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List of Grade I listed buildings in South Somerset

Thanks for your help with List of Grade I listed buildings in South Somerset. Previous FLCs on articles from the series at List of Grade I listed buildings in Somerset have criticised the lede as being too short because little description of the buildings is given in the table (specifically Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Grade I listed buildings in West Somerset/archive1), so I'd like to leave it & see what comments are made at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Grade I listed buildings in South Somerset/archive1. Of course if you want to raise it there -then we can have a wider discussion.— Rod ^talk 20:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Jesus College Plan

Hey there - I've finished a first draft.....

. please let me know if you need any modifications - colours, more specific rooms, letters etc. Regards --Joopercoopers (talk) 17:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

PS. I made a novel innovation here (the map is currently incomplete), which with a bit of effort, gives a nice bit of extra functionality for architecture articles in my opinion. It's untested at FAC mind, so you might want to err on the side of caution (are they still an ultra-conservative bunch over there?). --Joopercoopers (talk) 20:46, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

<cross posting - let's keep the discussion here for ease>--Joopercoopers (talk) 22:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, looks great! Thanks for all your hard work. (Sorry not to reply earlier - had a few days off). Can I now be really, really fussy?!

• The top left corner of the college ought to stretch to Cornmarket – see page 2 on this map
• There shouldn't be a patch of green above the words "Market Street" (last time I was there, it was concreted over and used for rubbish bins from the kitchen - it might have been a garden years ago, but not now!)
• Just to the side of that, the gap in the wall adjoining Market Street ought to be filled
• Could you mark the back entrance from Ship Street, which I think would be the bulge to the left of letter C?
• Could you label the stretch of building immediately above letter A as the Principal's lodgings?
• Could you perhaps move letter G slightly to the left, perhaps under the nearest tree?
• Could you label the building to the left of the Habbukak Room as the Old Members' Buildings?
• Could you also label the Fellows' Garden (say between the 2nd and 3rd of the four vertical trees on the left-hand side) and the Fellows' Library (bottom left corner, west side, of 2nd quad)?

You'll have to teach me how to do this because my plan is to write a few more similar articles and you won't want me bugging you all the time for maps. What software do you use?

Many thanks once again, Bencherlite^Talk 14:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Of course you can - give me 24hrs..... --Joopercoopers (talk) 15:18, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Done. (you may have to refresh your cache to see the updated image - CTRL+F5) A= First Quad, B=Second Quad, C=Third Quad, D=Junior Common Room, E=Habakkuk Room, F=Old Members' Building (I assume you meant to the right of the Habakkuk), G=Fellows' Garden, H=Fellows' Library, J=Dining Room, K=Principal's Lodgings, L=Chapel, M=Principal's Garden

Please let me know if you need any final tweaks.

I'm struck by a few things about the architecture of these colleges whenever I'm in Oxford. From the outside, the high walls often make them look almost prison like, but the element of control is acting in reverse, the high walls are keeping people out, and they're usually sumptuous within. I like that thought, a physical separation from those outside dealing with the mundanities of life and those within engaged in 'higher' thoughts. My guess is this is a residual memory of scholars and scribes at cloisters - and certainly explains the prevalence of 'Quads', but I've never really seen this explained anywhere. Perhaps its too obvious, or have I missed that section somewhere in the Oxford college articles?

As to "how it's done".......My workflow is to load images into AutoCAD and trace the lines over and add the north symbol. (I use it professionally, so it's quicker for me to draw lines in autocad, there's no real reason you can't do this in photoshop or the free equivalent 'Gimp'). I then load the lines into Photoshop and draw the ends of the roads in to create boundaries. I then flood fill the roads - similar process for the paths, trees buildings etc. I then make a selection set of the building colour and separate that on to a new layer and apply a drop shadow effect. Then it's just a case of adding the text. --Joopercoopers (talk) 23:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

PS, whilst the article benefits from a plan, I'm certain that for such a lovely set of buildings, it shouldn't be the lead image. - and it certainly won't offend my ego if it wasn't......second image will be just fine :-) Joopercoopers (talk) 23:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:Hornbook -- a new WP:Law task force for the J.D. curriculum

Hi Bencherlite/Archive 8,

I'm asking Wikipedians who are interested in United States legal articles to take a look at WP:Hornbook, the new "JD curriculum task force".

