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Thank you for your additions to Michigan–Michigan State basketball rivalry. Regretably, Wikipedia requires that content be WP:V and your content appears to be WP:OR. Can you please provide a WP:RS before I have to remove the content that you added.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:47, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

TonyTheTiger, I just saw this note. Yes, I understand the dilemma, and I will try to reference the data. For much of it, however, I just used other Wikipedia articles as source. Is there a proper way to source something like this? Thank you. Bnosnhoj(talk) 6:10, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

If you are copying from other wikipedia articles, they are not valid sources. Either copy the sources from the articles that you are copying text from, find new sources or remove the content that is unsourced. Maybe I should just undo what you have done and you can readd anything that you can find a source for.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 07:16, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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Michigan–Ohio State football rivalry

Thanks for expanding that table. What were your sources for them though? Let me know and we can add them in a ref somewhere. Thanks - JohnInDC (talk) 12:03, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

JohnInDC, Thank you for commenting! I'm glad you appreciate the updated table. I've been working on it in my sandbox, and I'm now applying the finished version on the article with sources. Let me know if you had other suggestions; I'd like to begin putting similar tables on other rivalry pages to aid in uniformity across the project. Bnosnhoj(talk) 3:17, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

You changed a lot of figures - like consensus all-Americans - that I didn't see reflected in the sources you cited; also you gave both schools identical post-season all time records, which I don't think is right either. I restored it to the version before your last edits so that you can pin down the sources better. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 05:08, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

JohnInDC, Sorry this is so belated; I've been terribly busy. You'll notice that I've updated the table once more. This time, I think I have enough citations in the right spots. Some sources (like the bowl records) are applicable to many categories (bowl appearances, bowl record, Rose Bowl appearances, etc). You were right; I had OSU's bowl record off by one. I, too, was surprised by how similar they were! With regard to the All-Americans, the discrepancy is due to many players winning the honor multiple times. I chose the player count approach as the category is "All-Americans" versus "Appearances on All-America teams," though this is really a minor detail. The last thing is the numbering due to the 2010 OSU NCAA vacations. I think it is best that we put asterisks erring on the side of inclusion versus exclusion. Wikipedia is not governed by the NCAA, so even if the school nor the NCAA recognize wins that did happen and bowls that were played, we ought to, as an encyclopedic community. We are, of course, obliged to include the asterisk, but only to tell people that the number is contested. I am an International Relations major, so pardon my analogy, but I think this is similar to, say, the Armenian Genocide or the State of Palestine. Neither Turkey nor Azerbaijan recognize the Genocide, and only a handful of states recognize Palestine. Both, however, are reported in an (attempted) unbiased manner on Wikipedia. These, at least, are my thoughts. I hope you have a good Thanksgiving! Bnosnhoj(talk) 23:02, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

The number isn't contested at all. OSU voluntarily surrendered the victories. OSU's official record does not include the vacated games, so they are not properly included in the records of the two teams. This was discussed extensively at the article Talk page (see the archives), where consensus was to exclude the vacated games; and the upshot is encapsulated at Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Vacated victories. So I'll be revising the table to reflect the school's official wins. Your choice to enumerate players rather than slots is fine, I guess, being annotated as it is - though others might disagree. There may be a uniform approach across CFB pages that I"m not aware of. I think what I'll do in that regard is move this entire discussion over to the Talk page, where other editors can weigh in - let's continue the discussion there. JohnInDC (talk) 23:22, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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Template:Rail-interchange

Updated to include Detroit People Mover and M-1 Rail. Check it and see if it works for you. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Wonderfully! Thank you very much! Bnosnhoj (talk) 19:42, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey, so I saw that you updated Template:DTC stations to include Grand Circus Park Station because I moved that page. Should all other stations be added to that template? Does it distinguish between the two lines (DPM/M1)? How exactly do the rail succession templates work? Sorry, I'm just curious. Also thank you so much for your help! Bnosnhoj (talk) 04:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Do you intend to rename Detroit People Mover stations from a suffix of " (Detroit People Mover)" to a simple suffix of "Station"? The conflicts will be Broadway Station which is a disambiguation page, and Financial District Station and Times Square Station which are redirects to other stations. Do you intend to create articles for M-1 Rail stations? This is important because the template {{DTC stations}} establishes a naming convention for all Detroit stations and, before I modified it, the links you created to M-1 stations had the same default as the DPM ones. Secondarywaltz (talk) 11:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I do not intend on moving the other DPM ones because they don't intersect with M-1 other than Grand Circus Park. I also felt safe in doing that, because it wouldn't cause a redirect to another article (it was Detroit-specific enough). I do intend on making articles for all M-1 stations. I did Sibley Station yesterday. Is there a specific way to name them? How should I best move forward? Now here's another interesting tidbit: DPM and M-1 are not related under DTC. They're separate systems. For the purposes of Wikipedia, however, should we pretend they are the same system using different lines?Bnosnhoj (talk) 03:17, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

You have really screwed up the naming conventions. We now have Grand Circus Park Station, Name (Detroit People Mover) and Name Station (M-1 Rail). I can deal with either Name (line name) or Name Station (line name) or even Name Station. So please pick one and let me help you set things up. Secondarywaltz (talk) 05:22, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh gosh, okay, sorry! Let's do Name (line name). I'm usually pretty good about figuring out the technical bits of the editing world here, but I just can't seem to for this one. I can't thank you enough though. Feel free to revert my move of Grand Circus Park Station. The M-1 stations will be moved to follow suit then to, for example Sibley (M-1 Rail) from its current Sibley Station (M-1 Rail). For the possible future though, should another line ever share a station with M-1 or DPM, how do you name the page, as it is no longer just that one line's? Thanks. Bnosnhoj (talk) 05:33, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Okay! An occasional different name can be dealt with, but multiple choices makes things too complex. I'll be back in a minute once I check out if I can get this to work. Secondarywaltz (talk) 05:45, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

That is now a simple default with only one different name. See {{DTC stations}} for the settings. I have another couple of things to work on, but they can wait until tomorrow. Secondarywaltz (talk) 05:52, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

MDOT and template renaming

I have renamed all DTC templates to MDOT to cover the entire state. This will allow for the use of the same structure in other Michigan projects, such as MiTrain. There is no reason to create a different series for each system and, as we have seen, there are some advantages in keeping a familiar standard layout. If you find I have missed something, please fix it. Secondarywaltz (talk) 15:28, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thanks! Bnosnhoj (talk) 15:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thoughts on stations

How about renaming the section "Notable places nearby" to "Destinations" which would justify the station's existence, rather than being merely incidental. While you create the articles, you can leave me to work up the coordinate templates. Please see {{Infobox station}} for the current parameters and usage. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:58, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll use "Destinations" in the new ones and fix the others as well as the current Infoboxes. Canfield (M-1 Rail) will be the first done using these suggestions. Bnosnhoj (talk) 18:09, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hey, I'm really sorry I didn't see this until now. Thank you very much for wanting to include my thoughts, but I echo the decision made, so it's all good by me. Thank you again! Bnosnhoj (talk) 12:34, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

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