User talk:Bluebolt94/Archive 4

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Rob Grayson.jpg

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Speedy deletion declined: Dawn Acton

Hello GSorby. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Dawn Acton, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 02:29, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Help!

Okay i've been talking to Nick Wilton who's actually a member of Wikipeida. His name on Wikipeida is User talk:Nickwilton001. We've been talking but I need your help on a question he's asked me,Thanks! MayhemMario 16:20, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

• To be honest Mario, I reckon that's you. GSorby - Talk! 15:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, what? Your saying that's me, sigh.... Always accusing me... It's not, so dont go there. Now can you see if you can help? And why would I now stuff about Nick Wilton's 1st wife, that isnt even on any references? MayhemMario 16:52, 7 June 2011 (UTC

• Well considering you've made other accounts claiming to someone else, what do you expect? GSorby - Talk! 16:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

You know, no one's ever been that nice to me on here have they? I thought you were one of the exceptions. You know they werent me, and i know they werent. And anyway in the investigation i was blocked for ONE differnet account, not several. Now can you help or not? MayhemMario 17:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

• Mario, I have not been disrespectful to you in anyway. No I can't help, sorry. GSorby - Talk! 16:10, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, just got a bit annoyed over everything, no seriously i'm sorry, i didnt mean it. Thanks for the help anyway, i appreciate it.MayhemMario 17:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I think it is you too. I wouldn't put it past you to sit and talk to yourself.Rain the 1 ^BAM 16:17, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

IT ISNT! Please i'm saying now, it isn't! What does 'I wouldn't put it past you to sit and talk to yourself' mean? MayhemMario 17:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

• He means it wouldn't surprise him if you'd sat and talked to yourself. GSorby - Talk! 16:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Well thats nice. Thanks. I dont think that's a 'LOL' moment either. MayhemMario 17:25, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

So do you knwo anyone who could help me with the Nick Wilton's picture? MayhemMario 19:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

• None of us own a picture of him so we can;t add one. GSorby - Talk! 19:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

no,no,no!!! Wilton (suppossingly) said this, I own the photo on the home page of my .com website but really struggled with converting it from jpeg and gave up, but am happy for it to go on this page. If you can do it for me I'm happy for that. How do I make it licence free for you? How do I reply to that? Sorry for not making it clear. MayhemMario 20:04, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mario, hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he would need to either upload the picture himself here, or send an email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org, saying that he agrees to release the image under a free license, eg. CC-BY-SA-3.0. Frickative 19:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

okay.... That's confusing, can you explain more?MayhemMario 20:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, what's confusing about it? Frickative 19:48, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

So i've got to get Nick to email permissions-en@wikimedia.org and say he gives permission to use a photo of his website under free use? MayhemMario 20:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

(←) Aha, here we go, I knew there was a guide somewhere. Here and here are the relevant sections that explain it in detail. Frickative 19:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh those are handy links :-) Never seen them before! –anemoneprojectors– 20:23, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay this is what i' going to send him, tell me if anyhthings wrong:

Okay this is what you got to do. I think. Send this message,

I hereby affirm that [CHOOSE ONE: I, (name here) am OR (copyright holder's name) is] the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of [SPECIFY THE WORK HERE - describe the work to be released in detail, attach the work to the email or give the URL of the work if online]

I agree to [STANDARD CHOICE; SEE BELOW FOR MORE INFORMATION ON TYPE OF LICENSE: publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).]

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be attributed to me.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

[SENDER'S NAME AND DETAILS (to allow future verification of authenticity)] [SENDER'S AUTHORITY (Are you the copyright-holder, director, appointed representative of, etc.)] [DATE]

to permissions-en@wikimedia.org saying you allow Wikipeida to use the image under free license e.g. CC-BY-SA-3.0. If you dont get it just ask me. MayhemMario 16:21, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Eddie Moon image

Hey, do you have an image of Eddie Moon? His reception section totally justifies a photo, as long as it includes his "smart, black three-piece [suit] and a white button-down collar shirt" :-) –anemoneprojectors– 16:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

• Oi oi! You must KNOW by now that you I always have an image :-) With pleasure GSorby - Talk! 16:45, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

It's true, he always does! MayhemMario 17:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

• How's that AP? GSorby - Talk! 16:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

It kind of looks like his face is melting in that picture! That's a picture from when he was reading the newspaper, isn't it? Do you have one from yesterday's episode, when he was wearing that suit? Having more of his outfit as described in the reception section in the picture would help it to pass the NFCC. –anemoneprojectors– 17:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Just making sure you didn't miss this ^^^ –anemoneprojectors– 19:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

You still haven't answered this... The rationale can be strengthened, a la Vanessa Gold, if you do this. –anemoneprojectors– 16:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I know you percifically said AP, but it looks good! Why report me, I didnt do anything! MayhemMario 17:53, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

*Well if you haven't done anything, stop panicking! If you haven't done nothing, you can relax okay? GSorby - Talk! 16:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, calm ,calm, calm, im literally in tears here! MayhemMario 17:59, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Mario! Please don't cry. You're making me feel guilty. I hope the user isn't you because then you will be blocked. And that can't be nice. You want to be on Wikipedia. Remember though, you can request an unblock. By the way, I love this new word "percifically"! –anemoneprojectors– 17:03, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I dont want to make you feel guilty, it's not your fault. I'm just a rabbit in the headlights and I cant get out. I new as soon as that user came on here I should have said 'no' but Nick's so intresting telling me these things, I couldnt stop myself. One ting I want to say, Thanks a lot AP for all your help, you've been a true friend ( I like the woprd too!).MayhemMario 18:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Well to be fair you have had the benefit of the doubt as far as I'm concerned. That was when you swore blind the other user was not you and it turned out to be you. If you lied about that, why not again. Also crying is a little dramatic don't you think. Like George said, if it isn't you, there is nothing to worry about. Then you will get an apology I'm sure.Rain the 1 ^BAM 17:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but that's my emotions. I cant help it. Though thanks for making the remark about talking to myself, i really needed that.MayhemMario 18:36, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

That is fine. I said it because you also came online via your IP to speak about yourself in third person.Rain the 1 ^BAM 17:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Raintheone makes a good point, sorry. GSorby - Talk! 17:41, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

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Images

I just noticed that you gave a friendly to EllieLucy about her image uploads - probably best to give her warnings as she is ignorant and doesn't respond. She needs reporting IMO.Rain the 1 ^BAM 15:11, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I have reported her for being a sockpuppet of Dude95. She is making the same edits as that account did and Dude 95 has had about 4 accounts and they've all been blocked. S/he just wants to vandalise and ignore us. Oh well, s/he ain't worth it :P GSorby - Talk! 15:13, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow. See I am so poor at spotting these sock puppets. Good work if it checks out. :)Rain the 1 ^BAM 15:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Saying that, I'm a bit of a snitch, I've reported loads of socks O.O lol GSorby - Talk! 15:23, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Not as many as me. ;) - JuneGloom Talk 16:27, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

True! Aswell guys if you notice her change the layout styles for articles other than Eastenders, can you revert her? Rain the 1 ^BAM 16:31, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh look, he's been blocked. Yay - I could hug you! I was actually getting pretty angry and impatient on Ellielucy talk page, I was certainly on the verge of using a personal attack.Rain the 1 ^BAM 18:20, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Images (2)

I think the old revision of Micheal Moon is better and 2) [1] if you type in Lacey turner a much better picture of her comes up which I think we should use on the article.MayhemMario 18:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Michael's image has more face than the previous revision and I don't know a thing about free-images, you'll have to ask somebody else, sorry. GSorby - Talk! 17:21, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I guess so... Thanks anyway! Have you seen the bouncing Wikipeida icon on my userpage? It's so COOL!MayhemMario 18:22, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I was like.....okay then... :-) GSorby - Talk! 17:23, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

LOL!MayhemMario 18:26, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the Lacey image and upload it to Commons if everything is okay. - JuneGloom Talk 18:17, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Done - File:Lacey Turner 2010.jpg. - JuneGloom Talk 18:30, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, i've changed it from the other one as the other one was really bad, this one is great.MayhemMario 20:34, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Also, can you add the promo pics for Manda and Dotty? Manda needs it to explain her 'hippy clothes' and bike thingy so it would be great if you could do that, Dotty needs hers for her 'pigtails' and etc!MayhemMario 21:15, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Dotty doesn't need one, I'll give Manda a go. GSorby - Talk! 20:16, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, maybe a example [2]?MayhemMario 21:18, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

That's the one I'm using :-) GSorby - Talk! 20:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Greg Jessop

I've got the Stefan Booth interview out of Inside Soap so I thought I'd leave you the few questions with potential to use.

Who would win a fight between Greg and Max? It depends what Greg's fighting for, and if his life depended on it. But Greg would do his best to avoid fisticuffs. If he had to fight over anything, it would definitely be over Tanya, or their love together. That's one thing he'd step up for.

What was your EastEnders audition like? It was fun, but I didn't expect to get the job at all. I usually go in expecting the worst, then if anything happens it's great. That tends to keep me relaxed. I really love EastEnders, so I suppose the idea of landing the job was just so brilliant I couldn't pin all my hopes on getting it, or I'd of been a nervous wreck!

Is it good playing a nice guy, or are you hoping Grag's dark side will surface? Greg's tough, but gentle. He's fundamentally a nice guy, and it's rare to get that in a soap. He seems very straightforward, so it's refreshing for Tanya to have that influence in her life.

Inside Soap, 14-20 May 2011, issue 19, "Stefan Booth is at your mercy" pages 50-51.Rain the 1 ^BAM 11:16, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Very helpful, thanks! ;-) GSorby - Talk! 12:40, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

GSorby you need to find some reception! Or else!! (evil laugh) MayhemMario 18:50, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Nobody needs to do anything. If there's no reception, it can't be found. If it's not split off, it's not the end of the world. Not everything needs a separate article! You're acting like you want everything split off. –anemoneprojectors– 22:18, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Yo George, I'm sure there will be something in the Jaci Stephen's Daily Mail column and perhaps the free library archive - that has some reception info.Rain the 1 ^BAM 22:34, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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Edits to Tracey

As you can see Tracey (EastEnders) has been updated by you. Now was that your info or mine? hm.... It seems like you've copied all MY info from MY sandbox without you asking. I hadnt finished! But i'll add more to it some other time. But if im wrong, sorry! Also you've just copied my sandbox of Rob Grayson too, it' kinda obvious as you've got a old ref on there which i got, but was deleted! One other thing, look here and under 'To-do List' Just saying, try and cover your tracks up more! ;) MayhemMario 16:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

No, I wasn't trying to hide I copied from your sandbox. AP said not to make edits to your sandbox and to add edits to the article instead. So I thought why not implement what you've already got. Plus, I don't think it matters. I wanted to have the boxes you had. That was only temp, as it says in the title. GSorby - Talk! 16:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I wasnt having a go at you, just asking. ;) Oh and I thought 'temp' means 'temperature'! It's fien by the way.MayhemMario 17:43, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Not stalking my subpages are we ;) ? GSorby - Talk! 16:57, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

June 2011

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Miss-use of rollback like what you did on David Platt (Coronation Street) will result in its removal. ΔT _{^{The only constant}} 17:35, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh leave it please. It's a measly image. Just end this. GSorby - Talk! 17:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I changed the rationale and added it back. Triangle and Hammersoft, you were a little harsh to GSorby. Asume good faith in future, as this editor clearly has the article's best interests at heart..RaintheOne ^BAM 18:40, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