Our mission is to assimilate into Wikipedia all the insights of an American law school education, by reducing hornbooks to footnotes.

• Each casebook will have a subpage.

• Over the course of a semester, each subpage will shift its focus to track the unfolding curriculum(s) for classes using that casebook around the country.
• It will also feature an extensive, hyperlinked "index" or "outline" to that casebook, pointing to pages, headers, or {{anchors}} in Wikipedia (example).
• Individual law schools can freely adapt our casebook outlines to the idiosyncratic curriculum devised by each individual professor.

• I'm encouraging law students around the country to create local chapters of the club I'm starting at my own law school, "Student WP:Hornbook Editors". Using WP:Hornbook as our headquarters, we're hoping to create a study group so inclusive that nobody will dare not join.

What you can do now:

1. Add WP:Hornbook to your watchlist, {{User Hornbook}} to your userpage, and ~~~~ to Wikipedia:Hornbook/participants.

2. If you're a law student,

• Email http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Hornbook to your classmates, and tell them to do the same.
• Contact me directly via talk page or email about coordinating a chapter of "Student WP:Hornbook Editors" at your own school.

(You don't have to start the club, or even be involved in it; just help direct me to someone who might.)

3. Introduce yourself to me. Law editors on Wikipedia are a scarce commodity. Do knock on my talk page if there's an article you'd like help on.

Regards, Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 20:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Jesus College, Oxford delisted as GA

You know what this means. You have three months. 3... 2... 1... GO! rst20xx (talk) 12:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Benson (fish)

Yes. Please do suggest it. --Dweller (talk) 10:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Last Post (poem)

On August 14, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Last Post (poem), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 20:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Church of Ireland titles parameter

Earlier this month I left a message on Template talk:S-rel about a new parameter for the Church of Ireland, but there hasn't been any replies. I noticed that you too had no reponse to your message about the Church in Wales parameter and so boldly added the new Church in Wales titles parameter. Since the template is protected could you add the Church of Ireland parameter on my behalf. I'm not sure which is the best "ci" or "ie", I'll leave which one you think would be best. Please reply here on your talk page. Regards Scrivener-uki (talk) 15:43, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Done, using "ie". Good idea! Bencherlite^Talk 12:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much! - Scrivener-uki (talk) 15:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Chapter 3 - in which Bencherlite receives his much deserved Napoleonic Triple Crown

Your majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow these Imperial triple crown jewels upon Bencherlite for your contributions to articles of ye Olde Englande in the areas of WP:DYK, WP:GA, and WP:FC. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:33, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Last Post (poem)

Hello, Bencherlite. A few days ago I reviewed Last Post (poem) for GAC, but I forgot to transclude the subpage. Sorry about that! You can find the review here, and if you need extra time to address the concerns, just let me know. Thanks, María (habla conmigo) 13:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Buildings, FAC, Jesus, etc etc

Insulted? I should be....! Anyway. I spotted your subversive attempt to promote buildings of the wrong colour blue and have added some comments on the talkpage of said article. Trust me, I'm not traditionally difficult, these comments are there to help. Ping me if anything is nonsense. Plus, I can't wait to support, as I think it's an Oxbridge special with the effort you (and others) have put into it, so ping me in any case. (Now, no more talk of the other bits and pieces for a while please...) The Rambling Man (talk) 23:32, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Gulp! - not too pricy I hope, though the postage is likely to be non-standard. It only has half a big page on Jesus, but is an excellent work I generally rather prefer to the Jenkins volumes, assuming that, like me, you rarely go oop North. Johnbod (talk) 20:13, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Keble College members

Hello, I have got all the issues of the Record from the time I was at Keble i.e. 1964 onwards so would be able to help when you do start work.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 14:01, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Dark blue things

• Capitalisation of "Lodgings" - in plan is cap, in article is not cap.
• Similar with "Principal's Garden".

