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Tony Penikett

I'am deeply truly apologize for my horrendous act. I was trying to ask you to unprotect the article but you refuse it to do it. I was trying to help that' all I was trying fixing articles as my duty job to do it so from now on don't be such a rude administrator jut do it for others and your family can you do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.69.21.218 (talk) 10:03, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm not being rude; you're failing to follow the rules, even though they've been explained to you many, many times. We do not unprotect articles just because an anonymous IP asks for unprotection — articles are protected for reasons, so one needs reasons why unprotection is warranted. You say, for instance, that you're trying to "fix" the article — but you're refusing to provide any detail whatsoever about what content in the article needs any fixing. The reason the article was originally protected in the first place is because a new editor repeatedly tried to overwrite the whole thing with a pure LinkedIn résumé for Penikett's current consulting work, while completely eliminating any acknowledgement whatsoever of the fact that Penikett had ever been in politics at all — and if you refuse to explain what you want to fix, I have no way of knowing that you aren't that same editor trying to do the same thing again. This is not me being rude or unprofessional, or failing to do my job — my responsibility on here is to the project, not to you personally, and my job is to enforce the rules, not to just uncritically do every single thing every single user ever asks for. This is the rules: if you want carte blanche to "fix" the article yourself, then you need to explain what it is about the article that needs "fixing". And it's not my job to give you that carte blanche, if you're not following the rules. Bearcat (talk) 18:04, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

• Who's the new editor cause you protected the article in the first place? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.199.95.165 (talk) 07:36, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

City guidelines

On your edit on the Victoria talk page you alluded to guidelines of how city articles should have their own pages and not be brought into a single article. Do you know of where on here that I can look at those guidelines myself for my own curiousity? Thanks. Air.light (talk) 22:32, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Need a little help

Hi Bearcat, just wondering if you could fix something for me in the Hants West article when you get a chance. The MLA joined the Liberal caucus, and I can not figure out how to change the list of MLAs box correctly to show the change of party in the middle of the 62nd Legislature. This is coupled with the fact that he was an independent for two years, which wasn't changed, so that should also be reflected. No matter what I do, I can't seem to get it right when I preview. Thanks in advance. Cmr08 (talk) 21:34, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Bearcat Cmr08 (talk) 22:07, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of RICHES Mosaic Interface?

I am new to Wikipedia. I made a wikipedia page as a project for a University of Central Florida History program (RICHES Mosaic Interface) with direct permission from the creators of the program. I need more clarification about how to keep this page online and available for public viewing. UCFHistory (talk) 21:56, 17 February 2016 (UTC)UCFHistory

• Do you know who's the new editor caused you protected the article of Tony Penikett in the first place? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.69.59.157 (talk) 16:42, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Sportspeople from Canadian small cities and small towns at CFD

Hi Bearcat, I haven't talk to you in a long time. Now I am just here to say Hi and I need your help. I am proposing the sportspeople categories for upmerging to People from categories at CFD. Why, beacuse of the small cities and small towns in Canada for it's smallest population. Here is the proposed plan. Number 1, go to the February 19 page at CFD Here is the link right here. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 19#Sportspeople from Canadian small cities and small towns, Number 2, the section of the CFD is titled "Sportspeople from Canadian small cities and small towns. Number 3, Look at the categories that are proposed for merging. Number 4, read my nominator's rationale. And number 5, participate if you want to support merging by discussing it. Those were the proposed plans for February 19's CFD. I will see you at the CFD's February 19 page. Steam5 (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

• Hey you I ask you who's the new editor cause you protected the article of Tony Penikett in the first place who? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.132.254.123 (talk) 06:12, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Alan Cross for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Alan Cross is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan Cross until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. KDS4444^Talk 00:18, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Requested moves on railroad articles

I need your help again, Two users have opposed move on adding a second commas on articles. I have proposed move without second commas on railroad articles. We know there is no second commas on railroad articles. If you want to participate and disucss, Here is the link right here. Talk:Hinton, Alberta, railway station#Requested move 22 February 2016 I will see you at the requested move page. Steam5 (talk) 01:06, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt your edits on different articles. I know you're busy. But I need your help, it's urgent. Remember my message about railway articles without using a second comma next to the word railway station. Got to the reuested move page for proposing the move without a second comma and two users oppose it. Here is the link right there. Talk:Hinton, Alberta, railway station#Requested move 22 February 2016 Fell free to discuss it anytime. I will see you at the requested move page. Steam5 (talk) 04:46, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Political spouses (First Gentlemen)