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Stella

Thank you for uploading the image on Stella's article, mine wasn't very good at all. :)--AcidBrights (talk) 16:57, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Not a problem at all :-) This one's only temporary, until I can get a better one. If you need an image for a Corrie or EastEnders article, feel free to ask me. I will be helping on Stella's article too GSorby - Talk! 17:02, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah thats great! Do you like the article?--AcidBrights (talk) 17:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for butting in, but yes it is a good article, well done! MayhemMario 18:01, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Very well written and condensed. Well done :-) GSorby - Talk! 18:15, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both.--AcidBrights (talk) 18:20, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi again, i've noticed we have a problem on Stella's article, the user who is keep removing rochdale. I wish they would just leave it, it is a vital part of her backstory and should be left. What do you think we should do about it?--AcidBrights (talk) 20:56, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey there AcidBrights, in my opinion, the user needs reporting as he has ignored warnings and keeps reverting me. I can't revert him again as I've made three already, can't cause an edit war! I'll tell AnemoneProjectors tomorrow until then just let the baby have his bottle ;) GSorby - Talk! 21:13, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok :)--AcidBrights (talk) 07:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

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Comments...

like this - [3] - are really not needed and they are certainly not helpful. The user was blocked and that's it. Keep an eye on the Osman articles and if he returns again, it might be worth opening an SPI. Okay, now I'm going to do some work, the to-do list won't get any shorter if I'm just lurking. Nice work with Yusef btw. :) - JuneGloom Talk 17:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

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Keep hold of this image for future, if you can please. I know this sounds horrible, but if Chasen dies we can use that image for her article. Also you can use that image of MT playing Lydia for her article as she has sadly passed away. MayhemMario 19:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

An image of Margaret in The Forsyte Saga would be better for her article, as a lot of people associate her with that role. I am currently trying to find a free image of her though.- JuneGloom Talk 19:44, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't think we can...it's copyrighted by the BBC ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 19:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

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EE Newsleter June 2011

Hi just asking if you want this newsletter. If not tell me, if yes tell me! MayhemMario 15:14, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

WP:EE June 2011 Newsletter

The WikiProject EastEnders Newsletter Volume 1 - June 2011
Project news Welcome to the new EE newsletter! This is a new thing that I am trying out, so make sure once it's out, give me feedback! If you want to recieve the newsletter, just tell me on my userpage. We are looking for new editors for the newsletter for future issues. If you are interested in helping shape the newsletter to focus on new areas or submit individual stories, we can use your help! The newsletter can be edited by all members of the project, and we are always seeking new volunteers. Instructions will be provided on how to develop the newsletter each month. Any interest and/or questions can be submitted to MayhemMario. One EE article is available for review at WP:GAN. This is Yusef Khan. As members of this project are more familiar with WP:EE guidelines for EE articles, input at these reviews can be helpful for determining if they meet all good criteria. Other articles can also be found at WP:PR looking for helpful comments. Based on views, the top five most popular character articles from our project this month were: Mandy Salter, Syed Masood, Tanya Branning, Ronnie Mitchell, and Janine Butcher. For a list of our project's top 500 most popular articles, see here. Consider helping to improve one of these articles that is seen by thousands to millions of people each month. Remember to always add the {{WikiProject EastEnders|class=}} template to a EE article's talk page so the project can get a better idea of what work still needs to be done. If you believe that an article should be assessed at a certain class assess the article yourself (it's not too difficult to determine the basic classes such as stubs, categories, or lists). Spotlight Update: One EE article has reached GA status in June 2011. Dotty Cotton - Nominated by MayhemMario Member news The recipient of the WikiProject EE Award: was GunGagdinMoan for adding sources to past EastEnders characters. Remember that any editor can give the WikiProject EE Award to another WP:EE member. If you do present this award, please make mention of it here or tell one of the newsletter editors who will then include it in the next issue. Please add your name to the member list if you have not already.	EastEnders Cast Changes June's Departing Cast : Ryan Malloy Julie Perkins Greg Jessop June's Returning Cast: Mandy Salter June's Future Cast: Lola Pearce Andrew From the editors If you've just joined, add your name to the Wikipedia:WikiProject EastEnders. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered to your userpage. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy! Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 7 – July 2011). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing! Newest Articles Dotty Cotton Manda Best Michael Moon (EastEnders) Rainie Cross Kim Fox Jodie Gold Contributors to this issue MayhemMario (Lead Editor, Distributor)
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A cup of tea for you!

so we can put our first little dispute behind us and start again:), Thank you forthe Barnster:) Crazyfishsticks (talk) 20:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Causing a dispute with a new member? Tut tut. Some people... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ted Crilly Windowsill (talk • contribs) 10:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey

Hey - your pretty good with the net. You know how News of the World is closing. Just an idea, but you could archive some useful Eastenders links from them, as if it is deleted it would be a shame to lose so much info. I've been adding some for other soaps in my sandbox, but I can't realistically save em all. lolRaintheOne ^BAM 23:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Argh I know!! As soon as I heard that NoW was closing down I thought "Wikipedia is gonna have some F*** ups!". Yeh I'll do that Rain. It'd be a killer to find all of them though :-) ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 23:51, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Great. :) Where are you saving the links btw? I've done a few but focused more on Corrie and Hollyoaks. Just look into my "Archive Links" sandbox too see.RaintheOne ^BAM 12:16, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I must've missed this!! I'll be storing them in a subpage :) ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 16:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay link me to it when it's set up. I wonder if the website will go down on Sunday? Atleast there is some notice for this though, as Holy Soap just went down within an hour.RaintheOne ^BAM 16:50, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I doubt the website will go altogether and it won't be going this weekend. - JuneGloom Talk 18:17, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Well neither of us no what will happen or when. Can't imagine them keeping the website open when they are ending the brand. Certainly better to be safe than sorry though.RaintheOne ^BAM 19:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

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Repost of Mia McKenna Bruce

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Look AP warned me when I put it on my t-d-l that it could be deleted, that's why I never started it. I'm to busy with other things right now than tis article. MayhemMario 15:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

-.- ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 15:29, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

..... MayhemMario 15:31, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Any point of dots? ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 15:32, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

No i meant I dont understand what -.- means, sorry. MayhemMario 15:34, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

It means something is boring me. I think your old enough to figure out what that is. ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 15:35, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Your being quite rude to me, this is a different side to you i've never seen. :( You've called me 'boring' and told me to 'grow up' for doing nothing, please explain, Thanks. MayhemMario 15:37, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Well let me start, and being rude was not my intention. So to start. You showed up on Wikipedia (and no I'm not trying to get rid of you) and you're acting like you've been here longer than me. Sorry but I just can't stand nice guys. You complain to me that I copy stuff from your userpage but still you don't mention you pinched it from Raintheone!! You copy everything I do as well. Such as the online/offline icon on the user pages and you started to use the outdent template when I started using it. I know it sounds childish but it really grips my nerves when people copy everything I do. What next? You'll probably be copying my signature! Everyone prefers you to me, I can quite clearly see you've taken my place. ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 15:47, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Right I didnt reliaze you felt like that. :( I have a lot of respect for you, and no way does everyone prefer me to you. I know I dont! I mean what I have I done so remarkable? Im really sorry if I upset you and I know you are NICE! MayhemMario 15:54, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh and outdent signaute wa sfound whilst I was looking thorugh the Roald Dahl pages and Status/ thing was from you, :) MayhemMario 15:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, maybe I was a bit harsh then. I go off the rails sometimes :L ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 16:02, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Mario, you know I thought you copied my layout. I removed the colour from my page to compare - Ended up liking it plain, so now we have similiar user pages. Not that it even matters though.. Oh and Georgio, I think you know who is prefered. ;) Though, I would like a reply to my earlier comment, or I may have to rethink that. :pRaintheOne ^BAM 16:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I liked the way you had it! It's a compliment! And of course im your favourite user (cough) :) MayhemMario 17:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For your amazing edits to Ann Mitchell, you never told me about that! MayhemMario 11:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

There's only two sources for her EE role and the page is nearly unreferenced throughout....RaintheOne ^BAM 12:46, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Gimme a while. I'm working on a huge edit for her and will implement it soon. ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 12:47, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Well you can have this for when it you finish to! MayhemMario 12:52, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello!

See for the edit that Brianwazere made to your userpage about 20 minutes ago, would you like me to delete that revision from the public archives?

I've just protected Raintheones pages, would you like your user and talk page semi-protected for say a month?--5 albert square (talk) 23:36, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes please. I would like my pages semi-p'ed please and yes please do delete that revision. Thank you 5AS :-) ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 10:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

 Done both pages protected for a month as Brian's current IPs are blocked for one and two weeks. I've also semi move protected them both indefinitely as well so that way if another IP of Brian's comes by and finds it can't edit the page, he can't have fun another way!--5 albert square (talk) 14:22, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

That's good news. Thanks 5 albert square :-) ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 14:24, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi just noticed this edit to Manda Best yesterday, seems like Brain, I think. Here it is [4] MayhemMario 15:51, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

You would think people would have better things to do with their time wouldn't you :L? ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 16:11, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

;) MayhemMario 16:11, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

LOL Mario! Did you really mean to call him Brain?! I doubt it! Anyway IP now blocked, also locked Manda's page for a month due to Brian saying he won't stop. Sadly I can't range block him just yet because other people using the same range are making useful edits to the encyclopedia, so the only thing I can do is block the IPs as and when they pop up and lock the articles. Why on earth did they do away with pending changes for the mainstream articles?! *sigh*--5 albert square (talk) 18:17, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

He has made labelling someone as a homosexual be seen as "Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material". So the sooner he goes for good - the better for Wikipedia.RaintheOne ^BAM 18:48, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

What does he expect to achieve?! That's my only question! GSorby - Talk! 19:23, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Guys, please read WP:DENY and WP:RBI and take on the advice. - JuneGloom Talk 20:28, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Agreed with what June says.--5 albert square (talk) 21:05, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Honey Mitchell

Can you revert Honey's image to the old revison? The one now reminds me of a picture from Roald Dahl's book The Witches, thanks. MayhemMario 16:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Sigh... ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 16:56, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! :) So what's next for you? MayhemMario 17:00, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Also as I know you love Ann Mitchell and Cora Cross, here's another interview with BK, you may like some of the info, here a bit:

In a recent interview with Inside Soap, you revealed that Ann Mitchell will be reprising her role as Cora Cross. Can you tell us any more about this?

With the loss of Barbara Windsor, I was keen to find a new matriarch for the show, and Ann Mitchell is a dream booking. I've always been a fan of her work, and with the storyline we've got planned, we'll wonder how we ever did without Cora.

The link is here: [5] MayhemMario 17:03, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that! GSorby - Talk 17:04, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

You've changed your singature? I thought that interview would eb good, could even put a pic of Barbara Winsdor to show that Bk wanted another matruarch! Hope it helps! MayhemMario 17:21, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Another thing you know I made this edit to your useprage, [6] well when you done your revamp you've reinserted the thing I changed (It says your name is BurningClean), hope I helped! MayhemMario 17:24, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

bolded on the MayhemMario 16:28, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah never noticed that! It doesn't matter does it? Is it bothering you that much? lol GSorby - Talk! 16:30, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

A little birdy told me your going to be an administrator! Good luck! I was just wondering, can I write a statement of my opinion? Just asking, it'll be a good one! :) MayhemMario 16:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah you can make a comment [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/GSorby_3 here[ Thanks! GSorby - Talk! 16:59, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

my opinions down. You've got a few questions down to answer, i dont undersatnd half of them,(simple me) MayhemMario 17:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Your RFA

I am sorry that your RFA went the way it did, and I hope you don't take it personally. If you continue to contribute to the project in a positive fashion, I am confident that you would be able to submit a successful RfA in the future. You may wish to consider applying for an evaluation by other Wikipedia editors for feedback on how to obtain the necessary experience. Once you are ready to request adminship again, there is a great admin coaching program available, as well as a guide to requests for adminship.