Otherwise, you'll get my support. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:10, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

FLRC delegate election

Hi Bencherlite! I'm just dropping by to let you know of the FLRC delegate election that begins on Tuesday. You may run in the election by following the instructions on the page. If you don't wish to run, please come and vote sometime next week! The election starts Tuesday and ends Saturday. For more information, check out the opening section of the page. Cheers, iMatthew ^talk at 19:37, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford

Generally speaking I don't comment on articles where the alt text is fine. I recall looking at that when it was nominated, without seeing any problems. Is there anything in particular you'd like to draw my attention to? Eubulides (talk) 18:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for mentioning the map. The alt text looks good, except that I'd replace directions like "above", "left", "right", and "below" with "north", "west", "east", and "south", as that's more useful. This is because the compass directions are more important for the gist than the orientation of the map. (Once when I read "above" I thought the alt text was talking about one building towering over another....) Eubulides (talk) 18:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure - I was waiting till I thought you were done. I should get to it in the next couple of days. Johnbod (talk) 23:40, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you SO much.

It's confirmed: This guy is a lunatic. I unblocked him, apologized for the error, welcomed him to the project and he became unhinged. Thank you for protecting my talk page. I swear, I don't know whey the hell I bother around here sometimes.  :( --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:58, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, good. I figured that you did, but I was about to check anyway. This is one of those times where it's obvious who this person is based on his company name; can we not present a formal complaint to the IP? This ranks as some of the worst harassment I've ever had to deal with. PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:04, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

LOL! You know, if his engine is for real (which it apparently is) and it really goes into production, I wish him well but I sure won't be installing one in any of my cars soon.  :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:08, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

List of operas set in the Crusades

Thanks so much for removing that bolding in the first line (and clarifying the MoS guidelines). I was most unhappy with it, but thought I 'had' to have it. I have now gleefully removed it from List of Orphean operas as well. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:37, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Katia Tiutiunnik

I spoke to some close colleagues of Dr. Katia Tiutiunnik and looked at some of her other sources. My research confirmed that Dr. Tiutiunnik's children are nominated in various documents associated with her and are central to her creative process. That is why I included her children's details.

Could you fix up some of the internal links (eg Queen Noor of Jordan, Bulgaria etc). —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldbergEva (talk • contribs) 10:44, 23 September 2009

After some reflection I see your point about not mentioning the names and birthdates of Katia Tiutiunnik's children, though the elder is mentioned in relation to some of her works and I was told that she will mention the younger in her soon-to-be released book version of her old Ph.D. dissertation. I will not undo your edit again. I would like some assistance in adding references to press articles etc. Thankyou. GoldbergEva —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldbergEva (talk • contribs) 05:12, 24 September 2009

List of UCF Alumni Featured List Candidate

Hello Bencherlite, since you reviewed the UCF Alumni list for FL nomination on the seventeenth, I feel that the quality of the article has greatly improved and that most of your concerns have been addressed. When you have a spare moment can you please give the article a once over and let us know what you feel can still be improved upon.--Scpmarlins (talk) 15:09, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Listed building category

Hi, you added King Edward's School, Bath to Category:Grade II listed educational buildings. I think that the building this refers too is actually an old school building that is no longer owned by the school. If this is the case is it correct to include it in this category? Smartse (talk) 13:18, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I think they should probably be removed - this says that it is no longer owned by the school, even if it the building is called King Edward's School - kind of confusing! Smartse (talk) 13:37, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Patrick Hastings

