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Stanley Holloway

If you can spare some time over the next week or two, I'd be glad of any comments you might care to make at the peer review of this article. It isn't one of mine, really, but Ssilvers and I have been helping a inexperienced editor to get his (excellent) material into Wiki-shape, and the Boulton touch would be especially well received. In particular, I'd be glad of your view on whether it looks ready(ish) for GAC. Tim riley (talk) 06:54, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I'll be very pleased to look at this - I seem to remember that Stanley Holloway was a great favourite of my father's. It may take me a day or two, as I am struggling a little with the egregious Grainger and also have some review commitments at FAC and PR. On the briefest of inspections, I am very doubtful that the two early photographs are PD in the US, and I have some doubts about the later one of Holloway and his wife at the airport. This is also from 1967, and has the opaque message in its description "The original picture was taken in 1962 taken by me in 2011". Maybe friend Jappalang should be asked to vet the images? I'll certainly check out the prose. Brianboulton (talk) 08:50, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Better Than Today peer review (2)

I responded. Please continue. I Help, When I Can. [12] 20:47, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

National Broadband Network

Since your FA review of National Broadband Network, the article went through main changes. Is there a chance you can revisit your review to provide more feedback? Thanks. — [d'oh] 11:01, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I didn't really do a full review. I mentioned three points: nature of lead, positioning of images and lack of retrieval dates in the references. You have addressed all of these. However, there are quite a few issues raised by other reviewers still outstanding, and I'd rather wait until these have been addressed before looking in more detail. Brianboulton (talk) 23:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 2 May 2011

Messiah plans

As it happens, just the other day I was putting together on spec a few paras about the recording history of Messiah, which are here if you care to cast an eye over them. I'd like to do the performance history, partic the 19th and 20th centuries, if no-one else bags it. (Anyone for Ebenezer Prout?) I'll comb JSTOR for Ferrier stuff while I still have access. Tim riley (talk) 10:47, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Our score has "Part the first" instead of "Part I", how should that be mentioned (probably not used throughout)? Also the parts don't have titles such as The Annunciation, The Passion, The Aftermath, which look misleading anyway, the annunciation typically associated with Gabriel talking to Mary, Part the second dealing with much more than The Passion (Hallelujah), and Aftermath??? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Tim, I'd be very pleased for any Ferrier stuff which you can mine from JSTOR. As to the Messiah, I will, at least initially, work on the general history (for which I have plenty of material) and an analysis of the music, for which at present I am less well-endowed. So maybe JSTOR can help here? Any bits of info that Gerda can provide will be more than welcome. Now, back to Percy. Brianboulton (talk) 15:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
At the moment I would like not to provide but take away: those "titles", no aftermath if possible, but am not sure if they have significance, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Ferrier stuff now sent to you by email. I've already secured the articles on Messiah, and will send them when you're ready to begin on it. Tim riley (talk) 13:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Many thanks. I've not had a chance to check these yet, but I'm sure they will be of great use. Brianboulton (talk) 15:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Covered Bridges

Thanks for the note - it is Madison County, Iowa, which really does have many covered bridges, though the rest of the film is fictional. I have not seen it - I generally like Clint Eastwood as a director, but have not gotten to this film (yet?). I do hope to get the long awaited Buttonwood Covered Bridge to at least PR by the end of the month as I should have a bit more time to devote to article creation. ALthough there are about 20 Moadison COunties in the US, Pennsylvania does not have one. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 13:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your kind words and all your help, as ever. As I said, let me know if I can help when you do find time to do Larwood, as I owe you lots of favours. I've a few things in the pipeline, but my next "big" bit of work is hopefully on Ranji, which is going to be a big job. After that, it may be time for something other than cricket if I can summon up the courage! --Sarastro1 (talk) 19:49, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

White ship and all that...