If you have any other questions about becoming an administrator, please don't hesitate to ask me. Good luck! Reaper Eternal (talk) 17:40, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I admire your enthusiasm but you really need more experience in admin related areas. As this was your third attempt, there's probably not much advice I can offer, except that there is no rush for you to be an admin - just keep up the good work with your general editing and leave it a fair while longer before trying again. You will almost certainly find this advice page interesting, and if you have any questions you can ask me too. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:49, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

You know my paragraph I did for you, was it good enough? You've never said anthting about it.... MayhemMario 17:01, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Ronnie-Branning 2007 (EastEnders).jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Ronnie-Branning 2007 (EastEnders).jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Frickative 22:46, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: File Move

Thanks. I have another one. I would've tagged it earlier, but we had storms, and I had to shut down my internet access. ----DanTD (talk) 18:23, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

 Done that! Your welcome :-) GSorby - Talk! 18:38, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Yo Bro

Hello there George - Did you archive any NOTW EE links? ^_^ RaintheOne ^BAM 14:04, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

(Slaps forehead) I totally forgot!! Anyway...it's very unlikely they'll shut the website down no? GSorby - Talk! 18:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

It's already gone. - JuneGloom Talk 19:14, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

It's fine as I knew you wouldn't. It's EastEnders that lost out on any of the in depth interviews they did. I did as many as I could manage, for all the soaps though. (It is quite a boring thing to do) lolRaintheOne ^BAM 21:53, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Am im being stupid but why is Dan Sullivan (EastEnders) picture named this? MayhemMario 17:45, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

It's the name of the actor...it doesn't particularly matter. GSorby - Talk! 18:07, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey George - Could you find a nice picture of Julie Carp please?RaintheOne ^BAM 19:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes! I saw a nice one of her in fact. Give me a sec :-) GSorby - Talk! 19:49, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Groovy beans. Where do you find them?RaintheOne ^BAM 19:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I capture them through ITV player, but I stream them in HD. GSorby - Talk! 19:54, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

That is how I used to get Corrie ones - but don't think they did HD then. I just need to get a crack on with cleaning the article up now. I swear it is the worst article I've ever created.RaintheOne ^BAM 19:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, do either of you know where Mario is? - JuneGloom Talk 20:00, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

No idea, how come?RaintheOne ^BAM 20:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I think he has a couple of GA reviews outstanding and I was just wondering if he had mentioned going on a break or going on holiday to someone. - JuneGloom Talk 21:05, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

How's that Rain? I'll help you with that article too. And June, sorry I ain't seen him either, sorry GSorby - Talk! 21:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Yusef Khan

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Speedy deletion nomination of Tony Discipline

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See the guidelines for specific types of articles: biographies, websites, bands, or companies. Bagheera (talk) 21:07, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Yusef Khan

The article Yusef Khan you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Yusef Khan for comments about the article. Well done! Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 11:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	You're a star the way you have been working to add sources and real world info to the EE character articles. Just wanted to say, it's appreciated :) GunGagdinMoan 17:35, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh thank you! It's nice to know it's being acknowledged :-) GSorby - Talk! 17:38, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Rob Minter

The reception section you added reads like it's been directly copied and pasted. That's a copyright violation, unless the text was released under a free licence in the first place, which I doubt. Please re-write this section, instead of just copying and pasting entire chunks from sources. Quotes are fine, but the bits in between need amending. Thanks. –anemoneprojectors– 13:19, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

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Question

Why did you revert me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrahamCrusty (talk • contribs) 13:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. It was wrong so I thought I'd revert it back to the last safe revision. Feel free to revert me if you disagree :-) GSorby - Talk! 14:16, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

What was wrong about it? - GrahamCrusty 17:26, 24 August 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrahamCrusty (talk • contribs)

Bye!

		The Special Barnstar
		You were a true friend. Really. I hope we meet again. You can if you wish contact me at the DS forums. Tell everyone that. Thanks. ^___^ MayhemMario 13:49, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh going again? Where are you off to Mario? :'( GSorby - Talk! 13:50, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Not that far actually! Just over the road (DS Forums). I'm putting a lot more effort into that. See you there sometime! Oh and when i was talking about Rainie Cross- i wanted you to do that, :) MayhemMario 14:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Mandy Salter

Hey, Do you think we could argue for the use of one of the new promo photos in Mandy's article? The article references her skimpy outfits, so that could be the justification. What u think? GunGagdin^Moan 12:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I'll try and get one that fits the description and update the rationale. Gimme a sec :-) GSorby – Ping! 17:56, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that and the Tiff one. Longshot, but do you have access to a promo of Sue Osman? i'd love to get one of her serving in the caff and there used to be one, but I cant find it online, and you are the man that can :) GunGagdin^Moan 18:35, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi guys, did a bit of digging for you, and found this: http://images.wikia.com/eastenders/images/5/5b/SuOsman.jpg, there is also this:http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-34-sbyIGAsw/TbGYDRrREnI/AAAAAAAAJao/ZBN-XzTZwCc/s1600/ali-and-sue-osman.jpg (and the same pic on the Daily Mirror site) Hope I helped! :) MayhemMario 15:09, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Mario is still here? :)RaintheOne ^BAM 15:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

popping in and out. :) MayhemMario 15:22, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mario, yes it's the first one I want. The original picture has more of Sue visible, pouring tea. The one you linked to has been heavily cropped and I wondered if George had the uncropped version. Thanks for the help though :) GunGagdin^Moan 23:08, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes I do have one. I'm rooting for it now GSorby – Ping! 23:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Darren

Hey. Can you try and get a nice new 2011 image of sexy Darren Miller before he scoots off?RaintheOne ^BAM 14:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Haha, I shall do my best ;) GSorby – Ping! 14:52, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

List of Coronation Street characters

I'm telling you now that I think some editors are going to be very unhappy about the change you just made to the list. Now I assume you were being WP:BOLD, so if your edit is reverted/changed, then take it to the talk page immediately and discuss it (WP:BRD). This is just advice, as I was once bold with a cast list and it caused an edit war between two other editors! - JuneGloom Talk 19:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Rachel Bright

Please do not revert changes made by OTRS agents in their official capacity when you're explicitely asked not to. We never make controversial edits and "hide" them behind the OTRS seal. This is a purely factual matter; if you have any doubts about its veracity, you should contact an administrator with OTRS access. Again, you are asked not to make any changes to this edit, Thank you! Asav | Talk (Member of the OTRS Volunteer Response Team) 12:39, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Okay I apologise. But you didn't cite a source, and the previous edit did. GSorby – Ping! 12:40, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

No need to apologize! Normally, you'd be absolutely right in doing so (even though the previous source was a bit dodgy), but OTRS and Office action matters are the two areas on WP where we sometimes waive up-front verifiabilty. Asav | Talk (Member of the OTRS Volunteer Response Team) 12:53, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

PS. You seem to be doing a great job!

Oh I see! Yes, I must admit that findmypast is a bit iffy. GSorby – Ping! 12:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Isn't it better to just remove the information instead of replacing it with unverified information? What does the OTRS say? How do we know it's genuine? I've removed it. –anemoneprojectors– 13:40, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

I replied on your user page.Asav | Talk (Member of the OTRS Volunteer Response Team) 19:34, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

No you didn't, you said the same thing to me that you already said here. –anemoneprojectors– 13:52, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Just popped in to say hi! MayhemMario 10:16, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

You blanked your user page, you are not leaving are you? :/RaintheOne ^BAM 15:30, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

No, no, don't worry, I'd never leave! GSorby – Ping! 15:33, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm so glad! I never want you to leave. :)RaintheOne ^BAM 15:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

I'll look now and add what I find. :)RaintheOne ^BAM 23:31, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Cheers bud! GSorby – Ping! 08:00, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Wow your an absolute star! Thank you!GSorby – Ping! 08:21, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Tis okay. I wanted to find more, but I think you already have the core sources. I was shocked that Jaci Stephen from the Daily Mail hasn't said anything about him tho.RaintheOne ^BAM 14:41, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

I thought I already replied to you! I didn't :o - Anyway, I did want to say it was fine for the most part apart from the reception - AP commented on it, I would have just used what Sarah Ellis said about him. More so - I adore the picture you found, hes such a hottie.RaintheOne ^BAM 17:04, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Haha! I've had that screenshot for a while and thought I'd use it for his article when he had one :-) GSorby – Ping! 17:31, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Did you appear in Corrie? lol [7]RaintheOne ^BAM 23:30, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

I did for one episode. Once I've finished my exams in performing arts I can hire an agent and get on EE finally... GSorby – Ping! 10:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I've come here to give you something, but noticed this! Go for it, I did drama and theatre, but I'd much prefer a Hollyoaks role. Anyway [8] - Inside Soap, (Hearst Magazines UK) - issue 42, 22 - 28 october 2011, it is a pull out magazine titled "Secrets of the Moons"RaintheOne ^BAM 14:03, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

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Sorry

For giving me some constructive critcism. :) MayhemMario 17:04, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey i was wondering as I really want to- could I help with The Tyler Moon in your sandbox- I realyl want to add more refs- it's got the refs to be better than Anthonys- which was great. :) MayhemMario 15:56, 20 October 2011 (UTC) But I dont mind if you say 'to many cooks spoil the brew' :)

I don't need any help right now but if I need some assistance, I shall be asking you :-) GSorby – Ping! 17:03, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Im not sure about this but Rustie Lee's picture could it be moved to a better name?! MayhemMario 17:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Also replying (edit conflict), I really want to do the lead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P But I respect your decision and will not make a snadbox for Tyler. MayhemMario 17:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Go on then. You can do the lead for me. GSorby – Ping! 17:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done; I have renamed Rustie Lee's picture as you asked. GSorby – Ping! 17:09, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

O YAYAYAY!! :P No. Thanks so much for doing the file name- the lead was the only thing I did on Anthony's. MayhemMario 17:10, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Pleasure. I really do suck at leads sometimes. By the way, what's a "snadbox"? May I suggest typing a little slower? ;-) GSorby – Ping! 17:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah that's one fo my biggest downdfalls tpynig. MayhemMario 17:15, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

By the way, before you make a draft for a split off, maybe it's a good idea to check my subpages first in case I've already started it. GSorby – Ping! 17:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Just to say Thanks :) MayhemMario 17:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

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Favour

Hi! I was just here for a favour. Can you on the DS soap scoop, ask 'Is Grace Olubunmi still in the show and if so whats next for her? I would do it, but my email is mucking up, which is required to ask the question. I know we havent seen eye to eye lately but I hope we can fix things up. If you can that'd be great!! Anyway, thanks alot, bye MayhemMario 13:35, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Just to let you know finished Tyler Moon's lead- thinking, for the DYK, should we do the same as Anthony's, not sure :) MayhemMario 12:38, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Parkison quit

Jolly good, I feel its better if one author, writes a section in the article, its less fragmented then. I spent 10 mins looking for my addition, then I noticed you left comments on talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gren500 (talk • contribs) 08:44, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me?