Thanks for the GA review :). I won't be at a useable terminal until Saturday evening, so apologies for any delay between the review and my response. Ironholds (talk) 21:04, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Which Inn would be acceptable? :P Ironholds (talk) 21:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Boo. I transferred to Gray's Inn a while back - it's actually at Peer Review at the mo (having been passed as a GA) - mind chipping in if you have a moment free? I've got a plan to get every Inn of Court (and the central article) to FA, which is easier than it sounds. Gray's Inn, as the one I'm closest to (translation: the one I have permission to take photographs of and use the Holker Library in) was my first project, but I was actually thinking of doing Inner Temple next, since it has an excellent DYK hook (did you know that the under-treasurer of Inner Temple is legally classified as a Local Authority?). Admittedly not as good as the Gray's Inn one (why did GI start employing a librarian? The benchers kept stealing all the books). Ironholds (talk) 21:36, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Ping, replied to the review. Thanks again for all your pointers. Give me a poke if you're interested in the Inner Temple FA project; if you're at the Inn, you have access to better sourcing than I do. Ironholds (talk) 20:26, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for all that :). Ironholds (talk) 22:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Again, awesome :). If you're anywhere near London, drop in on the wikimeet at December and I'll buy you a drink of your choice. We boast an excellent lawyers to laymen ratio :P. Ironholds (talk) 22:36, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

List of church restorations, amendments and furniture by John Douglas

Thanks for your helpful comments at FLC. I have responded to some of them and will deal with the rest, probably tomorrow. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 17:37, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

List of places of worship in Worthing

Yes, once I've got the missing photos! :D Although I work in Worthing, those remaining places are annoyingly distant suburbs (especially Findon Valley), so I'll have to get a bus... Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 12:25, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Hints, Staffordshire

Thanks for your advice at WP:HELPDESK. As an admin, are you able to do the swap for me, as described in WP:SWAP? Then I will sort out the hatnotes, etc. Thanks in advance. Jan1naD - (talk) 13:38, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Resolved

 – Thank you for the move. Jan1naD - (talk) 13:58, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Well done!

		The Original Barnstar
		Just read through Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford after looking through the recent FAs, and I'm extremely impressed. This is clearly among the best articles on WP. Excellent work. –Juliancolton | Talk 14:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Buildings of Nuffield College, Oxford

On October 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Buildings of Nuffield College, Oxford, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (see the pageview stats(?)) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks! Note:Halloween DYK is limited to top 32 articles ;-) Victuallers (talk) 06:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Austen Harrison

On October 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Austen Harrison, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (see the pageview stats(?)) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks! Note:Halloween DYK is limited to top 32 articles ;-) Victuallers (talk) 06:30, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

TLB

It's extremely kind of you to give me an award. It's actually been a lot of fun. You may have realised that I have become a fan of John Douglas and feel that he has been under-recognised; it's my attempt to right this. He designed our local church. Many years ago I became a good friend of its vicar, who then moved on and ended his career at another JD church - the one in his home village of Sandiway. And the Hubbard biography from which I have been largely working was lent to me by my son-in-law, whose father was one of its subscribers. Over the years I have been impressed by Douglas' delightful architecture in south Cheshire, and his black-and-white work in Chester. So it's all a bit of a thank-you to him. Best wishes. Peter. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 20:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Category:People convicted of rape

Hi; I recently told the creator of this category that I didn't see a problem with it being created so long as it remains a subcategory of Category:Rapists. This is the current state of things with Category:Murderers and Category:People convicted of murder. Certainly, people convicted of rape are a subgroup within "rapists". I know the creator has been having some difficultly in resisting a wholesale conversion of the rapists categories to the "convicted of rape" categories. I've tried to kind of guide him in this with my comments on his page. Maybe what you did is just as well, I'm not sure. If the subcategory system going to be developed it needs to be done delicately, and it wasn't being done very delicately. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:30, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

User:70.48.113.168

A longer block should be made on this IP of a long term vandal who's been attacking Wikipedia for three years now. Also you should deactivate talk page editing so he doesn't figure out what words trigger this.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 08:45, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Good point about the talk-page editing; reblocked. As the IP was only used for the first time the other day, seems little point in handing out very long blocks immediately, but I'll certainly extend it (and I'm sure others will too) if behaviour continues. Thanks, Bencherlite^Talk 08:48, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

It's a sockpuppet (although never logged in) coming back to continue to vandalize, except the abuse filter prevents him from vandalizing the specific articles that it protects. The IP he used last week is blocked for six months.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 08:51, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Reblocked for 6 months. Bencherlite^Talk 08:54, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 09:03, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

IP block

Thanks!Cptnono (talk) 09:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

D'oh. Thanks also for moving it to the correct page.Cptnono (talk) 09:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Hon Fellows further information

Hello, I am sure I will be able to find something about most of the queries. The only names I am familiar with are Howard Nixon and the de Breynes. Nixon must have an entry in Who Was Who if you are able to consult that. During his life he was the leading English expert on bookbinding. Andre de Breyne will have been written up in the Record as he was a major benefactor. My technical equipment does not run to scanning, or even printing, but I will report back when I have had a proper look.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 20:42, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Keble, eh?

