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'Pro-Jewish" bias
editHi, I answered to you on the discussion page for the Unified Church. Saying that jews admit Jesus as "king of Israel" is as invalid as to say that christians "reject Jesus as their saviour". Jews do not believe in the divinity of Jesus and do not believe in his relation to the house of David. When they do so, they became christians, on their faith. Moreso cutting edge as a reliable source not really convincing... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertlberman (talk • contribs) 15:47, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
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Sun Myung Moon
editIn you reversion of my edits to the Sun Myung Moon article intended to remove bias, you put back in information in a way that was demonstrably incorrect and did not clear up the bias. Shemp Howard, Jr. (talk) 04:13, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Moonie wedding
editHello Borovv. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Moonie wedding, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: I agree with RHaworth that this is a reasonable redirect. If you think it should go, take it to WP:RFD. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 11:40, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Moon Bio
editsee talk page of article. EBY (talk) 03:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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Sun Myung Moon bio
editHello. Please do not remove sourced information about his wives and children from this bio. Thanks. Jokestress (talk) 14:48, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- Your interpretation of the BLP policy is in error, and I have restored the information. There is long precedent for including well-sourced neutral information about prominent people's families. The materials are sourced to reliable news outlets. We can discuss further at Talk:Sun Myung Moon, but we do not leave out well-sourced information that is relevant. Adherents distinguish between True Family and other family, making those other family members worthy of inclusion. Jokestress (talk) 21:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- Hello. The warning template you added to my talk page is not accurate, as neither I nor the Sun Myung Moon article is subject to binding arbitration. If you would like to discuss the edits in order to reach consensus we can do so at Talk:Sun Myung Moon. It is standard practice here to include a list of people's children (see Angelina Jolie#Children), even if some of them died young (see Francis A. Nixon). I take BLP matters seriously and believe all of my edits adhere strictly to policy. Thanks. Jokestress (talk) 01:40, 30 2012 (UTC)
- Please join me at Talk:Sun Myung Moon or at the BLP Noticeboard if you would like to discuss content. You are engaging in an edit war which is not based on policy, but rather on your personal feelings about this subject. We are not going to reach consensus if you continue to remove reliable sources. Thanks. Jokestress (talk) 03:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Please consider this a first warning regarding removal of sourced information. I strongly recommend you stop editing Unification Church-related articles while your multiple objections are being addressed. Your pattern of behavior is starting to get disruptive and is not conducive to reaching consensus. This can lead to your being blocked. I am trying to work with you, but you need to stop removing the names of Moon's wives and children and reliable sources with that information simply because you don't wish to have them included. Please join me at Talk:Sun Myung Moon or at the BLP Noticeboard if you would like to discuss content. Jokestress (talk) 06:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Please do not threaten me with the possibility of being blocked. You are in the noticeboard for BLP violation, not me, so it's unapropriate of you to recommend me smth: i am flattered, thanks, but i dont need that - it's an administrator's jurisdiction to deside a block, not yours, not mine. Please follow a WP:COMMONSENSE: the last source actually does not say about adultery, it says about misunderstanding because of possible translation hardships and power misuse from court officials, but you put the misleading citation torn out of context. See WP:COI, WP:ATTACK and WP:NEEDSMOARDRAMA. DONT FORGET WP:BLP Borovv (talk) 07:15, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Please consider this a first warning regarding removal of sourced information. I strongly recommend you stop editing Unification Church-related articles while your multiple objections are being addressed. Your pattern of behavior is starting to get disruptive and is not conducive to reaching consensus. This can lead to your being blocked. I am trying to work with you, but you need to stop removing the names of Moon's wives and children and reliable sources with that information simply because you don't wish to have them included. Please join me at Talk:Sun Myung Moon or at the BLP Noticeboard if you would like to discuss content. Jokestress (talk) 06:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Please join me at Talk:Sun Myung Moon or at the BLP Noticeboard if you would like to discuss content. You are engaging in an edit war which is not based on policy, but rather on your personal feelings about this subject. We are not going to reach consensus if you continue to remove reliable sources. Thanks. Jokestress (talk) 03:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- Hello. The warning template you added to my talk page is not accurate, as neither I nor the Sun Myung Moon article is subject to binding arbitration. If you would like to discuss the edits in order to reach consensus we can do so at Talk:Sun Myung Moon. It is standard practice here to include a list of people's children (see Angelina Jolie#Children), even if some of them died young (see Francis A. Nixon). I take BLP matters seriously and believe all of my edits adhere strictly to policy. Thanks. Jokestress (talk) 01:40, 30 2012 (UTC)
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POV thing on Unification Church
editSince we can't reach an agreement, I've notified admins, so they'll decide i guess. No hard feelings. Here: Wikipedia:Administrators noticeboard#Unification_Church --78.134.143.236 (talk) 04:43, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
June 2012