Is it just me or does the Corrie cast list just look really messy with the dates?!, I really want to rowspan them all but that would get reverted staright away! :) MayhemMario 10:53, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Give it a go if you want. See WP:BOLD for details. Some people like bold edits. I've tried to discuss about removing the dates but people want them kept there. GSorby – Ping! 10:57, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Thats gonna be one major edit. :/ I'll do it, bracing myself for backlash. :) MayhemMario 10:59, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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-You may not like this but take it, please :) MayhemMario 11:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! GSorby – Ping! 12:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Anthony Moon

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Favour (2nd time)

Hi! I was just here for a favour. Can you on the DS soap scoop, ask 'Is Grace Olubunmi still in the show and if so whats next for her? I would do it, but my email is mucking up, which is required to ask the question. I know we havent seen eye to eye lately but I hope we can fix things up. If you can that'd be great!! Anyway, thanks alot, bye MayhemMario 13:20, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

I would like to say well done for all the hard work you have done :)

He doesn't want praise off a vandal like yourself.RaintheOne ^BAM 16:30, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Hardly vandalism, you could have just changed it. The message in the summary was perfectly fine so I will be making a complaint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackJackUK (talk • contribs) 13:23, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Not being rude but who do you think you are? I've been on Wikipedia nearly three years and I know how these articles work. Don't think you can waltz on here and start commandeering everything. Thank you. GSorby – Ping! 13:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

And GSorby, you never replied to the above :( MayhemMario 13:27, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry Mario! I don't have a clue how to do that and plus I haven't the time. Maybe you could set up a new e-mail? GSorby – Ping! 13:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Yea I was gonna do that- but I ten it got compliacetaed :/ ANYway dosent matter :) Who is the Jack dude a sockpuppet off!?!? MayhemMario 13:34, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes you ARE being rude. You're pretentious, and think you own the pages on this website when you don't. Get off your high horse and cut the ignorance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackJackUK (talk • contribs) 18:49, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Wait? I've only just read this - so Oliveroxx is still here?RaintheOne ^BAM 14:57, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

I dunno, but I know he's a sock of some sort. Oliveroxx wasn't this rude... GSorby – Ping! 15:18, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

I would have helped but it was closed. You will have to explain something to me George. Really confused. I'm aware that Jane is leaving again.. so while we cannot guess the dates - shouldn't she atleast be listed as departing? Or has the EE project come up with something agaisnt that..RaintheOne ^BAM 22:50, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Apparently we keeping her as regular until Brett has confirmed she will definitely not reutrn to the show. GSorby – Ping! 22:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Can you link me to the discussion, I wanna see this. lol Everything I have read has said that Brett has returned for a short stint and will be off to spend time with her baby. It is a little weird really, like censoring Becky from Corrie's departure until we are sure that Kelly is sure that she isn't going to change her mind at the last minute and stay.RaintheOne ^BAM 23:01, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

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This was discussed at the WikiProject. And plus you ignored the hidden comments. To be honest I think you need to grow up a little and accept the fact that you got reverted, not behave like a child taking it to Dispute Resolution. GSorby – Ping! 22:34, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

For the record, the DRN thread is DoA as JackJack has not discussed on the talk page prior to filing the DRN thread. I have attempted to explain to him on his talk page why the chages he's making are not appropriate and guide him to a more productive editing. Hasteur (talk) 22:43, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Hi please may you comment at Frciaktive's page, just on that one comment (or two?) so we can clear things up. MayhemMario 20:14, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi, GSorby please may you uplaod Poppy's promo, if you have time, much appreciated :P MayhemMario 16:02, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I left a Inside Soap article about Cora on Mario's user talk page.RaintheOne ^BAM 17:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Durations

I'm sorry I can't understand this. This whole discussion has made a lot of the articles factually wrong? If a character such as May Wright left in June 2007 and returned in June 2008, she did not appear continuously from 2006-2008 did she? She appeared from 2006-2007 and then for a one off appearance in 2008? Alex250P (talk) 02:49, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Im sorry, but I agree with the above user, but then that's WP:EE rules. :D MayhemMario 20:15, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Think about it though. If a character recurs every year, like Sal Martin, then it would be awkward and untidy to put 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 when its's easier to put 1996— or 1996–2011? GSorby – Ping! 15:00, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

We did agree to do it this way. If you think it should be different for one-off appearances, I suggest you take it up at WT:EE. But my opinion is that it's fine as it is. –anemoneprojectors– 15:04, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

It troubles me a little now. It works for some not for others, such as Lucy Beale, who will be back 2011 at the end but had a substantial break, and to show coninuous durtion is a bit misleading. We may need to revist this unfortunately.GunGagdin^Moan 15:34, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Shane denies this!!!

lol I had no idea I'd done that! probably because a) i was in a hurry and b) Shane Richie was the last name I wrote! thanks ;) –anemoneprojectors– 14:17, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Never mind! But oh my god Anemone, that really made me laugh :D GSorby – Ping! 14:37, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

It really made me laugh after you pointed it out! Well, I had to stiffle it because I'm in the library!! –anemoneprojectors– 14:53, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

If you're still in need of a computer, I bought one the other week at £190 and it's great, really fast. If you're interested then I'll provide you a link. GSorby – Ping! 14:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I may be able to get one for free from a friend, but I may have to wait on that one. –anemoneprojectors– 14:58, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

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Regarding User:Joshua Guest

Those edits really don't look like vandalism to me, care to expand on them? Alexandria (chew out) 15:37, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

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Accusations of vandalism

I came across this revert you made by User:Joshua Guest, where you called it vandalism, which consisted of He is the son of Pat Evans and Brian Wicks and is also the young half brother of David Wicks, which Brian_Wicks#Brian_Wicks seems t say that this is at least plausible. I also noted this reversion that you called vandalism, but the citation seems to indicate the information claimed. Now, as to the accuracy of the information, I have no idea, but I'm at a bit of a loss as to why this is vandalism. It looks like a conflict between you two over the content of the article, but the edits (regardless of quality) appear to be in good faith. I couldn't help but notice this warning, which was a level 4 warning you put on his page for vandalism, where there had never been a prior warning. (He has only had one problem with removing speedy tags, which is unrelated). This looks a lot like biting the new comer. More importantly, I find no discussion about the inclusions / exclusion on the talk page for the article, and the only communications you seem to have had with the editor is to give him a level 4 warning to block him. By anyone's standards, this is a very harsh first warning to give any editor.

The guidelines on vandalism say Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia., so unless he is obviously adding this cited material, or this material that appears to be backed up with other Wikipedia articles for the purpose of undermining Wikipedia, it isn't vandalism. Content that you disagree with or that you feel is inaccurate, but added in good faith, is not vandalism. If there is something else I missed, please tell me. Otherwise, please be careful how you label fellow editor's contributions, regardless of your perception of their quality. Dennis Brown (talk) 18:47, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Understood. Apologies for any misunderstanding. GSorby – Ping! 19:49, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Appologies may be best saved for him ;) But I understand that you were also acting in good faith, but mistaken as to what we call vandalism. He is pretty new here, a little help from a more experienced editor might be helpful. I've dealt with him one article I nominated for deletion, and we ended up working together a bit and fixing it enough to keep. He just lacks experience. Dennis Brown (talk) 21:40, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh no, I do know what vandalism is and what isn't, I just considered it vandalism as he kept re-inserting the information. Maybe I could help him out a bit. I've always been a friendly face on Wikipedia for nearly three years now so I know how everything works. Thanks for your advice, it was helpful :) GSorby – Ping! 22:29, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Kevin and Rebecca

just wanted to thank you for finally putting Suzy's kids back where they belong! i.e. where they used to be ;) –anemoneprojectors– 16:12, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

The lists will be up to code by next month, all of them as I quite enjoy it :) GSorby – Ping! 16:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Good. I had planned to do them all myself. When I'm back full time I'll probably go through them just to make sure your standards are as good as mine ;) –anemoneprojectors– 16:16, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

We seem to fight over our edits sometimes :P Because me being a perfectionist and you being brief (ie storylines) kinda clashes sometimes ;) I know, you always go over my edits to make sure they're right and decent. Btw, you gotta love Cora, she's amazing ;) GSorby – Ping! 16:18, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm also a perfectionist but I don't have time to be one now! Being brief is hard. Cora... hmm I don't like the noises her mouth makes when she talks. If she has scenes with Jack Branning I'll be screaming because he makes the same noises!!! –anemoneprojectors– 16:20, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Meh I notice it with Jack, but that's because I hate him...so, so much. You must admit, Cora and Rainie are the only decent introductions Kirkwood's made so far...and maybe Lola. Anyway, I'll let you get on! GSorby – Ping! 16:23, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes I need to go home because I'm missing Deal or No Deal and it's bloody dark out!!! –anemoneprojectors– 16:29, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Poppy Meadow

Hi, please may you allow me and Frickative to do the GA review, although I thank you for your edits- I would rather do it (dont know about Frick). MayhemMario 18:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

You so fancy Poppy ;) GSorby – Ping! 18:29, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

What's bad about admitting that!, thanks for taking it so well- I must admit it sounded rude. :) MayhemMario 18:31, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh no, I don't take things to heart, you know that and I don't hold grudges. And yes correct, who doesn't fancy Poppy ;)? GSorby – Ping!

Agreed, though I was kind of surprised that he reported you- but hey..... MayhemMario 19:09, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Who has reported GSorby and for what? - JuneGloom Talk 20:39, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah Mario fill us in :-) GSorby – Ping! 20:51, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry put that in the wrong context, YOU reported HIM, but it came to a consensus you were ...? ( please fill in, wrong/right?) MayhemMario 18:42, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

"Were these in a particular order? Revert if they were"

They were, but you reverted :-) How did you not notice what the order was?! –anemoneprojectors– 14:43, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I was looking at them and I was like these are all over the place. Then I saw it was sorted by last name, I was like "bugger!" lol :-) GSorby – Ping! 14:50, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Well spotted!