What made you pick Keble? It's a very nice college... rst20xx (talk) 20:51, 13 October 2009 (UTC) (AKA Tuesday 1st week, Michaelmas)

I can think of one college founded in the last 50 years, but I'd hardly call it small... anyway, good luck! rst20xx (talk) 21:03, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks

For the barnstar. The ultimate aim is to complete places-of-worship lists for all 13 districts and boroughs in Sussex ... unfortunately the ones I've done so far are the most "manageable" ones: small and/or close to my home. Chichester and Rother could be particularly taxing! Enjoyable though. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 21:00, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Four Award

		Four Award
		Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work all through on Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford.

Steve Smith (talk) 05:42, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I copied and pasted from another entry, and missed removing those. Oops. Steve Smith (talk) 06:38, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Cadw

Just to let you know, if you need info about Welsh listed buildings, I have made another request and they have been more than helpful. I made a query about a list of specific John Douglas buildings in Wales and sent it over the weekend. It was read shortly after 9 am today and when I arrived home in the evening, I had received a full reply. My contact was [cut]. Hope this works for you if you need it. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 19:50, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Black Abbey

Hi Bencherlite, May I please ask you to add the DYK template to User:AFBorchert. The user provided great offline help to me in writing of the article. The user was the one, who made the plan of the Abbey. As a matter of fact all this edit I made was copied from the user email to me. Thank you for your consederation.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:19, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! It is very nice of you, and it is fair! Best wishes!--Mbz1 (talk) 18:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jayden Stockley

Hi, do you know if the DYK for Jayden Stockley, was ever shown on the main page? I can't find it in any of the archives? Thanks, --Jimbo^[online] 21:55, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

( none )

sorry about the mishap the other day, my fault, but whoever wrote Jenny S. rocks had that coming. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.58.254.15 (talk) 21:30, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of members of the Basketball Hall of Fame/archive1

We have a bit of a dilemma at this FLC; can you opine there? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 12:37, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Wilkes v Jessop

Why would you say that this case was not notable when the editors of the current law yearbook thought it was? What basis do you have to suggest that it does not set a precedent? Don't you think you're being a little eager with deletions? Do you not think it possible that if someone like me went to the trouble of putting it up, it might be notable? Wikidea 14:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I personally agree it isn't notable, and will be nominating it for AfD. Ironholds (talk) 14:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Gray's Inn

Just a quick thanks for the copyedit you're currently in the middle of :). Ironholds (talk) 14:52, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Well you've done a helluva lot of work on the article; feel free to claim any resulting FA as yours. It's worth noting that Wikidea's argument holds no water, since county courts can't set binding precedent. It'd be legal bedlam if they could. AfD, by the way. Ironholds (talk) 14:58, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Buildings and architecture of Bath - help with GAN comments

Hi, I put Buildings and architecture of Bath up for GA and a reviewer has started the review, making several comments (at Talk:Buildings and architecture of Bath/GA1) about the structure of the article and areas for development. If any of you had any time to take a look and make any edits or comments you feel are appropriate that would be great.— Rod ^talk 20:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Honorary Fellows

Hello again, I have found mentions of all these Fellows and hope this will be enough to fill in your table. If you want to see the full obituaries I could photocopy these pages and forward them by post though this would of course take many days. Best wishes.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 12:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

