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Happy New Year, Bazj!

Happy New Year!

Bazj,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:50, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks Liz, and a Happy New Year to you too. I hope that you're finding admin-ship enjoyable and rewarding and worth the trouble of one of the most bruising RfAs. Happy editing, Bazj (talk) 10:02, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Bazj!

(Charles R. Knight, 1922)

Bazj, I wish you and those dear to you golden days of love and joy in a Happy New Year 2016! Best regards, Sam Sailor Talk! 04:46, 2 January 2016 (UTC) Pass on! Send this greeting by adding {{subst:User:Sam Sailor/Templates/HappyNewYear}} to user talk pages. Automatic level-2 heading and auto-signing included.

(Unknown artist, Norway, 1916)

Thanks Sam Sailor, and a Happy New Year to you too. Happy editing, Bazj (talk) 10:02, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Contested deletion January 1 in India

January 1 in India This article should not be speedy deleted as being recently created, having no relevant page history and duplicating an existing English Wikipedia topic, because... There is no such page in wikipedia. If any one wants to know what happend in India on a particular date, how to get such information. If wikipedia is an encyclopedia then we need such data in it. We can create this type of page because which is very useful to the people. Existing page in particular date contains the events happened in all over the world. That is too long and not updated all events in that page. Hopes that you will allow to continue with this article.

Thank you

--Rohitht@lk 17:32, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

RohithKumarPatali, I disagree totally, but I will agree that there's a point worth discussing. AfD is probably a more suitable way of tackling the question. I'll withdraw the CSDs and raise an AfD later. Regards, Bazj (talk) 10:13, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

DGG has already removed the CSD tags on all 3 articles. I still feel a discussion is worthwhile. The real world won't allow me the time to raise an AfD for a couple of hours. Bazj (talk) 10:18, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

WP:AfD states " For the avoidance of doubt, bundling should not be used to form consensus around policy decisions such as "should wikipedia include this type of article". Bundling AfDs should be used only for clear-cut deletion discussions based on existing policy. If you're unsure, don't bundle it." On the flip side there's no point having the same discussion for each and every day. DGG, if AfD isn't the forum - where? Advice please? Bazj (talk) 12:10, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I think this is a reasonable case for a combined afd. The problem is identical. My guess ,btw, is that this has been discussed previously, and such articles rejected , and the AfD will confirm this. However, I cannot find where. Tavix, you've been very much involved in date articles, do you recall? DGG ( talk ) 01:43, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Etteh Aro and Partners Consulting Engineers

Hi Bazj,

Thanks for patrolling new pages, Wikipedia appreciates your help. However, I respectfully declined your speedy deletion request of the above article with no prejudice against its deletion through WP:AfD if the subject's notability is in doubt. I worked on the article and it appears to pass WP:CSD#A7 with zero copyright violation in its current state. The article creator is a new editor from Nigeria, a country where we currently have few active editors, perhaps 2 or 3 article editors. I discovered that one or more of the editor's articles had been recently nominated for deletion through AfD and I'm not sure those articles will survive at AfD. I feel that speedy deletion of this article may get them cranky and probably force them out of Wikipedia. I will leave a helpful note on their talk page later today. Please accept my sincere apology, if you think I misinformed you in anyway. Thanks for the good work. Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 11:44, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikicology, Thanks for explaining your motivation. We've bumped into each other before - some puff piece for a Nigerian preacher early last year which was also a case about unproven notability as I recall. In this case your new guy seems to be in need of guidance and monitoring regarding notability, copyright, and advertising - his intention may not have been to advertise but, in copying text from their website and using a photo given to him by the company/family, he's certainly created that impression. Given the number of companies/individuals who ARE here to advertise their business and who freeload on the work of volunteers like us who are here to create an encyclopedia it can be easy to see advertising where none was intended - especially given the unfortunate combination of signals (2x copyvio, lack of sources, uncritical text) this guy has shown.