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BonheurFDS - nicely done there! -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:01, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

What can I say, I'm perfect! Haha, yes I remember that user very well, especially when they can't leave images of Turks alone. Thanks! GSorby – Ping! 21:33, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

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Derek

I noticed that you asked for some sources

• Yahoo were more interested in Max/Jack than Derek - [9]
• The Mirror offer up some good reception - [10]
• The Mirror praise Derek's casting - [11]
• Anything of use in this interview? - [12]
• I love what the Guardian brand him as - [13]
• BT describe him - [14]RaintheOne ^BAM 00:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

George, reception sections are meant for analysis and critique from sources other than those close to the subject matter. I'm not sure a section to what Forman thinks is a good example of a reception section. Too much weight is being placed on what Foreman has harped on abgout as it is. I've offered some source which could help build a section, above.RaintheOne ^BAM 21:49, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Rain, though after Rain moved it were left we a quote from Jaqi and I.M.O. its terrible why on earth is that related/aimed at Derek? It should be put in reception for the The Branning family. MayhemMario 21:58, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Well I'd say that "terrible" is a little strong. While the original comment was aimed at the Branning siblings in general, she did mention Derek and it was said she watched his return to the show, so it does relate to Derek.RaintheOne ^BAM 22:15, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Well done for the article George, but I also agree that Forman's opinion of Derek is not reception. It is not how the character has been received. It is Forman discussing who the character is.GunGagdin^Moan 00:00, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the feedback. I will sort it out tomorrow :) GSorby – Ping! 00:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

What is up, no thanks for finding sources, I wonder why. lolRaintheOne ^BAM 00:22, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Ahh! I can't believe I didn't thank you! I usually do it automatically, sorry sorry sorry! Thank you for the sources Rain, they were especially helpful :) GSorby – Ping! 18:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Are you being serious. I don't want you to not like me. I thought I did something. :(RaintheOne ^BAM 18:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm lost here :/ why would I not like you? GSorby – Ping! 18:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I thought, that you thought - maybe you were annoyed because I suggested you add more sources. lolRaintheOne ^BAM 19:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

No no! I want sources to add, maybe I can get the article to good article status before along. It's really nice you help me out with sources all the time :) GSorby – Ping! 19:59, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Well that is good, cus your my fav guy editor here.RaintheOne ^BAM 20:05, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Awww thanks, very touching :) GSorby – Ping! 20:14, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

You should be able to keep track of Antony scans from this crazed lot - [15]RaintheOne ^BAM 17:41, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

George, where is the source supporting Rainie's departure is temp, just interested in reading it cus i like Rainie. Then I'll keep an eye on the IP's too.RaintheOne ^BAM 21:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

I asked Franks via her website. She said that she hasn't left permanently, only took a short break from filming and that her departure would be announced. Yeay someone who likes Rainie! She's an awesome actress! GSorby – Ping! 21:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh right. Well that is good enough for me, no one else can argue on the verifiability level because as you said there is no official announcement of a departure. I dunno if you used to watch Family Affairs, but Franks was amazing playing Karen Ellis!RaintheOne ^BAM 21:51, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Everyone on DS seems convinced she has gone for good, so I told them what you told me. Atleast if everyone knows it might stop some people fromn changing in on here.RaintheOne ^BAM 22:22, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Well perhaps we can change her to Past until she re-appears, or until we see her in upcoming credits? GSorby – Ping! 22:28, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I'll leave that one to you guys. .. but .. I suppose you could argue if Franks is having a holiday, then she could be considered present as many dip in and out and you don't even notice their gone.RaintheOne ^BAM 22:37, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

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How come you are adding the template you created - but eliminating other external links... Why?RaintheOne ^BAM 21:26, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Because, only official character profiles should be placed on the article. What use are other fan sites with character profiles? It's like linking to another wiki really. GSorby – Ping! 21:28, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Holy Soap, What's on TV and STV are not fansites.RaintheOne ^BAM 21:35, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't see EastEnders or Emmerdale articles link to these website though? GSorby – Ping! 21:37, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

WP:OSE ;) - JuneGloom Talk 21:45, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

No one edits Emmerdale apart from JG. Maybe EastEnders built a consensus not use them. If I applied your other stuff chain of thought - I would add HolySoap profiles to EE pages ... because Neighbours, H&A and Hollyoaks link to those.RaintheOne ^BAM 21:51, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps we can raise a discussion at the WP:EE? It may be an idea. GSorby – Ping! 22:08, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

How will that solve the Corrie links. I assume you mean to add more links for EE pages? I swear EE deal the elitist drug. If they are not hogging Inside Soap, grabbing every review or winning every soap award they are defining soap articles.RaintheOne ^BAM 22:21, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Yo man, can you hand out warning messages to those who vandalise EE articles - otherwise they'll keep doing it.RaintheOne ^BAM 20:22, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Course, it's been a bit mad lately :-) GSorby – Ping! 20:34, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I know. That naughty IP has been awarded another chance though, the warning for adding Tanya to departing would have made all the difference. :p I'll look for sources for Afia. How long have I got?RaintheOne ^BAM 22:06, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

You have precisely 5 minutes and 32 seconds. Nah, I better give you as long as you need :P Thanks, GSorby – Ping! 22:07, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I'll add them to your sandbox talk. I presume you'll be after inside soap interview too?RaintheOne ^BAM 22:18, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Yep, anything. Thanks, you're a star. GSorby – Ping! 22:25, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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Joseph Brown was born as of today on Coronation Street. The episodes have already aired, and it was quite emotional. So stop removing Joseph's link from profiles please. Because he is officially a character. Thank you. Libby'smummy (talk) 21:52, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh god I'm sorry! I forgot to watch it tonight! Please accept my apologies. GSorby – Ping! 22:30, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

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Boring and tedious.

I don't get why you insist on reverting my changes? It was NEVER announced on 13 November 2011 that David Wicks would return to EastEnders on New Year's Day; it just said that he'd be returning for Pat's departure storyline. It was hardly a major alteration was it, and I think once again, it's just being pretentious to revert it. JackJackUK (talk) 20:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

And? What am I supposed to say? I've got quite an addictive nature to EastEnders and I know what's right and what's wrong. GSorby – Ping! 21:39, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

You're not the only person who edits that page though, so why should you be superior over everyone else? It's just ignorance.JackJackUK (talk) 17:41, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

If you are right about the it being announced on the 13, just pull the source up and move on. You are being quite confronting Jack. It does not help you coming here and calling GSorby: boring, tedious, pretentious, said he acts superior and is ingorant.RaintheOne ^BAM 19:22, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree, there are many ways which you could have discussed this without using them words, whilst still getting your point across. Calm down, its Christmas! :D MayhemMario 19:25, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Where have I called him boring, tedious or ignorant? The use of boring and tedious was used to reflect his actions whereby he's constantly reverting my changes, I haven't said he's boring nor tedious, and neither have I called him ignorant: his actions reflect ignorance, doesn't mean he is ignorant so I don't buy those arguments. JackJackUK (talk) 18:48, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas! :-) GSorby – Ping! 18:49, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

I do not understand what you gain from claiming you did not say those things - when they are clear to see for everyone... You just admitted you called his actions "Boring and tedious" which is directed at him. You clearly said "It's just ignorance" and "it's just being pretentious to revert it". You labelled GSorby's actions as "ignorance".. Personally I'd save up those pennies and get buying. ;)RaintheOne ^BAM 19:05, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Have you read what I put? Once again, I never said I didn't say those things, I said I didn't call him those things, I called what he said those things, and there clearly is a difference. If I say what someone does is boring and tedious, it does not mean they personally are boring and tedious does it? We've all been arrogant, ignorant and whatever so stop trying to put words into my mouth which I'm clearly not trying to portray. JackJackUK (talk) 20:34, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

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Just to let you know, Sian's last episode was tonight - [16], [17]. - JuneGloom Talk 21:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Coronation Street template deletions

I merged all your Coronation Street template deletions, so that people only need to comment once. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thank you very much. GSorby – Ping! 11:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Yusef Khan

Add a caption to the image, it needs it to stay as a GA. Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 19:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Done and thank you for pointing that out. GSorby – Ping! 20:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I think the previous one was better though, and I would like you to add that one back if that's alright with. The current one is quite ugly, and the lighting is so dark and terrible. The previous version went into proper depth into character, giving him that mysterious atmosphere. I hope you take this in mind and put my point into view. TrebleSeven (talk) 16:53, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

This image really suits the character. The previous one showed him smiling and in the pub. In the current version, he is face on to the camera. That one is fine. GSorby – Ping! 17:39, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Can you define what you mean by "fine"? A few reasons could help. TrebleSeven (talk) 19:01, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Fine usually means nothing wrong doesn't it? GSorby – Ping! 19:34, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but can you be a bit more specific? TrebleSeven (talk) 12:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

The correct picture has his whole face toward the camera, not at an angle and the facial expressions reflect and show his personality accurately. GSorby – Ping! 12:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree with GSorby, the old picture is not as good as the current one. Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 18:08, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Pat image

Hey George, I reverted to the early Pat screenshot over the promo you added yesterday. Only because the promo u added was Pat in the 90s. The one I uploaded over is Pat in the 80s, so that could be used, but the file is huge, so I reverted for now as am a little too drunk to change the size right now! Happy new year.GunGagdin^Moan 03:39, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I've resized that for you Sherri. All done now and happy new year to you too! (I couldn't go out last night, babysitting! D:) GSorby – Ping! 06:21, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. Babysitting on NYE is a bummer, but at least you saved loads of money. I spent approximately £200. So not worth it this morning! Did you have a look at the discussion on Pauline's page? What do you think about using the early promo of Pauline instead of the grainy screenshot that we have for the 1985 picture?GunGagdin^Moan 13:33, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Pat Fat

Mr. Sorby! I've never seen you on at this hour. Poor fat pat - because I've also never seen you let forum posts stay as sources, nor have I ever seen you add a pesky blogs as a sources. What is the deal?Rain the 1 05:08, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I can't sleep!! And I thought I could get away with the blog, but nothing pulls the wool over your eyes! I shall remove it :-) and I can't find any sources to prove the Inbetweeners quote. I have watched it, but I can't seem to find a source online. GSorby – Ping! 05:59, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

You could just do a cite episode or cite DVD for that. I do warn that it isn't that notable, The Guardian and E4 themselves used to do weekly run throughs of memorable quotes and failed to mention it. I did find it funny myself... but there are much more well known gags in the show, which we won't talk about. ;)Rain the 1 06:47, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I'm in the middle of citing the DVD now, just need to go and get the case for the ISBN. PS: Inbetweeners crack me up! ;D GSorby – Ping! 06:56, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Pauline Fowler.jpg

I have replaced this image with File:Wendy Richard Pauline Fowler BBC 2006.jpg, and now it is orphaned. You can request speedy deletion with {{db-g7}} if you want. --George Ho (talk) 21:52, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Please keep the original filename because this has all the previous revisions. Images that were uplaoded previously can then be restored if need be. Plus, the Summary and Rationale wasn't correct. What I've done is the correct format for image rationales and licensing on soap articles. Thank you. GSorby – Ping! 22:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect? How is the summary incorrect? May I ask the same question question in WP:Media copyright question? By the way, you may reply either here or in Talk:Pauline Fowler. --George Ho (talk) 01:05, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Now you have added replaced my file with your file in Wendy Richard. Why would you do that, and what's wrong with my rationale for Wendy Richard? If mine is incorrect, how incorrect? --George Ho (talk) 02:12, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Discussion continues at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Soap Operas#Acknowledging one image of real and fictional person at the same time. You can join the talk. --George Ho (talk) 03:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

It's been days... now you're back, how "incorrect" are my rationales? --George Ho (talk) 21:33, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Lydia...

Before creating a sandbox article, please make sure other users havent created the a userspace article first. Sadly, I have already created one for Lydia, and it was still under construction. SO BE MORE CAREFULL!! :D If you want, there is a bit of reception you've missed inmy snadbox here. Its a bit of a shame, because I was literally looking through my sandbox's yesterday, thinking about what ends I need to meet. :') MayhemMario 16:51, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

David Wick

Hello George! I've just changed the main image (File:David Wicks.jpg) of the David Wicks article to what he looks like in 2012. I hope you don't mind it. If you do, feel free to tell me, and I'll try and change it! Best of luck. TrebleSeven (talk) 21:06, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

There should have been two separate images of David Wicks rather than upgrades; however, an update may be fine. Why did you go all trouble to replace File:Wendy Richard Pauline Fowler BBC 2006.jpg with File:Pauline Fowler.jpg? Both are currently discussed in WP:Non-free content review, yet mine is orphaned and ready for deletion in several days. I asked you for your opinion in the talk page to insert my image into Pauline Fowler, and I was not notified about the Pauline Fowler that you have upgraded. You did not ask me whether you can do your own work of the photo; you went bold without my approval. Anyway, I don't know if two images must co-exist, but can I tag it with {{orphaned non-free revisions}} and let the administrators decide? --George Ho (talk) 21:20, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Your images weren't very good and it should be uploaded under a new file name. Don't worry, I will get one. Appreciate you for trying though! GSorby – Ping! 21:22, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I wish you could have let me get one. TrebleSeven (talk) 22:01, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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Jill Marsden Promo

If your not busy, do you mind uploading Jill Marsden's promo? Its on Walford Wiki, just to let you know, I would upload it myself, its just you'll do a better job! MayhemMario 20:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Still Online?

