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Welcome to Wikipedia. The project's content policies require that all articles be written from a neutral point of view, and not introduce bias or give undue weight to viewpoints. Please bear this in mind when making edits such as your recent edit to Battle of Karbala. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Alan the Roving Ambassador (talk) 23:06, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you Alan, but I've been around. Where do I address you? The edits were not biased, they are factual corrections of incorrect reporting on the pages of wikipedia. Right now, this page has Husain bin Ali's name written without a reference. How can this be, when the Battle of Karbala is all about Husain bin Ali? U do not know about it, I do. So my bringing my information to this page has to be valued, and not shunned. Abbas the Knowledge Seeker: 29 Jan 2011
Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Al-Mukhtar. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you.--Toddy1 (talk) 13:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hello Toddy, I'll have to study up the procedures for listing references, and looking up versions, because I believe you are mistaken in your impression that I added my own commentary to the Al-Mukhtar page. I am a student of the history of Islam since the age of 18, when I realized that there was a lot of misrepresentation about this part of our human heritage and middle-eastern history. So my updates were merely historical fact that is considered common-knowledge in a large part of the world, with over 100 Million people. Inaccuracies have to have a way of being eliminated, but to call the corrections of a knowledgeable person "commentary" cannot be wikipedia's means of gathering information and forming a compendium of human knowledge. Abbas the Knowledge Seeker: 29 Jan 2011
- The additions certainly were not neutral point of view. Expressions like "unjust massacre" and "bring to justice" are very much POV phrases. I judge from your edits that you believe that the Caliph was wrong, and those rebelling against him were right. You are fully entitled to have that point of view, however Wikipedia has a neutral point of view policy. Either the article needs neutral phrasing, or it needs to explain both points of view fairly.
- Because the additions were uncited, they appeared to be your commentary. If you were to find citations for your commentary on the battle, the most appropriate way of adding it would be in a separate section explaining that this is the point of view of.... If you are going add that, it would be a good idea to also add another section (with citations) explaining other rival POVs.
- Please try to make additions to the article such that the article conforms to Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy.
- When you make posts, even on your own talk page, please sign them in the conventional way, as it makes it easier for other editors to follow. (The welcome section explains how to do this.)--Toddy1 (talk) 13:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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