Good luck introducing him to the wiki's culture. Regards, Bazj (talk) 12:44, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

RE: Etteh Aro and Partners Consulting Engineers

Hello Bazj,
I do not have issues with using my own words. However, I also understand that when you copy certain section of someone else's work, citing the source of such work is a must. The earlier words I used on this article were taken from Etteh Aro and Partners website and that was why I referenced the company's website.
Regards.
Daniel U. A. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ugochukwu Daniel Anucha (talk • contribs) 13:48, 6 January 2016‎

Ugochukwu Daniel Anucha, I was trying to make a point about using reliable sources but your reply takes us back to the problems with copyright. "When you copy certain section of someone else's work" you're committing a copyright violation. Wikipedia allows anybody to copy anything from the wiki and use it for any purpose. "When you copy certain section of someone else's work" you're effectively giving away somebody else's work. It's not yours to give, so wikipedia can't accept it. I hope you understand. Bazj (talk) 13:59, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Ugochukwu Daniel Anucha, please read WP:CV. I have to agree with Bazj that you have a blatant WP:COI. I think your account was only created to promote Lawrence Oluwawemimo Arokodare, considering your edit behavior and contributions. Since you have a COI, I strongly suggest that you follow the instruction here. I advise you to stop editing Etteh Aro and Partners Consulting Engineers and Lawrence Oluwawemimo Arokodare henceforth in compliance with Wikipedia's policy on WP:COI. In addition, stop creating articles related to Lawrence Oluwawemimo Arokodare. I'd like to mention that your privilege to edit Wikipedia may be withdrawn if you fail to respect our policy on COI. Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 14:20, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

marked for deletion: File:Hssss.png and File:Hapkido Flying (jumping) Double back kick by Frank Maletsky.jpg

Nobody else owns these two pictures. I own them. The pictures do not violate any copyrights and therefore should not be deleted. − — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuhitkuhit (talk • contribs) 18:20, 13 January 2016

You'll need to sort out the copyright issue at c:Commons:OTRS. Only one of the images was tagged for copyright. Bazj (talk) 18:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Alvin Maletsky is my brother and student. He gave me the picture and full rights to it. In fact when he saw the picture published he was surprised because he forgot all about it already. It has been 41 years. By giving him credit as the photographer, I am simply respecting my older brother. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuhitkuhit (talk • contribs) 19:44, 13 January 2016‎

I can only repeat the advice above, you'll need to sort out the copyright issue at c:Commons:OTRS. Bazj (talk) 20:06, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

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Beat Funktion

Hello Bazj! Thank you for the information about the article. I understand the conflict of interest-aspect with regard to writing this type of article. I am sorry, but I must explain that I am new to Wikipedia and am still learning.

I would like to know how to properly write the article to make it qualify. I have read through the guidelines and I strive to write everything in a neutral tone, avoiding puffery (which I wager is a common COI situation). As I check the page, I see that all that is written there is based on fact, not opinion, and all statements can be backed up by links to charts and reviews. I have tried to the best of my ability to provide sources/links to support all the claims. As the label owner of Beat Funktion's recordings, I feel that I am qualified to write about them from the perspective that I possess all the information - the reviews, the charts, the sales sheets etc. - and know about their history in detail. Who would be more appropriate to write the article? A fan? A critic/reviewers? Promoter? In whichever case, the information would be subjective and biased from that person's point of view, and possibly, incomplete or incorrect. I do not want to offend anyone here at Wikipedia by writing improper articles, but please give me some advice how to best proceed with the article, since it is about time information about Beat Funktion is available on Wikipedia. Any advice appreciated! Regards Folke (Do Music Records, Sweden) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Domusicrecords (talk • contribs) 21:34, 22 January 2016‎

The best advice I can give you about writing an article about Beat Funktion is "DON'T". As closely connected as you are I'll agree that you have more information about them, but is it noteworthy? Most of the source material you've used so far seems to have been from Facebook which comes nowhere near to being a reliable source. If they're truly notable then at some point someone will create an article from an impartial perspective. As for it being "complete" - every article is in some way incomplete. Happy editing (under whatever new username you choose). Bazj (talk) 11:44, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Contesting Deletion of Mobile Labs Article

Hi,

You recently deleted my Mobile Labs article and I would like further information on why it was deleted so I can improve it. I modeled it after a very similar company article, Perfecto mobile, who has had a page up since November of 2015. I followed all of Wikipedia's guidelines for creating a company page --I kept it factual and included multiple third party, verifiable sources from well-known outlets such as 451 Research, CIOReview and SD Times. Please reconsider deleting the page.