If your still online, can you tell me how to ask for a history merge and how to do it? I know that I cannot actually do the merge (only admins) but it would be nice to knwo how to do it. Please explain it to me! MayhemMario 20:55, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Via Twinkle. Go to the page you wish for history to be merged into, go to the TW (Twinkle) drop down and click CSD. Scroll down and select G6 for History Merge and enter the page title of the sandbox. GSorby – Ping! 20:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Huh? Why'd you revert me? I said I wanted to do it! MayhemMario 21:00, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I think I get it, I have to download Twinkle, and it has to be done through it... But Im taking all the credit for Jill! AHAHAHAH :P MayhemMario 21:02, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I reverted your edit because you don't add the template to your sandbox, only the page you want to merge the history into. GSorby – Ping! 21:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I knew that... :/ MayhemMario 21:07, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

You know what you will need to do now - a cite iplayer subtitles to back it up. Nahh, but I wonder if they do one of those. I requested you on fbook because I'm nosey. :)Rain the 1 23:41, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

And I've accepted you because I'm nosey. Cite, subtitles, REALLY -.-? GSorby – Ping! 23:45, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Goody. Well you could imagine someone wanting one on here lolRain the 1 23:57, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for the help! BTW, I dont want to pry but the source you recently added on Cora, youve already got. :P MayhemMario 20:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hey, i've got a bit of a query that I need to sort out and thought you might be able to help. You know how in EE, Mercy first appeared in E20 and it was later announced that she would join EE? Well her first appearance in her infobox is her first appearance in EE rather than E20.. so, the character of Lynsey in Hollyoaks is the same as Mercy as she first appeared in Hollyoaks Later in 2008 then in 2010 it was announced that she would join Hollyoaks full time, so what would be the first appearance date the one from Hollyoaks later or actually Hollyoaks as there has been some debate about this. I would be grateful for your help, thank you. :)--AcidBrights (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

If Hollyoaks Later is a spin-off, then the first appearance date should be the 2010 one because that is when she joined the actual regular cast. Change it to 2010 and keep Hollyoaks Later in the spin-off appearances :-) GSorby – Ping 15:38, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks so much for this! :) How are you btw, we haven't spoke in ages, hows your wiki editing going?--AcidBrights (talk) 15:54, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Going great thanks! I've been putting my sweat and blood into Yusef Khan which is one of my best articles! Glad to hear from you :-) GSorby – Ping 15:55, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah Yusef's article is really good.--AcidBrights (talk) 16:50, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering if you could ask me another question, sorry for this. :) But, which do you think sounds better: She made her first on-screen appearance on OR The character made her first appearance in the episode broadcast on ? It would really help me because I read a previous discussion which said that have two on's in the sentence did not seem to flow?--AcidBrights (talk) 20:08, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I usually put "The character made her first appearance on 7 January 2011." Just sounds a bit better when you say it :-) GSorby – Ping 20:49, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help I really appreciate it. :)--AcidBrights (talk) 20:57, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Let me know if you need any other help. GSorby – Ping 20:58, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers

I know we haven't really seen eye-to-eye recently or anything lol, but thanks for sorting that Daybreak thing and apologies for my actions in the past. New year, new start I guess. JackJackUK (talk) 20:30, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem. I saw your query on Raintheone's talk page and I wasn't busy so I fixed it for you :-) GSorby – Ping 20:49, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers. Also, would this source from Unreality TV confirm David Wicks's departure? http://primetime.unrealitytv.co.uk/eastenders-carol-jackson-to-leave-walford-with-david-wicks/. Not too sure. JackJackUK (talk) 21:06, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

We've always never trusted Unreality TV as a source. We never use them for departures as we've had some false info from that website previously, so it's considered an unreliable source. It's best to wait until something like Digital Spy or The Mirror reports it. GSorby – Ping 21:14, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok, cheers for that. JackJackUK (talk) 21:33, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Not again..... :/

GSorby, youve done it again! I've already created a sandbox article for Rose, im sorry but this is getting rather annoying.. Also you never replied to 'Lydia', im guessing you wouldnt.. :/ MayhemMario 16:28, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't have time to search your sandboxes and quite frankly, you weren't going to work on it anyway, just because you create a sandbox, doesn't mean that it's reserved for only you. You last edited it on 15 November so it was quite a while ago and all you've done is copy the section over. If you can find a rule in the Manual of Style or the Help contents that forbids other users from creating a sandbox if another one is under development then I will remove it and apologize. Other than that, there's no rule. GSorby – Ping 18:02, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, that sounded a bit blunt but in the future, I will check if you have already created a sandbox :-) GSorby – Ping 18:10, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Rather than presuming that I am not going to edit the article again, try to ask me on my talk page. TBH, GSorby, you have a lot on your plate ATM, Greg (splitting), Afia, Derek, expanding Tyler, Pooja, Anthony GA, Ray, Julie, Cora, Lydia, Eva, expanding Pat and Tanya, Branning Week, Faith, Will M, Sylvia, Talking to myself.... so thats why I created Rose, so a) You woudlnt have more on your plate b) Because youve nabbed all the other 'splittable' articles!!! MayhemMario 16:10, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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As per your request, I have restored this article. I will restore the page history to your user page in a bit. I would sugegst that you don't wait for me to delete the article, but put a request on the WP:AN noticeboard, otherwise it might stay up for a lot longer (going to be very busy this afternoon!). Stephen! ^Coming... 12:47, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

It's a bit more than a couple of edits from today... but I have restored all the edits that were deleted from your user page (as per your request). Stephen! ^Coming... 12:51, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you. Can you keep it there please as I need it? GSorby – Ping 12:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Simon Wicks

Because Simon appeared for about thirty seconds, naturally someone thought his article needed a new image. I'm against putting it in the infobox, since it doesn't represent his time on the show, so I've moved it to the departure section. I was wondering if you could lighten it though as it's very dark - File:Simon Wicks 2012.jpg? - JuneGloom Talk 21:16, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

How's that? Tbh, I wasn't gonna bother with a new image, but I re-captured it in better quality but he was a bit far away from the camera to get the crystal clear quality I usually do. But yes, I think all is OK now. GSorby – Ping 21:43, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

It looks much better, thanks. I think the Daily Mail had the same idea as their images are lightened too - [18]. - JuneGloom Talk 00:27, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I've nominated the image for deletion per NFCC#8. Your comments are welcome here. Frickative 13:07, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Corrie

Hey, there's a bit of a problem with some Corrie articles. Characters that were introduced in 2001 were introduced by Jane Macnaught, however people are changing it to Jane MacNaught, which is incorrect and basically the wrong spelling. Is there anything that could be done to stop it? Thanks :)--AcidBrights (talk) 16:48, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

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You could add a hidden note saying that Macnaught is the correct spelling or perhaps reference the introducer name? GSorby – Ping 19:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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you tagged this template, but it was never added at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2011_December_31#Coronation_Street_Templates, so it was never deleted. you could probably just get the admin to delete it citing that discussion. Frietjes (talk) 23:33, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Liam Butcher

I honestly think that the main image on the Liam Butcher article should be updated. He hardly looks like that anymore, and has changed a lot since '08. I hope you find a new image and reply to me on mine or your's talkpage. TrebleSeven (talk) 16:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Completley agree, is there a new promo for him? You could do a Ben.M and say before and after. MayhemMario 16:48, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

No, there was a good shot I saw and I will capture and upload that. Give me some time. GSorby – Ping 19:59, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

 Done. GSorby – Ping 20:19, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

New Tyler Picture

Please could i upload a new picture of tyler moon on his page because i have been trying to upload it but it just goes back to the old picture if not then could you do it?.

New image is not necessary. The current one is fine. GSorby – Ping 20:32, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Well i think he needs a new one because every other one has a screen captured picture which i think is better. This is the one i wanted to upload: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tyler_Moon.jpg

1) That promotional photo that he currently has is fine and the non-free media rationale is suited to that picture and 2) You've uploaded a bad quality image to Wikimedia Commons and non-free images are not allowed on Commons and 3) That image is of way to high resolution. The promotional photograph is fine. GSorby – Ping 20:43, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Aaron, I've just tagged the Commons picture for speedy deletion, because only the BBC can release stills from EastEnders into the public domain under a free licence. On a more minor point, George, the current Tyler image needs the source you found it at (unless you're a photographer for the Beeb now, in which case I'm very jealous of your career :p). Frickative 20:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Would you be jealous of actually seeing me on the program because that's what I'm training for!! ;) GSorby – Ping 20:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Pfft, never mind jealous, I'd be writing the character article and pestering you for free-use photographs! :p Frickative 20:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Unlikely to happen soon, but if it does, it'll be very awkward having my own character article and image :S haha GSorby – Ping 20:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Could you please do another Max Branning picture because his one now looks old and i think it would be better if he had a updated picture <span style="color:blue;font-family:Arial" 21:01, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

He looks no different in that picture than he does now. GSorby – Ping 21:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok well could you tell me how to create a talk page as ive only just signed up to Wikipedia and find it all complicated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaron194 (talk • contribs) 21:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Wait, you're training to be an actor? :-) –anemoneprojectors– 13:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Yep, I am :-) GSorby – Ping 13:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Becky

I'm here to annoy you probably. lol I didn't like the old one because it was too glam. I think she looks like a tramp in this one so thats good, but can you zoom her out, like use the top of her head and a bit of background at both sides. Assuming you took a full screen cap and not just that portion?Rain the 1 01:00, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Big problem. That's the entire screen. I can make it wider though if you like, or I could just wait until later and see if I can get a Skanky McDonald shot before she leaves that has her whole head in it? GSorby – Ping 01:08, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Watermarked ITV's work aye :P Haven't you got any watermarking removal stuff, is thats easier? But yeah you could try and get another if not.Rain the 1 01:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh no, I watermark it with my name so people can't use it! But I can remove watermarks such as the ITV logo on the top left corner :) GSorby – Ping 01:23, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

So you cannot remove your watermark and upload a wider version for here then? Confuzzled me. :/Rain the 1 01:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

What are you on?! lol. I still have the original image. Would you like me to upload a wider version? GSorby – Ping 01:33, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

George, I asked for that originally. When you said that there was a problem - I thought you meant you had done away with the original screenshot. So please, with a cherry on top. :)Rain the 1 01:37, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, hows that? GSorby – Ping 01:41, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

It is great, like yourself Mr. :)Rain the 1 02:07, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Found this reception for Cora. [19]Rain the 1 22:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

jeremy

hi george, i was wondering how your recent contact with Jeremy is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nettle'sOwners (talk • contribs) 18:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Who's Jeremy, and who are you, although it's pretty obvious. GSorby – Ping 18:50, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Is it someone you know in real life again?Rain the 1 19:55, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi

I sent you something for Kat - and I was just wondering in the original of this pic, File:Ali Bastian.jpg, is that Chris Simmons? Then you could probs use it in the Kat article.Rain the 1 16:07, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it looks like him, he's just got no hair in that picture! And I'll look at the Kat-Scans now. (lol Kat-Scans...) GSorby – Ping 17:00, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm just curious as to why you uploaded File:Chris Simmons.jpg to Wikipedia and not Commons? - JuneGloom Talk 20:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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New screenshots etc

Just noticed some new images of Heather Trott and the old Lauren, just thought I'd let you know you didn't update the image descriptions :-) Not sure if there were others. –anemoneprojectors– 15:10, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Sources

Hi, hear your working on Kat, could you use this as a source

• [20]

Actaully in this source, it has a bit for Pat, Peggy, Pauline, Michelle, Phil, Grant, Pauline, Zoe, Derek Harrison, Den, etc! MayhemMario 17:53, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Usefull? MayhemMario 18:24, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

It was, thank you :-) Although some of the stuff in there is already present in the article GSorby – Ping 18:45, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Rv... do you ever listen?