Henry I had like 20 illigit kids - Richard was one of them. William was his only legit son, so yeah, Henry of Huntingdon is correct in mentioning two sons of Henry dying in the White Ship, but William de Chesney is also correct in saying that "Henry's only legitimate son, William, had died in 1120." Just figured I'd let you know (grins) Ealdgyth - Talk 00:30, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Flourished doesn't mean I know a death date. It just means he is attested for those dates (in this case 1142 to 1161. 1161 isn't a death date - it's the last attestation of William. That's what the link to flourished next to the dates is supposed to tell someone who clicked through to the article. Ealdgyth - Talk 01:01, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Even I knew that, Duh! Malleus Fatuorum 01:04, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, well, Brian specializes in expeditions where they eat dogs (and ponies!) and fat ladies singing... Ealdgyth - Talk 01:13, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Here's a tip. Never eat their livers. Malleus Fatuorum 01:19, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Amen. Apterygial talk 01:56, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, well, I haven't done a dog-eating article for a couple of years, though I'm threatening a return later this year, in view of the 100th anniversary of Amundsen's farthest south. Amundsen was a famous dog-muncher; after a particularly tasty stew he would say: "That really was the dog's bollocks". He'd say it in Norwegian, of course. Brianboulton (talk) 08:49, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Quite happy to take dogs to feed to the remaining dogs too. A fairly ruthless policy by any measure. Apterygial talk 12:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
It's a dog eat dog world, after all.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:49, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Is that what "Every dog has his day" means? Chien du jour? Ruhrfisch ><>°° 11:24, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
개의 고환 (Korean menu translation from Babelfish). Tim riley (talk) 21:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 9 May 2011

Percy

Will do. Tim riley (talk) 20:44, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Tonight or tomorrow.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:47, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll have a look in the next couple of days. --Sarastro1 (talk) 20:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Three good men and true. Thanks! Brianboulton (talk) 22:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
That'll be Sarastro at third man, Wehwalt at cover point, and me at deep square leg then. A few lobs from the boundary now delivered; more to come tomorrow. Tim riley (talk) 23:20, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Tim, can you tell me where you delivered your lobs? I can't find them, and the link to the peer review has vanished from the article's talkpage. Brianboulton (talk) 23:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Lobs are all there and recorded on the history page (only typos tonight - step-outside quibbles to come tomorrow) but I noticed that the PR header hasn't appeared at the head of the page. I think you may have inadvertently omitted the {{subst:PR}} from the talk page. I'd add it myself, but am not sure if that might cause the world to end. Tim riley (talk) 23:57, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Managed to fix it, I think. At leeast, there's a link on the talkpage now. Brianboulton (talk) 00:23, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
OK - I never found Tim riley's comments, but see the PR has been successfully (re)opened. If you want I can delete te second PR and reopen the first. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:25, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
The PR seems up and running now, so I'd say leave it as it is. Thanks anyway Brianboulton (talk) 10:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I've been delayed by RL stuff but hope to get to the PR tonight or tomorrow.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, RL sucks. Whenever you're ready. Brianboulton (talk) 22:50, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Ready and reading. You are getting another disinterested opinion as early 20th century music (outside of opera) is one of my weak points. When I was involved in university quiz competitions, this was the sort of thing I looked desperately down the table at our music specialist.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

We R Who We R

Thank you for reviewing the article. I believe all concerns have been addressed or responded to. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 22:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Again, a reply. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 20:44, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 May 2011

Ferrier

I have just run across a possibly useful quote by Britten, which I've emailed you. Tim riley (talk) 11:24, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I can use that. Despite what Ben says, there are indeed recordings of KF singing BB. Excerpts from The Rape of Lucretia were recorded at a live performance in 1946, and Decca have issued a 1949 recording of the Spring Symphony. There are also odd folk arrangements: "O Waly, Waly" and "Come Ye Not From Newcastle", both of which I have on disc. Some of these recordings were only made public many years later, perhaps after Ben's death in 1976, so he would certainly have been unaware of them in the mid-fifties. Brianboulton (talk) 14:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Good! I find that strangely touching. I see that in her honour Bruno Walter flew over specially to conduct the Hallé (JB conducted the second half) in a memorial concert for charity at the Festival Hall in May 1954. I'll send the details if you haven't got, but want, them. Tim riley (talk) 18:45, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Please send, if it's no trouble. I may have it already, but might as well be sure. Brianboulton (talk) 18:55, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Done. Tim riley (talk) 19:22, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Are you intending to do Britten? That would be good news indeed. Brianboulton (talk) 20:20, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, but I'm sidling up to it slowly – it's quite daunting. I thought there was a pile of reading about Elgar, but Britten spawned an entire publishing industry post mortem. A morning a week at the British Library is the recommended maximum dose for the adult patient. Tim riley (talk)

If you are looking into KF's recordings, the excellent complete Decca recording lists may be useful. A 5 meg download, but worth the wait. See here Tim riley (talk) 20:47, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