Thank you, Arketi (talk) 14:46, 25 January 2016 (UTC)Arketi

I nominated it for deletion. If you go to Mobile Labs you can see which Admin deleted the article and you can ask them to restore a copy to your userspace for you to work on.

I can no longer see the article to give you an accurate reason why I nominated it but, since you pointed to Perfecto mobile and say they're similar, I can tell you why I've now also nominated Perfecto mobile for deletion.

• There are no reliable sources cited.
• The only external links are to Perfecto's own website.
• The text is entirely promotional and how-to.
• The lack of any independent sources indicates to me the subject is not notable.
• The exclusive, and excessive, use of links to the company's own website comes across as promotional.
• The inclusion of a TM symbol in the text.

If I were inclined to go looking I suspect I could find some of the text was copied verbatim from Perfecto's website and also ask for it to be deleted as a copyright violation but the case for deletion is already pretty clear-cut. I hope that helps. Regards, Bazj (talk) 15:30, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for reviewing, but the page i created Biswanath district is still tagged as Speedy Deletion , i have put forward some point for why it should not be deleted, please help me in these matter. Statergist (talk) 11:02, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Statergist, I'll agree that Biswanath district merits its own article. BUT Biswanath district merits its own article, not just a copy of Biswanath Chariali. Even if you had copied it and preserved credit for its authors as outlined at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia there's no point having two identical articles. Bazj (talk) 12:22, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

File:AddisBank1.JPG

This image is owned 100% by me and has also been uploaded on hmbd.org website. I'm still learning wiki, so please if I have made a mistake here talking with you I do apologize. Any other help would be greatly appreciated.Z28scrambler (talk) 14:15, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Z28scrambler, Sorry to have caused you the hassle but, once the image has been submitted elsewhere, there's no way to tell who owns the copyright. Since Wikipedia and WikiCommons licence allows pretty much any reuse of any material it's important to have a clear provenance.

I assume that your other images may also exist on hmdb.org or elsewhere, in which case it's probably best to settle the issue and ensure all your images are bullet-proof at once at c:Commons:OTRS. It gives you a sample of the email you'll need to send, and a template you can use to tag your images to prevent deletion while the OTRS process takes place. Hope that helps, and that I've got the details right, Regards, Bazj (talk) 19:36, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Please remove

Hello. Would you please remove {{autobiography|date=February 2016}} as the page has a neutral point of view. Thanks Chrstphr80

Chrstphr80 Someone has already removed it. Personally I'd have liked to see significant edits by other editors before removing it, but I'm not going to obsess about it. I hope you're not just on wikipedia for self promotion. Bazj (talk) 19:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

More from Composcompos12

Hello, I unwittingly encountered Composcompos12 as an anonymous user at penicillin yesterday and had a little dig through some edits of theirs (which I almost universally reverted). I was so horrified by them that I blocked their entire IP range for four years for general incompetence before I realized that there used to be a username behind these edits. That is, until it was blocked in the ANI discussion you initiated. I've reverted Template:Nursing, Template:Psychology, Template:Public health, and Template:Social sciences to their pre-Composcompos12 states, and am slowly going through the edits by the IP's in the histories of those templates (currently the nursing one) to find articles to clean up. Just letting you know, because you had a lot to do with this user. I'm also pinging RHaworth and Boing! said Zebedee, who have also taken action on this editor. Graham87 09:04, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Lemme ping Boing! said Zebedee properly. Graham87 09:06, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Graham87, I really hoped we'd seen the last of C12. I got the impression C12 is a student nurse who feels a compulsive need to mould the wiki to reflect their course notes, and won't let a lack of competence in English be a barrier. No matter how bad the wiki behaviour you really have to pity any of C12's patients if that level of arrogance and incompetence is carried over into the real world. Bazj (talk) 09:27, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I wasn't aware of the wider picture. I'm all for assuming good faith, but I think it's safe to conclude that this is someone who doesn't play well ;-) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:33, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Contesting Deletion of Kinnect2 Article