Hi, Im guessing this was aimed at me, what im trying to say is:

We never link Devon Higgs right? As it just redirects back to the character- So for example when writing Morgan Jackson King (Devon Higgs), you might aswell be putting Morgan twice as they both link to the same thing. Thats why we dont link Ben (Pascoe), Anthony (Lapinskas) or Tyler (Discipline). We can always say "link them as the article will be created", but if we keep saying this, were not going to have any guidelines. Do you get me? MayhemMario 20:42, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

No, not really. Leave the links, especially red ones. What if someone clicks on it and thinks "oh a redirect, I guess I'll make this"? At least if they are redlinked or redirected then it's easier for people. MOS:TV if you're that bothered... GSorby – Ping 20:45, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, dear ive must have not explained it very well then. Matt Lapinskas is not a red link. Neither is any of the others. They are redirects redirecting back to the character article, so when writing for example Shenice Quinn (Lily Harvey), it might aswell be Shenice Quinn (Shenice Quinn). There is no point of having two links to the same article. I think other users would agree with me, (hope!), and also when they type in Lily Harvey (as it is not linked in the main article), they'll see it is a redirect. Made more sense? MayhemMario 20:49, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Again What if someone clicks on it and thinks "oh a redirect, I guess I'll make this"? At least if they are redlinked or redirected then it's easier for people. GSorby – Ping 20:52, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Clicks on what they'll be nothing to click on if it isnt linked!!!!! MayhemMario 20:54, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

My point exactly. People are less likely to create the page if it isn't linked. They might only notice the page doesn't exist if a redlink shows or the redirect isn't linked. Basic stuff here. GSorby – Ping 21:00, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I was asked for my opinion - so - I agree with what George says aslong as the actor is notable and no one got around to creating the article as of yet. I would say it is pointless for a nobody child actor though.Rain the 1 20:59, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Note.

Please, when making comments like this could you ask them on my talk page, rather than in the edit summary. Also I did this per a discussion you were involved in here. And it seems your use of the word "commandeering" is wrong. Now I dont want to start a petty squable over this, so remember, were working together, so dont try and go against this by calling your colleagues uneccessary words. Thanks. MayhemMario 17:16, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

First point, that discussion does not mention Rainie whatsoever. And second, don't get smart with me, commandeering was the right word and it means to take control of something. I'm sure the definition will help you a bit. And colleagues? Please. This is Wikipedia not a workplace. You do commandeer everything. Just because plot summary in the lead section of the article annoys you, you think you own the place and just remove it. Where's the discussion? I'll tell you something now, you need to get a grip and do things properly. If you need help, I'm sure you can find it at the Help:Contents. GSorby – Ping 17:38, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Look. I may not have the best of experience on here, aswell as not being a member as long, but I do know a thing or too. Please do not hold a grudge. Once you submitt your article into the userspace we can edit it how we like. Im not commanding around, im making the article better. Colleague. MayhemMario 18:09, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Mario, some important storyline information is more than welcome in the lead. I do not recall it being discussed anywhere either. You just removed the whole thing - the lead is meant to be a summary of important information from the article. I think you removed some of that. When removing information we are advised to not throw the baby out with the bathwater. As for the arguement itself, the one above, nothing good can come of it.Rain the 1 03:19, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I deleted the plot from the lead on say Lydia, as it explained the plot before you had even read the seperate section, the same with Cora and her candlesticks, I think plot is more suited to characters who have had more storylines. What im trying to say GSorby, is to start afresh, so there is no bad feelings. MayhemMario 12:23, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

What's with all this formal tone? You used to make loads of typos and use a lot of punctuation such as !!?!?!??!?!??! and a lot of smilies. I'm just curious lol GSorby – Ping 12:27, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

I dont knwo whta your taklign abotu!!!!!!?!??!?!?! :) MayhemMario 12:31, 4 February 2012 (UTC) No, seriously, I hadnt noticed. -.-

Frank Foster

Just wondering if you had a look at the info already in the departure section before you made this edit - [21]? I had already added the info about his exit storyline and what you've just put there is pretty much the same information only with DS reporting on it. - JuneGloom Talk 00:14, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

That's okay - [22]. I probably should have put in a paragraph break, so the information was a little clearer. I like the new image, it's much better than the previous one where he appears to have been beaten up. I think once I've finished Lewis' article, I'll see if I can improve Frank's some more. I've already added the casting and departure sections, might as well finish the job! - JuneGloom Talk 00:30, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Corrie

Hey, one of my current projects is completely revamping Leanne Battersby's article (see here: User:AcidBrights/Sandbox7) and I was wondering if you could help me with something. Should the stuff on Leanne's affair with Nick in 2010 go under her relationship with Nick Tilsley section or her relationship with Peter Barlow section? I'm a bit stumped on which way to do it.--AcidBrights (talk) 15:43, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Another question should Leanne's duration be: 1997–2000, 2004–06, 2007— because she took maternity leave in 2006 and return in 2007, or should it just be: 1997–2000, 2004— (e.g. 1997–2000 (original stint), 2004— (official return))--AcidBrights (talk) 16:41, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Anything?--AcidBrights (talk) 08:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

As for the relationship with Nick, you can put that under a section of his own bearing in mind if it has enough text say, at least a paragraph. And the duration shouldn't count any short breaks so yes, the duration should be 1997–2000, 2004— :) GSorby – Ping 09:48, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much, so should I not have that steve frost (2007) when she returned after maternity leave?--AcidBrights (talk) 11:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for helping with the article :)--AcidBrights (talk) 12:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I suppose you could add Steve Frost if there is enough external info and refs. And not a problem :) GSorby – Ping 13:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks so much they look amazing you have done a great job! Thanks for the compliment. :)--AcidBrights (talk) 22:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem at all. If you need help, then I will be more than happy to assist you :-) GSorby – Ping 22:42, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Well I was wondering, do you fancy collaborating on Leanne's article in my sandbox? I've gathered loads of refs so far and theres probably more out there. You don't have to collab if you don't want too, just thought it may be a good idea, we could try and get it to GA if we kind of we were each designated sections to do?--AcidBrights (talk) 22:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I would love to help :-) Maybe I could sort out the storylines and all the navboxes. I would also be happy to sort out the casting and personality sections while you can sort out the development? I can do the lead as well :-) GSorby – Ping 23:07, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah that would be great, and i'm sure we can throw our opinions back and fourth if we want something changed etc, don't be afraid to speak up if you don't like any of my work, I would rather know. :)--AcidBrights (talk) 23:17, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Wow, the character creation section you have created is brilliant! Do you think my writing is okay or not?--AcidBrights (talk) 01:13, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Just to let you know, Jane Danson took maternity leave in 2009 aswell, returning in the same year.--AcidBrights (talk) 13:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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 Done GSorby – Ping 02:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Your RFA

Hey there GSorby. I guess your RFA is not going well. I'm leaving a note out here to tell you that you shouldn't take this to heart or anything like that. I do realize that you mean well in attempting to contribute more towards the project through administration. But many a time, an RfA applicant might not be able to understand what the community expects of prospective administrators. I feel that's the situation in your case. May I comment at this juncture that I'll be more than pleased to guide you in the future on how you should go about understanding the various facets of administration? This talk page note is also intended to be my personal !vote of confidence in you and the fact that you can in the future become an administrator, but only if you really wish to. Again, let this current RfA not put you down. Every edit that you make for the betterment of this project is highly appreciated by all of us. Kind regards. Wifione ^Message 14:24, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. It doesn't bother me at all, as this RfA is my best so far. I guess I can try again next year. GSorby – Ping 14:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello GSorby, I just wanted to let you know that I have SNOW closed Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/GSorby 4 as unsuccessful. You may wish to read this essay, as it offers advice that you may find helpful. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 17:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Awww I was going to vote Support but they closed your RfA! We need more content contributing admins. Better luck next time. --Surturz (talk) 11:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

@Surturz: Your question about a term limit and then opposing because candidates don't agree to it is ridiculus. I have been following your RfA contributions all the way up to Ks0stm's RfA and this is just, I repeat, ridiculous. I'm not telling you how you should vote or ask questions but, you have encountered resistance and opposition from other editors about your vote based off only the question you ask. No candidate I know that has worked hard is going to apply for adminship just to retire from it after a year or two. This user is allowed to retain it as long as the community still trusts this user or is abusing the tools. As I am also told, asking more than 2 questions can be quite disruptive. You may wish to limit your questions.

@GSorby: Better luck next time. You may wish to stay away from an RfA for a year or get adopted by a user to help you out. Keep up the good work editing though.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 515,376,624) 22:25, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Cyberpower678, I don't think GSorby's talk page is a good place to discuss Surturz's questions, and besides, Surturz was merely leaving a friendly note here. GSorby, I hope you won't be discouraged by the outcome of the RfA: keep up the good work you do. Best. Acalamari 23:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Yea you're right. That was something I wanted to bring up a while ago.—cyberpower (Chat)(WP Edits: 515,425,632) 03:48, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Cora

Ref 14 - Cora Cross - Why is the issue number and date not included in the reference???Rain the 1 17:16, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Because I didn't know the issue number and I forgot the date. GSorby – Ping 12:17, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Yups, I hunted the mag down and also added some other reception bits I found. They were just bits really, so it was quicker than scanning.Rain the 1 12:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Cheers Rain! Lifesaver. GSorby – Ping 13:16, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Anthony Moon GA

As you have seen from my edit to Anthony, I have decreased it a lot. Some of the information was stupid, some if it was just to quote(ish), so I cancelled it down a lot. Im not sure if Anthony is GA material yet, I hope you get a good reviewer. I've made the sandbox User:MayhemMario/sandbox:Anthony Moon which has the edit to Anthony (the one you reverted), aswell as some more information, on Amira, Derek, ect. This looks better. I've done a few changes aswell, the plot is clearer. Here are just a few things I found:

• I think one reference was listed as 'Hachette' instead of 'Hearst'.
• NEVER call Bryan Kirkwood 'Bryan', always mention him by his last name.
• You could try and ask June for the Inside Soap interview, rather than sourcing it from MSN.
• Again, Walford Web not a great source, its reporting on something from Radio Times.
• Theres no need to have Bryan Kirkwood listed as EP in every plot reference.
• Some webistes are not linked, RTE is an example.
• The plot is and isnt soruced.
• Link all people, in plot, Eddie, Tyler, Michael.
• Craig is in the lead (may have been me), but not metioned in plot, is he neccesary?
• Spencer Moon, listed under relatives, important?