• When did Lodwrick Cook get his HF, and why? I assume it was for donations to the college, but can't find anything online to confirm. At a guess, 1992 or 1993.
  • ARCO was a huge benefactor
    • Lodwrick M. Cook, chief executive of ARCO, according to The Record 1993.
• Same questions for Ghillean Prance. At a guess, 1992 or 1993, for donations.
  • Ghillean Tolmie Prance, President Ronald Reagan, Stephen Desmond Watkins, Bryan Edgar Magee: all appear for the first time in The Record 1994
• Same questions for Victoria de Breyne. At a guess, it was 2001 or 2002, for donations to the college
  • Certainly André Felix de Breyne gave large amounts during his lifetime
  • Victoria Benz was his 2nd wife (for 25 years) and outlived him; col. portrait of André and Victoria de Breyne in The Record 1994. Victoria appointed Hon Fellow from May 2002 according to The Record 2002; listed later as Victoria Grace de Breyne (still in list 2008).
• Same questions for James Martin. At a guess, 2003 to 2005, for donations.
  • James Thomas Martin first appears as an Hon Fellow in 2005 (no obvious reason)
• When did Howard Nixon get it? He hadn't got it by 1970 and he died in 1983, if that helps.
  • Granted in Dec 1980 according to his obituary notice in The Record 1983, p. 22-23
• Who is Richard Thornton, and why was he given an HF (at a guess, in the mid-80s)?
  • Richard Chicheley Thornton first appears as an Hon Fellow in The Record 1987
• Similarly, who is Stephen Watkins, and why was he given an HF (at a guess, in about 1992 or 1993)?
  • See above, Prance
• Similarly, who is George Robinson, and why was he given an HF in 2002?
  • First listed as Hon Fellow in The Record 2003: George Robinson, BA (no obvious reason); appears later as George Edward Silvanus Robinson http://www.rateitall.com/i-2063053-george-edward-silvanus-robinson.aspx
• When was David Wilson, Baron Wilson of Tillyorn given his HF? At a guess, late 80s.
  • Lord Wilson first appears as an Hon Fellow in The Record 1987
• Does the Record say why John Betjeman was given an HF in 1974?
  • This is before a complete list of all Fellows is printed: that was the time of the Centenary Appeal and he appears as one of 13 "Friends" in an appeal leaflet. His role within the Victorian Society and his writings on architecture must have been the reasons for an Hon Fellowship. 1975 issue notes that Betjeman, an Hon Fellow has been given an Hon D.Litt. by the University of Dublin.
• Does the Record say why Ronald Reagan was given an HF in 1994? Seems a surprising choice!
  • No mention of why he was chosen; see above, Prance. The Record 2004 prints a half-page obituary notice: Reagan visited Keble in 1992 and was principal guest at a lunch also attended by Lord Jenkins, Chancellor of the University; Hon Fellow from 1994.
• Did the Record print an obituary for Andre de Breyne? He looks as though he should be notable, but I can't find much about him. Any information about his wife/widow Victoria?
  • Probably widow and very aged; certainly appears in Record
    • Obituary of de Breyne in The Record 1998, pp. 29-31 & port. as fp. A Belgian but in Britain since 1914: had a leading role in Standard Industrial Trust Ltd. 1st wife Catherine d. 1971, no children. Notable art collector.
• Did the Record print an obituary for Alfred Hans von Engel (died 1992)? Again, he looks notable, but difficult to find out details for.
  • Funeral address for him (he died 2 October 1991) in The Record 1992 gives 1980 as the date of his Hon Fellowship. Retrospective tribute by Raoul Franklin in The Record 2002, pp. 9-11, explains his family background, etc. (earlier listings for him as Fellow have: Alfred Hans Engel de Janosi)

TUSC token 49abbeb19706a6884f24bac3d5e1dedf

I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bencherlite (talk • contribs) 20:38, 13 July 2009

Where is the page "Katia Tiutiunnik"??? I and others did quite a bit of work on it and it was even rated B on the quality scale??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoldbergEva (talk • contribs) 17:10, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I saw it...