Hi, How are you. Sir few days ago you deleted my Kinnect2 article and I would like to know more on why it was deleted so I can make improvement. I wrote the whole article myself, made few changes to it, added third party sources and Wikipedia link to it but i did not remove the error tags. I tried to follow all of Wikipedia's guidelines for creating a company page. I,m pretty sure that i made a mistake, so that is why me article is deleted. Please guide me what should i do and where can i go to make changes to my article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missnabi (talk • contribs) 06:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Missnabi, Kinnect2 is quite obviously your business. You have a conflict of interest. I have no interest in working to advertise your business. Regards, Bazj (talk) 09:15, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Mark Fitzigibbon Deleltion

Hi there. Mark is locally known and has a youtube channel where he uploads his vlogs. I'm trying to inform people of who various people are that is locally known. I do not understand why you want to delete the page as I'm just presenting information other people might need it for research.

Alridge (talk) 14:44, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi Alridge, the reason is that he lacks notability, specifically the criteria required by wikipedia's policies for biographies. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it records people who ARE notable, it's not a place for you to try to make him notable. Notability needs to be demonstrated with verifiable, reliable sources. The bar for biographies of living people is set higher.

Please take the time to read the guidance in the welcome message on your talk page. It'll save you a lot of frustration in the long run. Happy editing, Bazj (talk) 15:04, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

as jy di vistaan jys kak simple... hy is wel bekend ma jy willie he mense moet gehulp wordi.... hoe moet jy voel as jy n taak moes doen oor iemand wat jy ni keni ha? x probeeri mense hulp ma julle wil he alles moet af. Jul is mos baie van jas nairs. Alridge (talk) 15:26, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

If you want to contribute in Afrikaans please head on over to the Afrikaans wiki. If you want to talk to me, do it in English. Bazj (talk) 15:52, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

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User:Jsuomu1 on Johnny Suomu

I am notable. . Don't be a hater. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsuomu1 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Jsuomu1, Prove it. Provide reliable sources to back up your claims within 7 days and the article will be kept.

Deleting the advice you're given from your talkpage doesn't hide anything and only serves to create the impression that you're not here to collaborate on building an encyclopedia.

Please sign your comments on talk pages with 4 tildes, ~~~~ which will produce something like... Bazj (talk) 17:51, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

How can I collaborate and build it if you won't let me start it? You make no sense. 68.5.195.212 (talk) 18:34, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Jsuomu1, What are you on about? You've already started your autobiography! You now have 7 days to provide some evidence of your notability. If no reliable sources are provided then the article will be deleted under the policies governing biographies of living people. The specifics for notability of composers is outlined at WP:COMPOSER.

Please remember to log in when editing. The explanation is best provided by the message I'm about to leave on your talk page - which you are, of course, entitled to ignore and delete like the previous notes on other topics. Bazj (talk) 22:43, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: AN ARTICLE ON ADVERTISING

Hello Bazj, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I deleted AN ARTICLE ON ADVERTISING, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided. The speedy deletion criteria are extremely narrow and specific, and the process is more effective if the correct criterion is used. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 17:24, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

The Wordsmith Reviewed... I'm afraid you're going to have to explain to me why A10 doesn't apply and A7 does.

• A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events)

This criterion applies only to articles about web content and to articles about people, organizations, and individual animals themselves, not to articles about ... other creative works.

• A10. Recently created article that duplicates an existing topic

AN ARTICLE ON ADVERTISING pretty clearly covered the same ground as the existing article on Advertising.