I would love to see what's in this file. Unfortunately my computer (which is very temperamental with PDF files) refuses to open it. I will try later & hope the laptop's in a better mood. Brianboulton (talk) 21:41, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
(Later): I have managed to open the file. It is extremely long, takes my overworked, underpowered laptop about 8 minutes to download. Although highly detailed and informative, the information is quite hard to access, being arranged in strict chronological order. The only way you can pick up, say, the Ferrier recordings, is to go through the entire 10 years or so during which she was active. I am not at present planning an exhaustive discography as part of my Ferrier project, but it will be very useful to have this information handy. Brianboulton (talk) 00:18, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Sunday Times review of Leonard book. Unfortunately, the Newsbank facility I use courtesy of my local library is inconsistent about giving page numbers, and none is given for this article. I have never cited the URLs for Newsbank items as they are not, I feel sure, helpful to the Wikipedia reader, being about as user-friendly as razor wire, but if you think you need to include this one it is http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/InfoWeb?p_product=UKNB&p_theme=aggregated5&p_action=doc&p_docid=0F9259F32D454444&p_docnum=1&p_queryname=12

This link leads to a request for a password, so sadly I don't think it is useful, but thanks, any way. I'll have to try another way to find that elusive page number. Brianboulton (talk) 12:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
I tried searching the ST archive, which theoretically should provide the info, but I think the "free search" system is down at present; it wouldn't let me in. I'll keep trying. Brianboulton (talk) 15:47, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

made the reccomended changes, anything else?(Lihaas (talk) 22:02, 19 May 2011 (UTC)).

OK, thanks. I'll look again shortly (v. busy just now!) Brianboulton (talk) 22:34, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Maps

I've started pushing on with Far Eastern party today, but I wondering: who do I see about creating a map for the party's route? I wouldn't have a clue how to draw one, but I have quite a few images from books that could be used as a guide. Thanks, Apterygial talk 06:17, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, The Home of the Blizzard does not have a map of the Far Eastern Party's route (at least, my cheap reprint doesn't; perhaps the original edition did). You have to be careful about using existing maps as a guide, unless you are certain they were published before 1923. What I used to do in similar circumstances was to print off a Google map of the appropriate section of the Antarctic, then mark in pen and ink the specific features and travel lines that I required. I would upload this as a guiding image; one or other of my friendly map-makers would then use this to produce a quality map, as I was never able to do the skilled work myself. If you can do the preliminaries, I'll be more than happy to ask on your behalf for help with the finishing. Brianboulton (talk) 13:33, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
My copy has a map, which was apparently adapted from this map, published by the Royal Geographical Society in 1914. I had a look at Google maps, but the trouble is the landscape has changed in the 100-or-so years since the Far Eastern party (for example, at 78km-long piece of ice came off the Mertz Glacier last year). Would this map be enough for a cartographer (what I've done in the past is email scans from books to the other user)? Apterygial talk 23:59, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
In all honesty I can't see that old map being much use. Take a look here; this is an example of what I was talking about. The coastline features are not spot-on accurate, but the map is clear and does the job. Something like that would I think be a lot better than trying to spruce up a faded (and poorly drawn) old map. But you must decide. Brianboulton (talk) 00:26, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
File:Route of the Far Eastern party (crop).png
First try.
I've had a long look at Google maps, and I can't see it working. There is simply no detail in the map, no points marked, the two massive glaciers barely visible at all (see, for example, this, where Cape Denison is about a third of the way down from the top, and a third from the left, and their furthest point a similar distance from the bottom right corner of the map). The RGS is not too bad when expanded, and all I'd require is a trace of the coast, their route (not the two others marked on the map) and a few locations. Unlike the Google map, it also shows the glaciers inland of the coast.
By the way, I was wondering if you were interested in an image of Percy Grainger's grave. I'm in Adelaide, and the West Terrace Cemetery is not too far out of my way. I'd be happy to do it, by way of thanks for your help here. Apterygial talk 12:12, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Your decision on the map - let's see how it turns out. On Grainger, thanks for your kind offer. There is an image of Grainger's tombstone towards the end of the article; if you can take a better one I'd be happy to use it, but I don't think you should go too much out of your way. Brianboulton (talk) 18:19, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
I gave the map a shot. Obviously it needs fiddling with, but I'm reasonably happy with it. Blue is the full party, red Mawson and Mertz, green Mawson alone. Apterygial talk 10:32, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
  • An excellent first try, I'd say. Can I suggest the following:-
    • Direction arrows on the travel lines
    • Attach dates to key events, e.g. Ninnis's death, Mertz's death
    • Include some latitude/longitude lines, and a general NSEW indicator, to help the reader's orientation
    • A colours key within the caption - I'm sure you intend this anyway.

