User talk:Bearcat/Archive 97
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Film lists
Can we come to a consensus then on restoring the film lists? I just searched for films in 1980 in film. The list has been removed in favour of the country lists. Then I click List of American films of 1980 and not only does it have a bloated release list with excessive cast, but even has 1979 films like Caligula and Stalker, which is a Russian film. Erik thoughts?It's just very few people comment these days at WP:Film. The IP reverted my restoration back to the bloated release table. All I want is a simple A-Z list, consistently by year and country! It is time consuming going back and finding the original text and restoring and even if I do that it seems like nobody is watching these lists and would help revert the ip if he did it again. There also seems to be a tendency on recent years for the big bloated release tables, I argue that even those should be converted to simple A-Z lists.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:57, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Lists by year have only ever existed at the country level, and no such thing as "List of all 1980 films irrespective of country" has ever existed at all in order to be "removed".
- I've already raised the point on more than one occasion that YYYY-by-country lists should be organized by title first rather than by release date, but largely my plaints have fallen on deaf ears. If you're willing to agree with me, that's great, but I'm not the barrier to doing that — I'm the guy who's tried to get the lists organized that way, only to run into a wall of inertia, and you're the first person who's ever responded to agree with me about it.
- If films are being added to wrong years or countries, then the way to fix that is by removing them from the lists they don't belong in, not by complaining about it to people who didn't do it.
- Turning the categories back into all-inclusives that have to directly include every film from that country even if it's already extensively subcategorized for genre and length and other considerations, and even if that puts the category deeply over the "category is too large and needs some size control measures" bar, is not really the way forward, because that causes more problems than it solves (including the virtual impossibility of properly maintaining the largest ones because their out-of-control size makes it impossible to find all the entries that are missing from the parent and/or the subcategories — we need small and manageable categories for that, not 10,000-film megacategories.) Bearcat (talk) 19:10, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- I mean 1980 in film had a general A-Z list which I restored. That's great that you support but if I'm going to restore them again ideally I need some sort of further support at WP:Film and multiple people watching them so if the IP comes back he is spotted that's all. WP Film seems to be much quieter than it used to be for discussions. I'll try bringing it up but doubt I'll get much of a response. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:14, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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