editYour recent editing history at Sun Myung Moon shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Bbb23 (talk) 23:18, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- I am doing the right thing editing the article of BLP with a sourced content and without hurting the subject of the article within the rules and spirit of WP. The thing is, you rollback my revisions to curb the article from my revisions, and that might be considered as WP:COI because a motivation is not good after all the possible good faiths considered. Please, stop haunting me. I am ready to talk to you when my feeling of a COI will disappear or when mediator will intervene. Yours, Borovv (talk) 23:39, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, you have no clue about what you are doing on many levels. Nonetheless, I suggest you address the most recent issue on the article's Talk page where I started a new topic.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:43, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, "you have no clue about what you are doing on many levels" without specification sounds like cliche. A professional editor with 3+years of experience should be more specific before making such strong accusations. Instead of accusing, help me constructively, not destructively (no hard feelings, i just mean, even though you consider your faith as good it seems to others as not good). Yours, Borovv (talk) 23:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- I realize my comment was harsh, but I stand by it. Your citations are often malformed. You use copyrighted material. You use unreliable sources. You insert material that is irrelevant or insufficiently relevant to the article. There you go, specifics, at least all I can remember off the top of my head. Don't ask me for diffs, though. The edit history and my edit summaries are clear enough.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- Wo-wo-wo-wo... Still a cliche without diffs. Your rollbacks with the same accusations turned up a lie hoping nobody cares. Don't ask me for diffs, though. Borovv (talk) 00:08, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
- I realize my comment was harsh, but I stand by it. Your citations are often malformed. You use copyrighted material. You use unreliable sources. You insert material that is irrelevant or insufficiently relevant to the article. There you go, specifics, at least all I can remember off the top of my head. Don't ask me for diffs, though. The edit history and my edit summaries are clear enough.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, "you have no clue about what you are doing on many levels" without specification sounds like cliche. A professional editor with 3+years of experience should be more specific before making such strong accusations. Instead of accusing, help me constructively, not destructively (no hard feelings, i just mean, even though you consider your faith as good it seems to others as not good). Yours, Borovv (talk) 23:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, you have no clue about what you are doing on many levels. Nonetheless, I suggest you address the most recent issue on the article's Talk page where I started a new topic.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:43, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
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Sockpuppetry accusation
editI see that you have accused Jun.rhee of being a sockpuppet, though you have not, as far as I can see, said of whom, nor do you appear to have said what the evidence is. If you do have any good reason to suspect sockpuppetry, then I suggest taking the case to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations, and presenting your reasons there. Making vague suggestions of sockpuppetry without specifying whose sockpuppet or giving any evidence is not very helpful. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:50, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
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Moon Edits
editPlease do not remove information from articles. Wikipedia is not censored, and content is not removed on the sole grounds of perceived offensiveness. Please discuss this issue on the article's talk page to reach consensus rather than continuing to remove the disputed material. If the content in question involves images, you also have the option to configure Wikipedia to hide the images that you may find offensive. Thank you.
Hello. This template warning is specifically about the edits you have made on the Sun Myung Moon article, especially in inserting poorly-cited pro-Moon verbiage (see May 16 2012) and in removing information you have deemed derogatory regardless of cite (see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sun_Myung_Moon&oldid=485134480). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and as such must adhere to neutrality. In good faith, please understand that using Wikipedia to reflect only what you wish to see about a subject undermines both that subject and the encyclopedia as a whole. EBY (talk) 13:34, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Topic ban
editFollowing consensus at the administrators' noticeboard, the following topic ban has been logged and implemented:
- Based on persistent non-neutral, disruptive edits, User:Borovv is topic-banned from editing Unification Church-related articles, broadly construed, including but not limited to all articles of the Sun Myung Moon family. Borovv shall maintain the text of the ban and a link to the discussion at the top of his user page.
This topic ban is indefinite. It may be appealed by following the processes described here: WP:UNBAN. An appeal is far more likely to succeed if you are willing and able to edit constructively in other areas for a time to demonstrate your ability to edit neutrally and work constructively with other editors.
Please be advised that editing in defiance of the ban without first successfully appealing it may result in a block of your account. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:58, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Excuse me, sir.
editExcuse me, sir. This file has no source information. Source information must be provided so that the copyright status can be verified by others. Would you tell me about source of this photo? and plz add source. Thank you. --Idh0854 (talk) 22:48, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
- Annyeonghaseyo! Mianhajiman, yeongoreul chal mollayo. Hangukmaldo. Chega sajineul chikgoseoyo. Kamsahamnida. Borovv (talk) 00:54, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
- I noticed that you have posted comments in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. --Bbb23 (talk) 01:03, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
- What is the your mother language? Well, Are you copyright holder of the photo? Self? p.s. 한국어를 구사하실 수 있다면, 로마자가 아닌 한글을 사용해주세요. 덧붙여서, 영어에 비해 한국어가 편하시다면 한국어 위키백과에서 논의를 진행하실 수도 있습니다. --Idh0854 (talk) 09:40, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
- No copyright, it's waved, because it's donation to WP, see the Own work template, if you didn't notice it before. Best wishes, Borovv (talk) 10:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
- I don't understand, Borovv. You say the image is a "donation to WP". I don't even know what that means. You also say in the image file itself that it is your own work. For it to be you own work, you would have had to have been at the meeting between Moon and Kim with a camera and taken the picture yourself. Is that what happened?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:30, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
- Exactly. Borovv (talk) 12:25, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
- No copyright, it's waved, because it's donation to WP, see the Own work template, if you didn't notice it before. Best wishes, Borovv (talk) 10:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
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Based on what looks like pretty clear WP:SPA disregard for topic ban, I am mentioning your name for consideration. I recommend reading up on what consitutes WP:COI and on how to properly WP:APPEAL a ban. JJB 14:30, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
- Please stop edit warring on Unification Church - arguments through reverts are disruptive; additionally, you appear to be on a topic ban. Thanks. EBY (talk)
Violation of topic ban: 24 hour block
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Blocked for sockpuppetry
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