If this is your unaided work, you're well ahead of me in mapmaking skills! Brianboulton (talk) 15:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

The Magdalen Reading

Hi Brain, when you get a chance can you review the FAC for above, we have run through each of the points raised.[1]. Thanks. Ceoil 20:44, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 May 2011

Main page appearance

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on May 26, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 26, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 19:48, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

O God, just what I needed! Vandals, trivia experts....please lay off! At least the blurb looks good. Brianboulton (talk) 20:05, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Very pleased to see the old cuss on the front page today. Another winner from the Boulton stable! Tim riley (talk) 12:10, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Well done!--Wehwalt (talk) 12:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm not lookin' until the day is over. Can't stand the strain. But thanks for your good wishes anyway. Brianboulton (talk) 13:16, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Grainger pics

File:Percy Grainger's tombstone.jpg

First, congratulations on your latest FA. Second, I visited the cemetery today, and took this image. There's also File:Aldridge family vault (Percy Grainger).jpg, which is the vault itself. You're free to use them, and certainly free not to. Apterygial talk 11:58, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the good wishes; the promotion took me by surprise as I wasn't expecting it yet. The Grainger tombstone image is already in the article; the Aldridge family vault makes a nice pic, but the information relating to Grainger is hard to read and is partly obscured. So I think it's best to leave things as they are. Brianboulton (talk) 14:10, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
No worries. Apterygial talk 00:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

The Magdalen Reading

Hi Brian, I just wanted to drop you a note thanking you for the extremely helpful review of The Magdalen Reading. It's a better article now than when it was submitted to FAC. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 15:06, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

List of Phil Ochs songs

Thank you for your peer review comments. I really appreciate it. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 16:28, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

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What's with these email prompts

Can someone who watches this page please explain why, every time something is posted here, I get a prompt in my emails? This has only started recently; can I stop it, do you know? Brianboulton (talk) 00:15, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

In your preferences, under "User profile", untick "E-mail me when my user talk page is changed". Apterygial talk 00:20, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, done! Brianboulton (talk) 08:46, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Waugh's signature and Ferrier's photographs

Congratulations on the recognition of Percy as featured quality.

I think it might be safer to place Waugh's signature on Wikipedia under the {{PD-text}} reasoning; while the US might consider a signature as simply text ('typeface') that lacks creative originality, the UK considers them eligible as pieces of art if complex enough (see commons:Commons:When to use the PD-signature tag).

As for Ferrier, yes, the fair use rationale and information for the current lede image are very much lacking. An image certain on its publication date and copyright owner would be the frontispiece in her biography (see here, straight to scan).

Unless there is much significant critical commentary on her appearance as Orfeo, I doubt the use of such an image can be justified here. At the moment, there is only text to the degree of "she sang Orfeo", which does not warrant the use of a copyrighted image.

I am not too certain yet, but this advertisement might give yield images that might be "free". Supposedly under US law, advertisements not by the publisher in a collective work should bear their own individual copyright notices to qualify for protection (see {{PD-ad}}). This, however, depends on whether those ad images of Ferrier were first published in Musical America. If the ad (or its photographs) was already published abroad (i.e. the advertisement reused those images), then PD-ad does not qualify. Jappalang (talk) 00:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I have changed the licence tag on the Waugh signature to PD-text. The Ferrier portrait from Win's book is a little on the dark side - can it be lightened? Otherwise there are several good photos in this book, including one credited to Paul Shilabeer and dated to Edinburgh 1952, which I can scan. There is also a very nice Cecil Beaton shot of her singing, dated 1951, in the Ferrier memoir edited by Neville Cardus. On the Orfeo image, I have not yet got that far in expanding the text, but there will be a lot of significant comment related to her appearances in this role, which was central to her later career. I suggest we consider the validity of a fair us rationale when my expansion is more developed. It would be great to use the advertisement to illustrate her American tours; is there a way we can establish whether the images were previously published? Brianboulton (talk) 10:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
The Waugh signature could still be problematic there on Commons (depending on how the country of origin and how creatively original Waugh's signature can be construed), which is why I recommended a local upload; but unless someone wants to challenge it on those grounds...
I think the best starting point for Ferrier is to get rid of the current two images. Scan one image (the best encyclopaedic photograph of Ferrier) and use it as the lede image. Note that I meant "physical" appearance (as illustrated by the photograph) when referring to the Orfeo image, and not just that she appeared in the role. As for the advertisement, the two photographs are likely publicity shots, so if they are seen in pre-1949 non-US publications then it is likely they would still be copyrighted. The central photograph is likely copyrighted; twas a publicity photograph (and it is more believable to take it as a non-US work based on her nationality and base of operations) and has been used on album and DVD covers (those might have the actual photographer's name on them).[2][3] The other photograph could be of her with Bruno Walter based on this shot in the same place from a different angle and time, which could prove interesting... One wonders whether TIME or LIFE sent a photographer there, or Ferrier's or Walter's publicist was selling photographs around. Jappalang (talk) 13:05, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Logarithm FAC source review

