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Proposed deletion of Charles Edward Lincoln III

The article Charles Edward Lincoln III has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

This article does not meet the general notability guidelines - for inclusion, an article requires significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The only source here is a primary source, hence the article is not verifiable.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.  Chzz  ►  03:52, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

October 2009

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   Your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline from Wikipedia. The external link you added or changed is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. I removed the following link(s): http://charleslincoln3.wordpress.com/ (matching the regex rule \bwordpress\.com).
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Articles for deletion nomination of Charles Edward Lincoln III

I have nominated Charles Edward Lincoln III, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Edward Lincoln III. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Tan | 39 14:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Identity

Are you Charles Edward Lincoln III? Tan | 39 23:48, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

No I am clearly not my initials are CEALIV not CELIII.

Are you related? Tan | 39 00:04, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

No I am not Charles Edward Lincoln III, do realise this, and drop the claims that I am, kindly.

I didn't claim you were. I asked if you were, you said no, and I asked if you were related - as in his son Charlie, who would be Charles IV... matching your initials. Being disingenuous about any conflict of interest certainly isn't going to help anything. Tan | 39 04:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Charles Lincoln AfD and reply

Hi. Re your comment/question on my talkpage, I know nothing about him personally or biographically, but I'm reasonably familiar with the Mesoamericanist / archaeological literature and have come across his Chichen Itza ideas before. The rest I just had to read up about.

What will happen, is that the deletion discussion will run its course (7 days or thereabouts), after which some closing administrator will come along and assess whether to keep or delete. Right now, experience tells that it is not looking good for a 'keep' result, though one never knows. Experience also shows that when several new user accounts not previously involved with anything on wikipedia spring up and start commenting on deletion debates, those comments are pretty much always disregarded (whatever they say). Whenever there is any potential conflict of interest (COI) or involvement by some party, it's usually for the best for that party to be forthright about it up-front, that way any potential misunderstandings and suspicions can be dealt with. The same goes with the undisclosed operation of multiple user accounts, called sockpuppets here on wikipedia. I can't say for sure whether either has been occurring in this particular AfD discussion, but COI and SOCK actions are usually seen in a negative light.

I have made such arguments for keep as I saw fit, though with the caveat that the text be seriously overhauled if not rewritten altogether. See also my further comments/recommendations there. Regards, --cjllw ʘ TALK 07:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)