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Jimmy Dore page Persistent Vandalism/Hit Piece, WP:Project Proposal, and seemingly improper deletion by User:UnitedStatesian

I have taken a keen interest in helping to maintain the Jimmy Dore page.

Why? Well I explain why in detail here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Jimmy_Dore

In a nutshell, I believe that Jimmy Dore is an important figure of our time, as a comedian, pundit/political commentator, media critic, political strategist, progressive, and anti-war voice. Yet, Jimmy's entry here looks like a hit piece. Any favorable information is instantly reverted, while smears are left standing. There seems to be an organized effort to vandalize his page.

I created this WP:Project in order to improve Wikipedia by making Jimmy's entry look more like an encyclopedia article, similar to Lenny Bruce, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, George Carlin, Bill Hicks, Frank Zappa, or Banksy (artists most similar to JD).

Notice this project was deleted by UnitedStatesian (talk) (a non-admin? how?) who added this snarky comment,

>> "The proposed WikiProject was not created; the proposer does not understand the function and purpose of WikiProjects"

Oh really? I spent several hours studying the docs before I created the page. Additionally, I have been a WP editor for 17 years. That kind of remark is utterly offensive, juvenille, disrespectful, and completely inappropriate.

I would caution UnitedStatesian that comments which berate another WP Editor, instead of dispassionately discussing the edit, are inappropriate and may denote bullying. See, WP:BULLY, which states:

>> Doing so violates Wikipedia's civility policy which states that "even a single act of severe incivility could result in a block..."

Note this deletion was less than 48 hours after Kingsif (talk) filed a single OPPOSE vote. He said:

• Oppose You're wanting to make a project just to focus improvements on one article, where the main concern is BLP. Just go to the Biographies WikiProject and ask for help. Kingsif (talk) 16:59, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

I was not given the opportunity to respond.

I have limited time in a day. I don't always log in to WP every day.

I have no interest in joining a WikiProject about BLPs or Biographies in general.

I proposed a Jimmy Dore Project page SPECIFICALLY, because that is my interest. Not only is Jimmy Dore immensely popular, but topics he covers are at an intersection of ideas I am also interested in: Political Dysfunction of the Left in Modern America, Corporate Media Criticism, War & Peace, Censorship, etc.

There are *potentially* a dozen pages which might mention Jimmy Dore (see pages which mention Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Bill Hicks for example, arguably artists most similar to Dore). However any edits which attempt to add important biographical information about Jimmy Dore on WP are met with speedy reverts, including by the notorious meta-User:Philip Cross, known to vandalize pages of prominent anti-war voices. This seems to be an organized effort.

There is at least one WP:Project proposal with a focus on a single artist: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Justin_Bieber

There are at least 20 WP:Project pages with a focus on a single living artist, or noteworthy person:

Bob Dylan, Billie Eilish, Beyoncé,Demi Lovato, Donald Trump, Dua Lipa, Gwen Stefani, Janet Jackson, Jennifer Lopez, Joe Biden, Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson, Lady Gaga, Miley Cyrus, Meghan Trainor, Madonna, Shakira,Taylor Swift, Brandy, Ariana Grande

These WP:Project pages are devoted to Deceased Persons

Frank Sinatra, Leibniz

These WP:Project pages are devoted to a fictional person:

Sherlock Holmes, Doctor Who, James Bond, King Arthur (arguably fictional)

And there there is this:

Wikipedia:WikiProject_RuPaul's_Drag_Race

I can see no Wikipedia:Project criteria which was violated. I have checked here: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council, Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-01/WikiProject_report, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Guide

None of the criteria mentioned at "Under what circumstances are WikiProjects deleted from Wikipedia rather than marked as defunct or historical?" in Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-04-01/WikiProject_report have been met, especially since this was only a PROPOSAL.

The article was not moved to my namespace as suggested by WP:REVIVE.

I was not notified as required by WP:SPEEDY, nor was WP:SPEEDY followed as far as I can tell.

I was not given sufficient time to obtain the support of "at least 6 to 12 active Wikipedians" as suggested by Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Guide#Proposing_a_project as a criteria for a project to succeed.

In fact, this same page says the following:

>> projects that are likely to succeed tend to start with at least 6 to 12 active Wikipedians. Once that threshold is reached, the proposal can be considered successful and the project created (see below). If there is insufficient support to start the project after a few months....

"A few Months?" My project was up for ~48 HOURS!

Additionally, Template:Archived_WikiProject_Proposal_notcreated says this:

>> After a WikiProject Proposal has run for three months, it is archived to make room for new proposals.

Thus, I have asked UnitedStatesian on his (talk) page to restore my Wikipedia Project Proposal, since it appears his deletion was hasty. --Bill Huston ^(talk) 10:20, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Team Two

Hey, I would like to help with Team Two or wherever I can. I use Wikipedia frequently, but even though I made this account in 2015, I just checked and I haven't edited a page yet! A few years ago, I was active in a private forum that had it's own internal wiki, one that was very similar to Wikipedia's functionality and structure. On that wiki, I made hundreds of edits while working in a project on the history of the forum. But it's been awhile now, so I'll have to re-familiarize myself a little. I saw on your user page that you had proposed a Jimmy project and it was archived. Did UnitedStatesian respond to you? I checked on his page and couldn't find anything, not even in the revision history...

Also, are you familiar with the Grayzone? If not, you'd be interested in knowing what they have dealt with; especially since I saw that the other user who commented on your proposal (kingsif) works on the Venezuela project. Maybe it's a small world at Wikipedia after all! Bdflaw1 (talk) 09:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society

Dear Bhuston,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more. Additionally, if I may speak on behalf of the WikiProject Buddhism community, congratulations on this milestone. It is heartwarming to see you as an active user after all these years. Take good care, my friend. Namo Buddhaya!​

Best regards, Usedbook (talk) 18:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)