Hi, you once did a source and citation review of Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Logarithm/archive1. Could you please kindly confirm whether your review is still up to date and/or your concerns are adressed? SandyGeorgia asked me to ping you. Thank you, Jakob.scholbach (talk) 15:05, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

It was many and many a year ago...I didn't realise the nom was still alive. I have updated my sources comments, and good luck to you. Brianboulton (talk) 15:48, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

TFA

Ah, don't know if you've noticed, but Raul's scheduled Gianni Schicchi for tomorrow, 31 May. I haven't received a notice, I was just doing my usual cleanup at TFA/R and happened to check to see what he had scheduled.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:19, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Incidentally, with the orange beer pissed off, I'll be nomming Mercury dime on Thursday. I spent yesterday morning on an image hunt and smoothing the text, but an early look from you would be nice. No great hurry. What with all the drama and individual requests, I haven't had time to look at PR yet but I will this week and do a couple of interesting ones. It will be coins until I get Kenesaw Mountain Landis ready for PR, I am hoping to have it there early next week, though I am not sure on that one. This one's turning into a major project. I haven't even started on his commissionership (though there is old text there) and it is already 50K, I think it will double that, justifiably.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
I had not seen Raul's choice, but I only got 24 hours notice of Waugh's TFA. For Schicchi I shall observe my new head-down approach, and not look at it until the day is over. You no doubt are made of sterner stuff. I wondered what happened to the orange beer, but I see now it was a voluntary withdrawal. I will try to look at Mercury dime before Thursday. PR is having a bad time at the moment; not only is there a reviewer famine but nearly all the articles in the backlog are pop culture or sports lists. The only interesting ones that come up seem to be yours and mine (and the odd medieval bishop). Brianboulton (talk) 10:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
I am afraid that I can't get into the bishops, and she does not need my help that much, being a much better writer. Still, I shall see what I can do. I am on a research and images trip, working on Landis at the Hall of Fame tomorrow, then going to Saint-Gaudens' house in New Hampshire for images of the models of the coins designed by him (all safely PD, even if they were not actually issued, he's been dead 103 years) and then venturing into Canada to visit a couple of historic sites relating to my interest in postwar Canadian politics. I shall be home at the weekend, but I do not tend to go out much in the evening, so still time for peer reviews.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:07, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on May 31, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 31, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! ۞ Tbhotch & (ↄ), Problems with my English? 17:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Tomorrow, the world!

Boulton Wanderers 2 - Everton (my team) 1 - After your Waugh and Gianni Schicchi I have Sir E Elgar on the front page on Thursday. This is my last territorial claim in Europe. Tim riley (talk) 18:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

It's really Wanderers 1½ Everton 1, since Wehwalt (a keen Beckenbauer fan) was coauthor of Schicchi. I was a Liverpool fan in the 1970s – St John, Toshack, Keegan, Dalgliesh and we were the dog's whatsits back then. Can't remember the Everton squad I'm afraid. But I shall be glad to see old Eddie on the front page next Thursday. Maybe Delius soon. Brianboulton (talk) 23:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Actually, I am a West Brom supporter (I try to get there every year or two, most recently for the Arsenal match in April) and am slowly accumulating sources to take a shot at their history article down the line.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Today my world

Thank you and your co-author for the talk of the day, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

For my part, my pleasure. One of my favourite works.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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