Bearcat, have you any thoughts about the notability of spouses of well-known politicians who have done nothing at all notable except to marry a well-known politician? And yet may be covered in depth in major media as "spouse of." We have a surprising number of articles that fit this description. If the queston interests you at all, I have started a thread on the talk page of WP:INHERIT, prompted by an active AFD on Michael Haley (South Carolina).E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:34, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

February 2016

I noticed that a message you recently left to a newcomer may have been unduly harsh for a newcomer. Please remember not to bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. Thank you. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 17:28, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Murdoch Mysteries

You indefinitely protected "Murdoch Mysteries" and gave the reason "Persistent disruptive editing". Vast overreaction considering that a total of one (1) editor seems to disagree with you. As a consequence however, I cannot edit the article, and you will have to fix the error I noticed. Have a nice day!-217.248.25.179 (talk) 20:19, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

List of Canadian Academy Award winners and nominees

Did you happen to spot this also in the new article sorting? Interesting -- and so far, quite incomplete. I thought a hatnote was advisable, too. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:13, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

• Me again. Is there any style reason why we shouldn't just make the section headings blue links, in your opinion? Like right now we have ==Best Actor== and then underneath, a blue link for [[Academy Award for Best Actor|Leading Actor]]. It seems a pointless repetition. I realize that's the least of this list's problems, but I was thinking of starting there. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:16, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

could you please explain...

In this edit you applied a {{primarysources}} tag to the article on Joseph Tezanos. At the time you did so the article had four references, but I don't think any of those references met the definition of WP:PRIMARY.

If Tezanos had written about his experiences, or one of the people he rescued, or who helped him in the rescue, had written about the event, those first hand accounts would be primary sources. But when a writer goes back, and consults multiple documents, multiple sources, and forms an interpretation, I think that meets our definition of WP:SECONDARY

I've added more references. I have not removed the {{primarysources}} tag you added, without checking to see why you thought it was appropriate.

If, for the sake of argument, all four of those references were written by employees of the USCG, I think they would still meet our definition of WP:SECONDARY. Yes, it would natural for employees of the USCG to bring an unconscious bias to their writing, even if a superior hadn't directed them specifically include a bias. But wikipedia contributors couldn't possibily try to restrict themselves to using references that measured up to our goal of neutrality, as proactically ever document out there is unapologetically written from a POV. Isn't that why we have guidelines that tell us how to write unbiased articles from biased references, by using them carefully?

1. "Joseph Tezanos: AWARDS AND CITATIONS". Military Times. Archived from the original on 2014-09-14. Retrieved 2014-09-13. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
2. Stephanie Young, William H. Thiesen (2014-01-16). "Coast Guard Heroes: Joseph Tezanos". USCG. Archived from the original on 2014-09-14. Retrieved 2014-09-13. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
3. "FRC Plan B: The Sentinel Class". Defense Industry Daily. 2014-05-02. Archived from the original on 2014-07-07. Retrieved 2014-04-03. All of these boats will be named after enlisted Coast Guard heroes, who distinguished themselves in USCG or military service. The first 25 have been named, but only 8 have been commissioned... {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
4. William H. Thiesen. "From Santander, Spain, to Syracuse University: Coast Guard Officer Joseph Tezanos's Pursuit of the American Dream". Arlington Cemetery. Retrieved 2014-09-14. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

In addition, I think you may have assumed that Military Times was an official DoD publication. It is not. It is private enterprise. I believe Defense Industry Daily is also a private enterprise.

William Thiessen, the Coast Guard's official historian, is an academic. He holds a PhD, and previously the curator of a museum. I think the CG hired him as an academic, so we should expect academic distance from him. Geo Swan (talk) 21:26, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

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Request on 21:54:45, 6 March 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Greenthumb2016

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Thank you, that was very helpful. Cleaned it up and resubmitted. Left out most of the press mentions because figured it wasn't necessary and other editors could add it in if deemed necessary.

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A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for the helpful feedback. Made sense. Greenthumb2016 (talk) 21:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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Musician who keeps on getting reverted

Okay so I reverted this back in February and it just came back earlier today Doug Robb, might want to take a look at this! Wgolf (talk) 01:30, 12 March 2016 (UTC)