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February 2019

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Max Landis, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page.
You will need to provide a valid citation for your edit, especially because it's an edit about a living person (Biography of a Living Person) and thus comes under a deeper regard of scrutiny. Continuing to edit war about this may see you blocked, and we don't want that. Jorm (talk) 18:49, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

The submission I made was to edit the name for Max Landis. It is currently listed as John Maxwell Landis, though I have confirmed with the subject that is not their birth name. Their birth name is not even Maxwell. However, I did not know or understand that Wikipedia has strict COI implemented guidelines, which make sense. However, I argue that I, being a fan and acquaintance of this subject, could not find evidence of the name John Maxwell Landis anywhere. Not on his work, or in articles about his life. I've never seen him credited as such on IMDB or in any films, including those he was in when he was young, such as his father John Landis's films. As is the policy I just read through, I am requesting that someone else help me to edit this back to where it is correct. I am more than happy to step aside, but I have been unable to find any evidence that his name is John Maxwell Landis, and have only found evidence to the contrary. I feel like this change was made in bad faith in an attempt to connect Landis to his father in a negative way, as both he and his father have relatively negative reputations with the press. If this submission is incorrect as well, that's fine, but this was my last shot. I also was not trying to edit war, which I guess is a thing. I was trying to make an edit in earnest that I felt was appropriate, given the fact that the other name exists nowhere else but wikipedia. There is no citation stating that is his name either, and I argue that the burden of proof shouldn't lay with me, but with whoever changed that submission to begin with. I could find no birth announcement, no articles concerning the subject listing a full birth name that was different than his listed name on all of his credits. I am not hired by Max, but have been in communication since finding this out. Again, I want to clearly state my COI so that this isn't seen as some biased attempt. If that information is wrong, and the subject is lying to me about his name, then please, cite the source that came from and be done with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bfalvey7 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Edit - https://www.californiabirthindex.org/birth/max_landis_born_1985_16909434 There's the only source I could find confirming the Birth name and date. There are also no John Landis names listed after 1971. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bfalvey7 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

The name was already fixed. Birth records should not be used as references (see WP:BLPPRIMARY); while admittedly the mother's maiden name is rare, you technically cannot tell whether the person whose birth record that is (and CaliforniaBirthIndex.org isn't even a state website) is indeed the same Max Landis our article is about. As I also told Jorm, when there's no good source (as in, a reliable secondary source) covering Landis' birth name, the way to go is to remove that birth name outright rather than have some badly-sourced factoid that apparently isn't all that relevant to our readers' understanding of Landis anyway (otherwise reliable sources would have reported on it). Huon (talk) 13:31, 26 February 2019 (UTC)