I know it look like a PR now, but these are ones which a reviewer may not pick up on, as there more 'EastEnderish'. Hope I helped. MayhemMario 13:27, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Andrew Cotton

Hello GSorby. As Andrew is one of the regular characters of EastEnders, and perhaps a villain, I think he should get his own page with a picture of him. He has a storyline now, just having him in List of EastEnders characters (2011) just doesn't seem that right to me. TrebleSeven (talk) 20:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm working on a draft for Andrew and Rose in my userarea. Once they're ready I will split them. GSorby – Ping 21:39, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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Found a new one!

Hi, just wondering if you wanted to use this, ive just used it and put it at the top fo all my sandboxes:

100% complete

You just alter how far you are, by changing the numbers such as,

11.1% complete

Our userpages look really similar now, so I dont know whether you want to use this, as our sandboxes will look similar too! MayhemMario 13:39, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Wow! That's awesome. And sorry for the userpage, I liked the idea of using the navbox lol GSorby – Ping 13:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Nah, its fine :P MayhemMario 14:17, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Quotes

Hey G. I've noticed you're using a lot of quotes in the articles you edit (Anthony Moon caught my eye in particular). Quotes are good, especially when they explain things better than you or I could. However, using too much copyrighted text is prohibited and more often than not the text can be paraphrased and improved. I probably use a lot of quotes in my edits too, in fact I think it was brought up once in a GA, so I'm also learning not to add so many. The temptation is there though, especially when actors talk non-stop about a particular storyline. I found the WP:QUOTEFARM essay a really useful read. Thank you for the new Lewis image, btw. I was thinking of asking for a new one that didn't just show one side of his face. - JuneGloom Talk 20:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Politely acknowledged. Thanks for pointing that out and no problem for Lewis :-) GSorby – Ping 21:39, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I was just curious as to why you've added Lewis Archer to your list of expanded articles? Or is that section for any articles you've edited? - JuneGloom Talk 21:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I dunno :L That was weird, maybe I automatically added him when I was expanding Audrey. Thanks for pointing that out. GSorby – Ping 22:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I've just looked at AcidBright's sandbox for Leanne, which you have edited quite a bit... what is with all the block quotes?Rain the 1 21:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Dunno, they just look nice and plus it saves having to write out key quotes. GSorby – Ping 21:31, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

This is what I mean btw

"columnist Grace Dent commented on Danson's decision to return to the show in 2007 saying: "so Leanne Battersby's back on Coronation Street, again. We knew Leanne would come back. She's played by Jane Danson, one of those rare thesps who knows which side her bread's buttered on. With excellent wages, regular hours and maximum TV exposure you'd imagine most actors would kill to be a soap opera staple."

"Speaking to Inside Soap about the plot, Danson commented: "Leanne has never really given her birth mother a second thought because she's not been in her life. Her dad Les and stepmum Janice were together for a long time, so Janice always took on that mother role. Having said that, Leanne's always known Janice by her first name, so she hasn't called anyone 'Mummy'." Asked how Leanne reacts to the discovery, Danson added: "You'll have to wait and see! She'll either be over the moon to have her real mother in her life, or she'll be absolutely furious that she's been absent all these years."

Leanne decides to stir up as much trouble as she can. I've got a few explosive scenes with Adam and Samia... great shouting and screaming catfights in the Rovers and down the cobbles. I don't think she loves Nick any more. There's maybe a spark for all of 20 seconds but it soon passes and she remembers what he's like. Leanne's just meddling with his mind. It feels really nice to be part of the cast again, although it took a few weeks to get bedded in. Now it's like I've never been away

Danson commented on her return: They're having a ball in this really seedy bar, eyeing up the ladies. Les spots Leanne from behind and says, 'Wow look at that'. She turns round and he realises to his horror it's his daughter. Les shouts, 'What are you doing here?' But Leanne is wondering exactly the same about him. Of course, Patrick doesn't realise it's Les's daughter. He gropes Leanne's bum and she gives him a good wallop. It causes such a commotion they all get chucked out and Leanne is sacked. She also lived in a room above the bar and suddenly has nowhere to stay. So Les offers to take her home to No.5

Danson said she found it hard to work on Coronation Street as her 10-month-old son Harry was asleep before she left and was in bed upon finishing filming. Danson commented: "As much as I love my job I miss Harry incredibly," she admits. "He's happy, he's with his dad and he's absolutely fine, but I feel I'm being pulled in two directions and not giving 100 per cent to anybody. I feel completely torn. I need to work and to provide for Harry, but I also feel terribly guilty that I'm not there. I pine for him and feel this need to be with him constantly. With Leanne's current storyline I'm working long days. Harry wakes up at 7am but I leave the house about 6.30am and when I get home he's usually gone to bed. But I'm not on my own - a lot of the cast have got kids and they tell me it does get easier. I ache for him sometimes, but I think I would be forever kicking myself if I hadn't come back to work. I love being in Coronation Street. I've worked really hard to get this far and this is Harry's future too." When Danson was presented with her return scripts, she was shocked to see that she was returning as a escort girl. Danson added: "I'm not going to pretend that initially thought it was great. Coronation Street has never done a story like that before and I was worried people wouldn't like it. When I read the scripts I thought it just was a funny storyline - Leanne was charging people for her company while they took her out for a slap-up dinner. But when it turned out she carried on after dinner, I thought, 'Oh God!' "Thankfully it's not been seedy and I think she will redeem herself in the end." A Coronation Street insider added: "Soon after arriving back Leanne wonders what the hell she has come back to. There are some cracking storylines lined up for her."

|I suppose it's an open book at the moment. I'd quite like to see Maria and Nick get together. It'll be interesting because working with Adam was lovely. We were really close at the time. He's abroad now so I wonder whether they'll go for someone very similar looking or if they'll go completely in a new direction. I don't think it really matters. Viewers get used to new actors and they accept them. It'll be interesting to see which way they go.|4=Danson explains the potential of Nick's return.

Nick started with Tina, then he moved to Kelly. I'm getting through the whole of the Street, I'll be on to Rita by the end of the year!" Price added that he is expecting a storyline to develop between Nick and Leanne. He added: "You'll see him bump into Leanne soon. I'm sure stuff will come out of that - there's a story there." Asked whether if he wants to see Leanne and Nick to get back together, Price said: "There'd have to be a big journey to get to that point, but yeah, I would. But who knows? I don't know how it's going to go! But I think that would be great. But I think it could also be great if there's someone else on the Street who could come into his life. It's nice to keep spicing things up, really."Rain the 1 21:36, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

• Why do you think that (small amount of your quote additions) is acceptable?Rain the 1 21:44, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

How do you mean acceptable? GSorby – Ping 21:46, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Copyrighted material being copy and pasted over. There is a massive problem with plagiarism on Wikipedia atm - this is a step above it. We are advised to paraphrase, cut things downs etc, go after the most important parts... From an editing point of view, it is not really telling the story either. It is just Danson said, Danson added, Danson also added, Danson also added to.Rain the 1 21:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah I see your point. JuneGloom brought this up with me last week. I wasn't aware of any plagiarism issues but from now on, I will cut down and use only important parts from sources and paraphrase them if possible, even if it is tempting to cut and paste a juicy quote. GSorby – Ping 21:58, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Derek B Quote.

Hi, you know the Derek Branning quote you just uploaded? The one about him beign in a coat, hat, etc, you could upload an image for that. :) MayhemMario 19:36, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I guess so, but we already have two non-free images on that page. Maybe we could remove the image of Beesley and then upload it. I'll ask around first. GSorby – Ping 20:02, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Dear, dear

I really do sometimes wonder why we bother! Haha!

Make the comment more noticeable and what do they do? Just delete it anyway lol! *shakes head* --5 albert square (talk) 01:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

That's what I call ignorance lol! Oh well, Rollback tool to the rescue! GSorby – Ping 12:32, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I think the undo button would suffice, since rollback should only be used for obvious vandalism. - JuneGloom Talk 19:30, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Yup June's right, it would be the undo tool which is exactly what I did. What I've been wondering tonight though is since when we've had a Josh Pascoe on the show! Not aware of any name change for the actor haha!--5 albert square (talk) 23:51, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Orphaned non-free image File:Nick Cotton (1985).jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Nick Cotton (1985).jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. George Ho (talk) 00:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Nick Cotton (1985).jpg

Um... excuse me, but why would you want to upload a newer version to this page? For historical purposes, there is no need to remove it from your watchlist if deleted. For example, the new version was uploaded into File:Cheers cast 1982 bw.jpg by someone else for the Cheers article, and I did not accept that and then reverted that because I don't like someone intruding my image page of a non-free image. Therefore, it evolved into File:Cheerscast1982fullcastwendtratz.jpg, while the other was orphaned and then deleted. Meanwhile, I still have "File:Cheers cast 1982 bw.jpg" in my watchlist. Maybe you should not remove it from your watchlist; instead, if concerned, go to WP:REFUND if an image may be deleted and if you save a name in your watchlist. --George Ho (talk) 05:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I knew this would be a repeat of "Pauline Fowler" image debate in case of a living person. To be honest, that page treats this image as if it were of a mere fictional character; my page treats a "real person" fairly and rationalizes a fair use of the living person. You talk history, but I don't know why history of an image page is that important. Wait... don't try WP:NFR; that page is almost deadbeat. --George Ho (talk) 20:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Dead Man Walking (Body of Proof).jpg

Hi, as your online, does this image have the right rationale, etc? MayhemMario 16:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

That rationale is weak, but it's good enough. Are you sure it qualifies for WP:NFCC#8? GSorby – Ping 17:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Umm... I thin it does, throught the critical commentary. Oh, and lol MayhemMario 20:37, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Lorraine

Trying to not to sound mean, im not sure if Lorraine should have her own article just yet. She has only appeared in 4 episode prior to her return, then a few up untill next week, then later in the year. But, if the character has notablity then I guess her article can be made. Just a heads up, just do not want Wikipedia to be a fansite. I hope I have not offended you in any way, this was not a moan! MayhemMario 16:36, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review for File:Simon Wicks 2012.jpg

I have asked for a deletion review of File:Simon Wicks 2012.jpg. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. --George Ho (talk) 12:30, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Pictures of Den Watts and Simon Wicks

I don't want a repeat of Pauline Fowler and Nick Cotton; I just still wish that images of living people should not be treated as images of mere fictional characters nowadays, and I still hope that replacing image page with another image page is more acceptable, as previous file revisions are orphaned and then deleted. If I give this link (http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/nick-berry-eastenders-return-mirrorcouks-172350), and you only upload it in a same page rather than a new page, there's no turning back, and my plans to replace your images with different pages will go to waste, and my talents.... I don't know. --George Ho (talk) 11:21, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Trying to avoid the same war as Frank Foster (Coronation Street), are there any good images in the source? --George Ho (talk) 17:29, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Janine Butcher

I really think the main image to this article needs changing. She's got a different haircut now, just like Tamwar's got new glasses. It's funny how the characters change over the four-day schedule. 777 — 20:51, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know why I uploaded one of her with straight hair. The hairstyle she had tonight would be more appropriate. I'll look into if for you. GSorby – Ping 22:02, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Are you still looking into it? 777 — 07:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Yep, just waiting for the right angle of her face! lol. GSorby – Ping 10:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)