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Composure/Cool

Please explain why you changed composure back to cool on Huang Jianxiang. Seems to me that "lost his composure" is the more formal way of saying "lost his cool", which is colloquial. --Sumple (Talk) 07:20, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

1) "lose cool" commonly means "to suddenly become very angry and start shouting" (see that comment I left), which is very suitable for Huang's behaviour while commentatating the last minute of that game. that's why this phrase appeared in the related news reports.

2) "lose composure" may not properly express the above meaning, it just means "no calm or steady control over the emotions".

3) here is a translation of what Zhang said orally, not somebody's formal writing, so using "lose cool" is reasonable, though it seems to be colloquial. actually, we even need it a bit colloquial here.

4) "失态" commonly means "to misbehave" or "to conduct oneself ludicrously (after drinking, etc.)", but not "lose composure" in English.

5) better used simple words if possible, to make the translation not only correct but also meaningful.

since you didn't reply here, i will change it back to "lose cool". if you still have any opinions on the diction, please discuss here before repeatedly modifying the artcle, as i mentioned in that comment. thanks.

-- User:Bbao

see that comment I left: sorry, must have missed it. where did you leave it?

Repeatedly?? Please consider the use of informative edit summaries in future.

Anyway, in terms of accuracy 失态 shouldn't really be translated as either "lose composure" or "lose cool". "forget oneself" is probably closer to the true meaning, but I can see why you wanted to make them parallel "losses". --Sumple (Talk) 03:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

personally, i think the accurate translation of "失态" should be "to misbehave", "forget oneself" might be a bit colloquial, hehe. ;-)). anyway, as you said, all the direct translations for word "失态" are not proper in the context here, not only for the meanings but also for the parallel expressions that used by Zhang. so for a better word to describe Huang's behaviour at that moment, i believe "lose cool" is the right one. thanks for your discussion. -- User:Bbao

this comment. i left it as a comment for you in the article. it seemed that you deleted it.

"Personally I think 'lose cool' is the right word. Plese see:

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/lose+cool and the related news report from BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5125016.stm. I'd suggest going to the Discussion page for further discussion if necessary."

-- User:Bbao

Ah ok. I must've missed it. Sorry. =D Thanks for the convo. --Sumple (Talk) 04:32, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

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Dear Bbao,

I think we need your contribution in Experts-Exchange article now, more than before. I'm trying my best to rectify the content and structure of that article to follow WP:NPOV guideline more than before, and I'm aware you are an older EE member and a more experienced Wikipedia editor than me. I would be glad to have your comments on my posts in the Talk page of that article.

Best regards,

huji—TALK 09:35, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

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