...I saw you trying to sneak it past me... no good I'm afraid, I'll have my say, and will not be silenced.... The Rambling Man (talk) 11:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Ricmond library

It's not too far from work, I may be able to get there next Thursday lunchtime or something if you give me the details. David Underdown (talk) 10:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Goochie

You know, I was just having a look down the century makers to see who I fancied next. Goochie was certainly a consideration! Oh, and check out this file I just found on a good licence from Flickr: File:Muralitharan bowling to Adam Gilchrist.jpg - an actual shot of actual Gilly on his way to an actual ODI ton which is actually mentioned in the actual list... I'll wait for a Commons admin to give it the thumbs up and then probably use that as the lead image instead of the (frankly blurred and pretty awful) current one... Thanks for your review by the way. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Very handy. Thanks! The Rambling Man (talk) 14:52, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Excellent, that works nicely, per File:INZAMAM UL HAQ .jpg. Thanks again. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Nothing bothering me, no! Good idea removing the sortability there. I must do the same for Pizzahouse at some point, your ability to move from Jesus to Nuffield and remain at such a high standard is, well, troubling to say the least! The Rambling Man (talk) 15:55, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, well you say that but, and don't get all la-de-da about it, your writing style is great, interesting and informative at the same time. Gah, I need a shower... The Rambling Man (talk) 16:04, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

If you get a spare ten minutes, could you tell me what you might tell me if I put the McGrath list up at FLC? Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm off out to play poker, lose my shirt etc, so whenever's good for you is good for me. Enjoy the in-laws! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:53, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I saw you made a tweak.. is it any good? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Melangell

Hi Bencherlite. I see Saint Melangell is now Melangell. May I know why she should be changed, and not Saint David or Saint Afan? Not sure I understand the difference. I saw the naming convention ref you listed, but I still am not understanding. Thanks for your help. ~Geaugagrrl ^talk 17:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Succession Box

Hi, a quick look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Succession Box Standardization/Navboxes seems to imply that the succession box WikiProject is looking to eventually phase them out by replacing them with templates...at least that's my reading of the situation! Cheers, GiantSnowman 11:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Acts of Parliament

I've got about 40 articles from the Modern Law Review I can use for 40 articles here, and that's up to '64-ish. I should hit 100 if I push it, plus some rewrites of existing articles and whatever I can find elsewhere. If you feel like chipping in, give me a poke. Thanks for the grammar work on the Coal Act - I often have difficulty with the past and present tenses for repealed acts, and my verb uses is nicht so gut. Ironholds (talk) 19:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

And thanks for the barnstar! You've been a tremendous help with all my efforts, so I've got an offer for you as thanks; are there any political or legal articles where you've gone "that really deserves to be better" but not been able to allocate the time or resources to do anything about it? Pick one, and if it's within my power I'll get it to GA. Ironholds (talk) 22:32, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Holy shit! Who put that up?! Garrow would be fun - I have both of Foss's biographical books, and I can probably pick up that bio listed in the bibliography. I shall add it to my to-do list :). Ironholds (talk) 18:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

As for Inner Temple, deal. I have a Lincoln's Inn draft I was working on that I was forced to quit (literally NO historical books written. I smell an MPhil dissertation in the making) so I can move on to the Inner Temple next, I guess. Ironholds (talk) 18:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Eeeexcellent *purses fingers*. Well, I've got highly important university work to be getting on with, but I'll make a start on your poncy, overrated excuse for an Inn of Court tomorrow morning and leave you a link to the draft :P. Ironholds (talk) 19:17, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

• Also (not sure if I already told you?) John Baker recently solved two of the biggest legal history conundrums by discovering the Outer Temple! Something worth writing eventually. Ironholds (talk) 12:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

  That post got a little rush in the same way that my first featured article did - you have pictures of John Baker and Igor Judge? We don't have images for either of those articles - wonderful! The Selden Society article has been on my to-do list for a while; it really needs redoing. He published a journal article a while back - I have it somewhere in my external "library" - about the Inns of Chancery and the Temples. Essentially Fortescue identified ten Inns of Chancery, but we only know of nine, and while there are Inner and Middle Temples, no Outer Temple has been found. Baker, while leafing through documents for the Oxford History of English Law he's helping out with, found references to an Outer Temple being used as an Inn of Chancery. It didn't have a hall, which is apparently while it didn't survive into Fortescue's time. Two problems neatly solved with one discovery - quite a stroke of luck, really. Ironholds (talk) 12:31, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

