Bouru

November 2012

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Conflict of interest

Hello,

First of all, if you are Bill Fawcett, you should review our conflict of interest policy before continuing to edit articles such as Bill Fawcett (writer) and Jody Lynn Nye.

Secondly, if you believe there is material in the article which truly is professionally or personally damaging, rather than clumsily removing nearly all the content of an article, you should contact someone else to review it for you and explain which parts are damaging and why. Thank you. 50.141.204.194 (talk) 15:59, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Early D&D

I was reviewing the source which connected you to playing in early D&D. The quote involving you supposedly playing in Arneson's campaign is as such:

"Mayfair's earliest connection to roleplaying was through another company; for a time they shared offices and warehouse space with FASA. But early on, Bill Fawcett decided to get Mayfair into the roleplaying field too. Fawcett was an RPG veteran who had played in Dave Arneson's original Blackmoor campaign, using photocopies of the proto Dungeons & Dragons rule. Thus it was natural that he encouraged Mayfair to move into that space."

For the sake of argument, Shannon Appelcline cites his fact checkers for Mayfair as being Pete Fenlon and Ray Winninger, and I am not sure exactly from what source he got the part about you playing in Arneson's campaign. If you are sure he got that part wrong, I will let him know so he can make corrections on further revisions of the book.

On the same page of the book, he does offer the following quote from an interview with you, titled "Bill Fawcett: Admitting to Influence", from Crescent Blues #6 (December, 2000):

"I was fortunate to be in the Chicago / Milwaukee area when the first Dungeons & Dragons game was being played from mimeographed sheets Gary [Gygax] had passed out to the group he was leading. And one of that group began running a D&D campaign that I was in. Interestingly enough he was an IRS agent—well, he could enforce the die rolls. That's Lawful Evil."

So I'm assuming it would be fair enough to include something based on that quote. BOZ (talk) 16:19, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Bill here: Pete and Ray were never part of Mayfair Games. They are good people who had a different game company, but the info on my being in the Arneson campaign is just wrong. It was just not Dave's campaign, which was played in Lake Geneva and then Minneapolis, not Milwaukee. If you want to put that in more clearly, so it does not appear I am claiming special importance or illegally using copyrighted materials of a friend, np. Likely Pete and Ray connect our having hired Dave later when we had some cooperative ventures with their company. The quote on testing new material that was mimeographed and was sent to a few judges (along with the using the books and I was just a player.) in a Milwaukee campaign is unclear, but accurate in that detail. As written it appears we were bootlegging the books, which we were not. I still have my boxed set.

As to doing a change, I have for five months and about 30 correspondence with several Wiki staff on this. I have tried every avenue. Emails, letters, other people sourcing changes, letters to the board, everything... The robot keeps returning the misinformation, or someone does, even after your people corrected it. Even your staff person deleted the entire entry once (gone for two weeks) it came back identical to what your staffer agreed was incorrect. I support the objective, just asking for the material be accurate and stay accurate. If this is for the world and for history, I just want it right and to not make me look more important, or more dishonest, than the reality. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:D:8F00:810:2429:2748:B951:8B7F (talk) 17:12, 22 January 2015 (UTC)