one specific site (not this one), and recieved a couple of warnings (which unfortunately all got ignored). When I checked his further edits I saw this small group of accounts which had some things in common. I am sorry, but lately there have been some cases of massive link-additions to musea/libraries etc., which may have been against policy/guideline, and therefore I choose to discuss early on.

We were all (once) new here, and had to learn. I understand that you want to help the wikipedia, and working for an historical site. That means that you have access to a lot of (valuable) information, and I am sure Wikipedia can use that to its advantage!

But, we are writing an encyclopedia here. That means that it is mainly content that we are interested in. Not in external links only. Furthermore (and that is linked in the welcome message above), we have some policies and guidelines, some of which are very important (the five pillars).

In this case, policies and guidelines of interest are:

• WP:NOT - policy, what wikipedia is not. In this case, the section WP:NOT#REPOSITORY is of interest.
• WP:EL - guideline on external links.
• WP:COI - guideline on conflict of interest.
• WP:RS - what Wikipedia regards as a reliable source (which, most probably, would include your site)

And to a lesser extend:

• WP:SPAM - guideline, what Wikipedia regards spam (there is a section 'how not to be a spammer' which may be of interest).

Some other guidelines:

• WP:CITE - citation system
• WP:FOOT - how to create citations

All of these are derived from the 5 pillars I named above.

So in short, if your main target is to add content which improves Wikipedia (and I am sure it is), using reliable sources as citations (which can include links to your site, but, keeping a neutral point of view, also to other sites), then there are no problems. I hope this explains, and if you have further questions, don't hesitate to ask. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 21:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very, very much. I did as much research as I felt that I possibly could before we decided to jump in and add information. There seem to be more rules on wikipedia than I could have even imagined. I wasn't expected to be affronted by people who call themselves wikicops, and I didn't even know there was such a thing. I'm a young librarian. I want to add content. I want people to get access to information. All I want is people to get access to information.

I really do appreciate the insights, and I will try to read as much as humanly possible next week while most people are on vacation.

Best, Truly,

Avecchione 21:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Amy

Thanks for the reply. There is a whole mechanism behind wikipedia where people are monitoring edits and link additions (of course mainly to catch resp. vandalism and spam). You got caught a bit in a cross-fire because of a collegue who added links to a site which was under monitor by one of our automated accounts (my 'bot', actually, user:COIBot). Hope to see you around, happy editing, and have a nice day! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 21:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. I hope I'm not the "wikicop" to whom you are referring. That's sort of a joke between me and some of the other editors of WikiProject Oregon. I can explain more about that if you want to know. I did answer your questions, but with all the traffic on this page, I'm not sure you saw my link to my response or if you know about watching my talk page for my response. And I apologize if you detected any hostility in my answer or anything like that. To clarify, since I think I understand your questions better, like I say on my talk page, I keep all the articles about Oregon cities on my watchlist. I put that up front on my talk page because that's what I do a lot of. I'm under no obiligation to say that, but it's nice for editors to talk a little bit about themselves. I happen to keep a bunch of other Oregon-related things on my watchlist too, as I am one of the main contributors to WikiProject Oregon. I don't, as a rule, keep "every single" one of anything else on my watchlist, such as Idaho, but WikiProject Oregon does have some tools for monitoring all the articles that are related to that project, which I use from time to time. (If you're interested in knowing more about that, let me know). As I state on my talkpage, I don't do this for any other reason except to make sure the Oregon articles are the best that they can be. If I had any other motivation, surely I would have been blocked by now. As it is, I have over 18,000 edits and a very positive track record, as evidenced by some of the barnstars people have given me. Not that I like bragging about myself, but I'm just trying to explain that I'm not some random editor who is trying to give you a hard time. Be sure to ask me if you have any other questions. It looks like Beetstra has been an enormous help though. Take care, Latr, Katr 21:57, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm actually not interested in knowing any more about you calling yourself a wikicop.

Alrighty then. I've tried to welcome you and be helpful, but I guess I'm coming across all wrong. I'll leave you with a couple more links to guidelines that might be helpful and promise I'll never edit articles about Idaho again. See Assume Good Faith and Civility. Happy editing! Latr, Katr 16:55, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Idaho articles

I work on the Idaho Wikiproject. I am actually very interested in the concept of integrating articles with NWDA. I work at Washington State University Library in Pullman, which is also part of NWDA. I am sensing confusion on the part of some administrators on Wikipedia about links to outside sources. The argument about Conflict of Interest is interesting, except that our whole existence in libraries is based on providing access to information. I certainly hope the abrupt actions of some admins doesn't discourage you. I would like to work with you and TGarrick to add content to existing articles using the resources at the historical society. If we can take this to the Talk:Old Idaho State Penitentiary, maybe we can work out a way to add value to the article and not trigger a Spam alert. I will contact TGarrick as well. --Robbie Giles 00:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Notability of Alexander Rossi, assayer

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Mining in Idaho -- possible copyright vio

Hi -- I tagged Mining in Idaho with possible copyright vio, because it appears at least some of its text is copied from the one source given in the article, which appears not to be in the public domain. Hopefully you can address this by editing the article or by noting how I may be mistaken. sincerely, doncram (talk) 19:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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