BeforeSwine

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Nikol Hasler

Hi. Stop reverting my edits on Nikol Hasler to add unsourced information. Please review our policy on biographies and understand that you're about to violate our WP:3RR. Let me know if you have any questions. --Damiens.rf 20:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• Having read the guidelines for the WP:BLP I see that information is meant to be unbiased and factual. I feel that you are inflicting a bias by deleting and rewording based on your opinions in the Nikol Hasler article. There is no need to threaten that I am in any violation of terms. As you ask for citations, it is being clarified that either the citation exists or your opinion based changes, such as "this person is not known" are being removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BeforeSwine (talk • contribs) 21:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
  • The onus is still yours to prove she's an "Internet Personality" and that she is "known".--Damiens.rf 21:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Assistance, please. If it is your desire to make all of Wiki better in reference of public pools of knowledge, how would you define someone as known and reference it? Given the amount of information available in any search regarding this person, it is not difficult to see that "internet personality" is fitting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BeforeSwine (talk • contribs) 21:14, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• "Known" and "Internet personality" are weakly defined terms. They only show that this person hasn't done anything notable in her life. Why don't you describe her by her real occupation and notability claim (if she actually have one)? --Damiens.rf 21:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, sir, you are demanding that every bit of information have a reference. What prompted a reference of the person's biographical location to be deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BeforeSwine (talk • contribs) 21:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• This kind of information is not encyclopedic, and can even be dangerous to be posted. Respect her by keeping this kind of personal information away for her wiki-bio. --Damiens.rf 21:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Well done for trying, in concert with other editors, to get things right this time around. Yes, our requirements for biographies of living persons are very strict. And yes, this does result in fussing over minutiae. But we are very strongly concerned with getting things right, and being a proper, accurate, encyclopaedic reference work. Another of our concerns is non-public information about a person that they have chosen to keep private, and personal information that could be abused. You have an argument, and possibly a good one, to make that non-specific information that someone has included in the potted autobiography next to xyr own newspaper column is probably not information that they desire to keep private, and not quite on the level of the person's actual house address. That's something to take up on the article's talk page with other editors. I suggest that you do that.

Welcome to Wikipedia, and remember that reasoned discussion on talk pages is also part of the process. Our ideal is that we are all open to persuasion by reasoned argument based upon policies, guidelines, and sources. I encourage you to help write other subjects here. There are hundreds of millions of articles here that still need work done. Even a paragraph of good, neutral, well-sourced, non-copyright infringing, content here and there helps to get the work done. Uncle G (talk) 20:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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