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He was waived and it has been reported by numerous reliable sources. It's not like he can be pulled off waivers and he is no longer a member of the Bills. On top of this, it is not always reported when someone clears waivers, unless they were claimed. So, the move is official and he is a free agent (well, on waivers, but since he has no team, he is listed as a free agent). Cheers,--Giants27(T|C) 19:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

While that may be true, the "regular" editors of roster templates and player pages here have never followed this "after 4PM thing" because right now, all transactions are official once announced, which means that no matter the deadline, it has gone through. So, please cease reverting articles because it is not after 4PM ET, unless there is a source saying it hasn't happened. If numerous reliable sources are reporting something as done, it is done.--Giants27(T|C) 20:12, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Wow. He was waived, thus he was placed on waivers, so he is no longer a member of the Bills, so based on your argument of being accurate, he should be listed as being on waivers, but since we don't do that, he is listed as being as a free agent, which is far more accurate than listing him as a Bill. I also never said that he cleared waivers, but rather that he was waived. There is no listing that works for describing this in the infobox, other than "Free Agent". Plus, as I said, reliable sources have said that he was waived, not that he cleared waivers, but that he was waived, which is true.--Giants27(T|C) 20:33, 15 August 2011 (UTC)