Bembridgian

October 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Ryde School with Upper Chine, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. The reverted edit can be found here. Thank you. Fæ (talk) 08:56, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Fae

Thank you SO MUCH for all your kind support.

The page on Ryde School with Upper Chine now looks fantastic -- and it is all because of you.

Thank you again

Best wishes

Bembridgian

Speedy deletion nomination of Camp beaumont

A tag has been placed on Camp beaumont requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Fæ (talk) 09:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

By the way, just to reassure you that this article was flagged to me randomly using an on-line tool rather than because I have any way of tracking your contributions. Had I noticed your name at the time I probably would have left the CSD tag for another editor to decide on. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 21:36, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Fae No need to worry - I am actually extremely grateful to you because you can identify problems. The question about Camp Beaumont is a difficult one because it does have a worldwide attraction and it is an educational activity centre and also a training centre. But is it a school? And then I looked at the discussion of what "school" means. And I really do believe it is a kind of "outdoors" school. These people are trained in the activities. It is fun, but it is learning. And I asked for a template to include this for Isle of Wight Schools but could not see the template change.

I know that I am no good at all at reading all the pages on how to do things better, and that is why I am so very grateful to you. With best wishes

Any type of organization or association could have an article but the article has to meet the notability criteria defined in WP:ORG. In particular this means that there must be independent sources showing "significant impact" by the organization. If you are in doubt then it is probably best to start an article as a draft in your userspace. For example if you click on User:Bembridgian/Camp Beaumont you can create a draft without the worry of speedy deletions (so long as it is not a cut & paste from another website as this would create copyright problems) with the intention of moving or copying it to create a new 'live' article later on. Many examples of camps can be found at Category:Summer camps. Fæ (talk) 21:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Fae THANK YOU so much --- I now understand how I can do it. I will draft without putting it online, and only once I have everything together do I need to put it up. I did not understand this before. You are a great educator! best wishes Bembridgian

How to add footnotes

Footnotes can be added inline to the body of your text using <ref> tags. An example looks like:

JavaScript is used on webpages today.<ref>Smith, John (2005), ''JavaScript 101'', ISBN 938223445333</ref>

And the resultant text would look like: JavaScript is used on webpages today.¹

With the superscript 1 being a link to a footnote at the bottom of the page automatically created by inserting the code: {{reflist}}

An easy to follow standard guide is at WP:Referencing for beginners with citation templates and a primer for general editing is at WP:How to edit a page (concise). Thanks, Fæ (talk) 13:32, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Welcome

Welcome!

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Thank you very much for your kind help -- I am very much at the learning stage.

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Thank you very much, Sinebot --- I am at the learning stage, and cannot cope with the long pages of explanations, so thank you for your kind help

Amazon links

Hi, Amazon links are considered commercial (see, for example, this discussion) and for book citations should just be replaced with the ISBN or OCLC which can automatically link to a page of on-line source databases (possibly using templates such as {{citation}}, {{ISBN}} or {{OCLC}}). Thanks, Fæ (talk) 11:34, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Dear Fae I have a problem - there is NO ISBN number! And only Amazon has any specific link. I just wanted to prove its existence!

I have just checked OCLC and it is not in their searchbox, but maybe I do not know how to go about this, as I have not heard of this before.

The only citation I can use is that of what I have now written: the names of the authors, the date of publication, the publisher and the press.

There is no online verification.

Maybe one of the libraries does have a copy but I do not know.

Thank you again

best wishes

Bembridgian

That's why I added {{citation |last=McIsaac |first=Roy |year=1966 |title=A torch was lit : a history of Ryde School, 1921-1996 |last2=Coombes |first2=Geoffrey |last3=School |first3=Ryde |publisher=Ryde School |oclc=43970658}}. If you test this out by clicking on OCLC 43970658 it will take you to the associated library record on WorldCat (which is non-commercial). I can recommend browsing on WorldCat as I can see it has a category of matches for publications on the school. Fæ (talk) 11:46, 11 October 2010 (UTC)