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I am at best ambivalent on Elwing. Her turning into a bird and going to Earendil (or however you spell her husband's name) is a key part of the eventual turning of the Silmarillion into a vicotry. I did once read a scholarly comparison of the fall of Troy and the fall of Gondolin that argued it is the combination of qualities of Elwing and her husband that lead to the victory of good. Of course that writer said Elwing was the daughter of Beren and Luthien, but I at least once told someone that Elrond lived in Gondolin, when in fact his father was a child when it was destoryed, but that was not in a scholarly paper. Mistakes about Tolkien's timeline exist, and inaccuracies are often more common when we have indepdent sources. Still I only created the entry on Elwing because her article was a redirect there. If you want to remove her from the list you should also propose a deletion of the redirect.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:23, 8 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • I am not convinced notability is the threshold for inclusion in the chracter list. I think though if we want to redirect Elwing she is most likely to be a redirect to Earendil. They are basically so comingled in notability that it is hard to speak of one without the other, with the exception of Earendil's very brief appearance in accounts of the fall of Gondolin.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:45, 8 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • The list reads The following is a list of notable characters from J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium (emphasis mine). I'm more than happy to discuss changing that threshold: in fact I started a discussion about it here. But at present the inclusion criteria seem fairly cut-and-dry. I'm happy with redirecting Elwing to Eärendil though. BenKuykendall (talk) 21:56, 8 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Given that we're cutting lists and individual's articles, I think it makes perfect sense for reasonably-significant characters to have a cited paragraph in a list article (or perhaps, an honourable mention with citation and maybe a footnote in a topic article, like Rohan or Mordor) but not their own article. They are after all part of a book (indeed, a heap of books) so they don't have to be 100% stand-alone notable to be worth mentioning and citing. Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:19, 13 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Hello everyone. I second this approach of creating a list entry for Elwing. And since Eärendil and his wife are in fact so comingled, how about having one article for both of them: Eärendil and Elwing? We could move the existing Eärendil page and then merge what was formerly presented in Elwing. Also, speaking of essays, I just found this. If only skimmed through it yet, but it might be very helpful. De728631 (talk) 22:55, 13 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Chiswick Chap and De728631: I like the Eärendil and Elwing idea; it would also justify having both of them on the list. I would not be opposed to a bold move. For the more general question of "who gets list entries on List of Middle-earth characters", I really urge you both to contribute to the discussion on the talk page. A few editors have made proposals you might find interesting. BenKuykendall (talk) 23:20, 13 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Alright, I have moved and merged Eärendil and Elwing to Eärendil and Elwing. De728631 (talk) 20:22, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi, and thank you for the closure. I have got a related question. In the discussion, this edit in the RfC discussed another use of the source, namely as a reference confirming the claim that "Bcash" is the WP:ALTNAME of Bitcoin Cash. I find it surprising that the editor claims that the source "directly conflicts with other sources...", while insisting that the source confirms the WP:ALTNAME claim. My interpretation of the RfC is that the source does not directly support the WP:ALTNAME claim and that it should be removed. Do you think that it can be done as a result of the RfC, or that there should be another RfC discussing this specific removal? Ladislav Mecir (talk) 22:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Ladislav Mecir: I am not heavily involved in editing Bitcoin Cash; I closed the discussion as a neutral party when the consensus for formulation 2 was quite clear. I don't have any authority or special qualifications to further interpret the discussion. I notice you are already discussing your latest change on the talk page. Certainly you should continue discussing with other interested editors there, either through a simple discussion or an RfC. BenKuykendall (talk) 22:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 23:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Hi, I agree that the green sauce article as it stood needed reliable sources. However, before proposing articles for deletion on the grounds that the topic is not notable, I'd suggest you first look in standard reference sources for the topic. In the case of culinary and gastronomic topics, The Oxford Companion to Food is a good starting place, and sure enough, it has an article on "greensauce" [sic] which mentions the British, German, Italian, French, and South American versions. Best, --Macrakis (talk) 17:16, 30 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Macrakis:. Thanks for the tip. I do not have access to that reference, but I am glad you found an adequate source for the article. I am happy to WP:WDAFD the nomination. BenKuykendall (talk) 18:38, 30 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! BTW, for other food-related articles, a Google Books search like [davidson food "green sauce" ] will often find useful information. --Macrakis (talk) 18:45, 30 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Hi Ben! Since you are a member of the cryptocurrency wikiproject, would you care to weigh in at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposal? --187.178.163.96 (talk) 21:13, 28 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your edits Ben. --187.178.163.96 (talk) 22:13, 28 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

@187.178.163.96: I can take a look at the AfD when you are done adding sources. A word of caution: stick to reliable sources. There are a lot of bad cryptocurrency news sites out there. Take a look at this discussion. BenKuykendall (talk) 22:23, 28 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

@BenKuykendall:, thanks for your comments. And thanks for the link, that is an interesting discussion! If you have time, there are a couple of other AfD going now: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bitcoin_Core and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bitcoin_XT. --Ysangkok (talk) 17:41, 29 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

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21 November 1887 Alphonse van Gèle reaches the Zongo rapids on the Ubangi River in the En Avant
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2 December 1974 the Société des Chemins de Fer Vicinaux du Congo is merged into the Société Nationale des Chemins de Fer Zaïrois
29 March 1997 Société Minière et Industrielle du Kivu is put into liquidation
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Hello User:BenKuykendall, I'm reaching out because you're listed as a contributor to the Cryptocurrency WikiProject. I am trying to get a draft published in the Cryptocurrency domain, but it's a bit difficult as the reviewers seem to have an opposition to the topic of crypto as a whole. Meanwhile there are other topics published with significantly less notability. As you are knowledgeable on the subject, could you please look at the draft and let me know if you can assist? Thank you! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Elongate_(cryptocurrency) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salamanderxander (talkcontribs) 16:19, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

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