  Certainly - a few spelling mistakes and some additional alt-text? Small beans :). I've got an Inner Temple structure set up, I should start populating it this evening. Ironholds (talk) 09:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

  Just a thought - you have access to the Inner Temple library, yes? John Baker (bless his cotton socks) published an Inns of Court bibliography with sections for each specific Inn. If I pull out the Inner Temple bit and send you some of the more modern works, could you have a go at digging them out? Ironholds (talk) 09:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

  Enjoy; don't sue anyone I wouldn't sue, dear. Ironholds (talk) 09:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm was following instructions from someone at Wikipedia

Hi!
I'm sorry but I was merely following the instructions given to me by a person at Wikipedia who was trying to guide me along on the right path to making a comprihensive article! These instructions said I was to have those images uploaded and then I would get assistance for the copyright issues.
Furthermore, there is no copyright control with these images which were obtained from a website called http://www.inthelabyrinth.com Go in and search around yourself if you're in any doubt! But believe me, there are no regulations whatsoever! Kdkwinana (talk) 09:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind thoughts

Ok, thanks for your kind thoughts!
If that other person doesn't return to me I will ask for your assistance. And by the way, someone else informed me earlier today that copyright applies needless if there's a logo putting up prohibitions or not. Copyright issues are always valid, in any degree. Which I think is a good thing even though it's obviously not working that well with all the illegal sharing that's going on out on the web today. Kdkwinana (talk) 13:42, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Architectural Review

I maanged to get tot Richmond today, and have photocopied the article. The quote is kosher. I'll try to scan the photocopies this evening (the page size is slightly odd, which might make it a bit of juggling act), so if you drop me an email, I'll send you the scans. David Underdown (talk) 14:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Can't think of anythign right no, but I'll bear it in mind... David Underdown (talk) 14:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

signature

Thank you so much for devoting your time to wikipedia. I have my own way of giving you a barnstar. Do you want me to make you a custom signature (just look at mine!)? I would be more than happy to.  Btilm  22:03, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK

Wow, that article for a DYK? Nice. Thanks for nominating! Lithium6ion (talk) 03:00, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Master of the Rolls

Just a prod - I think I've dealt with your concerns about this. Thanks, Ironholds (talk) 04:01, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

sorry

Hi! Just wanted to say sorry for my edit at TFA; I hadn't noticed there was a fifth nomination. Cheers, Megata Sanshiro (talk) 10:28, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Four Award

		Four Award
		Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work all through on Buildings of Nuffield College, Oxford.

--María (habla conmigo) 18:55, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Pinacoteca Eduardo Úrculo & Eduardo Úrculo

Hi Bencherlite. I DYK self-nom'd Pinacoteca Eduardo Úrculo (a museum) and Eduardo Úrculo (an artist) in one hook. The DYK credit notice I received from you today was only for the museum. Was the hook changed, removing mention of the artist? Cheers, --Rosiestep (talk) 02:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation and suggestion. I've nom'ed an Eduardo Úrculo hook under 1 November, but any Alt suggestion is fine by me. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:11, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Four Award

As a past WP:FOUR awardee you may wish to comment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Four Award.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Category:Monmouth School Alumni

That's fine by me Bashereyre (talk) 20:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Gilchrist

Hey, thanks for the en-dash thing. I need that script... Could you also check the lead prose once again as it's been changed quite a bit since you supported it? Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Somerset listed buildings

Thanks for the comment on Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Lists of Grade I listed buildings in Somerset/archive1. Would you fancy taking a look at the (stalled) GA nom at Buildings and architecture of Bath?— Rod ^talk 08:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Master of the Rolls

Sorry to bother you, but the FLC work I've done seems to have addressed your concerns. Would you mind taking another look? Other than that my Inner Temple rewrite seems to be going fine; I'll give you a poke when I get everything I have access to dealt with, and a list of useful resources. Not sure if the Library allows you to take them out, though (I'm sure you'll know that better than me). Thanks, Ironholds (talk) 14:42, 10 November 2009 (UTC)