Regards, Bazj (talk) 17:44, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

You are correct, I blame a slip of the fingers. A10 it is. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 19:39, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

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Question about SVGs

Hello. Thanks for your help at WT:User scripts! I have a question when editing SVG files: How do I crop them? Right now, I have a file (File:Colorado College seal.svg) that needs cropped badly. When it comes to editing SVGs, this is the only problem I can't seem to figure out! [haha!] I'd like to learn so I don't have to bother others about it, and so that I can have more experience with editing SVG files. Thanks, 🍀 Corkythehornetfan 🍀 04:10, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Corkythehornetfan, At a guess that would mean editing a whole bunch of x/y coordinates to move the image to the top left of its canvas, and resizing the canvas... nowhere near as easy as a global replace on a colour code. This would be much, much easier with an svg editor like Inkscape. Bazj (talk) 16:09, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

I figured... Thanks! I'll give it a shot! 🍀 Corkythehornetfan 🍀 17:11, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Page Deletion

Hi Bazj - please can you help, you tagged the Education Development Trust wikipage for deletion. We recently changed our name as a company (3 months ago) and no-one has created a page on our behalf, and yet I know people will trurn to wikipedia to understand more about the organisation. What can I do?EdDevTrust (talk) 16:16, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

I tried to be transparent, with my username, but according to the regs I can't be working at the company and update a page. Please could you delete the page? I've submitted a draft now instead as this seems to be a better route. EdDevTrust (talk) 16:18, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

EdDevTrust, Caysmum, Don't panic. Education Development Trust needs to be deleted so that the article at CfBT Education Trust can be moved there with a redirect from the old title. Copying the text from one article to another as you did leaves it looking as though you wrote the whole article and robs previous contributors of the acknowledgement they're due. Once you've been on wikipedia 4 days, and contributed 10 edits, you'll automatically acquire the privileges (WP:AUTOCONFIRMED) to move articles.

Just as you don't yet have the privileges to move a page, I can't delete a page. The request, if you read it thoroughly, requests the deletion of the new article, AND the move of the old article.

[Reply to DRAFT comment, just added] Once the article's been moved you may like to add any new material from your draft to the article, then replace the draft's content with {{db-g7}} to request its deletion. Regards, Bazj (talk) 16:45, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

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List of Company Registers

Hi, Bazj. I definitely appreciate your desire to stop the reverts on List of company registers. Unfortunately, the path you've chosen is filled with a lot of work and has already been discounted as a solution on the External Link Noticeboards. These links were never used as references for the information entered and are not reliable sources. These would still continue to be external links, masquerading as cites. I've started yet another discussion on the article's Talk page and have mentioned these same issues there as well. Realistically, these list entries should only include links to Wikipedia articles about each company register and there would be an external link to the company register at the bottom of that Wikipedia article. Thank you for your efforts to improve Wikipedia. Stesmo (talk) 05:14, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation and your thinking on the issue. You won't be surprised to hear I disagree.

• "the path you've chosen is filled with a lot of work" - and yet I'm willing to undertake it, but not if it's just going to be reverted out-of-hand. I'd also prefer this task than the creation of 150+ stubs for each country's corporate registry.
• "are not reliable sources" - how much more reliable source for a government agency can there be than the government's own website? Just a quick look at Drug Enforcement Administration shows how many sources for government agencies are primary sources.
• "Realistically, these list entries..." - I'd agree with "Ideally, these list entries...". We need to verify articles about companies and this list serves as a valuable resource in that task - a purpose which is not served by stripping out the links.

WP:EL was formulated to prevent promotional activity. Government agencies aren't in it to promote themselves - I'm pretty sure nobody's seen this list and been prompted to go and register a company by it. An over-zealous application of WP:EL is misplaced here.

Rather than continuing this discussion over several talk pages I'll add my thoughts to the discussion at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard#List of company registers and ping the contributors to the article from the last couple of years to alert them to that discussion. Regards, Bazj (talk) 13:34, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

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MIXMAX COI

Hi Bazj, thanks for the message. I have added the MIXMAX random number generator (RNG) to the list of RNGs. That was my initial intension. But then I got a message from Wikipedia telling that there in no article describing MIXMAX, thus I contributed with a short description of MIXMAX and added corresponding references. It is up to the editors to decide how objective it is. I am a grate fun of Wikipedia, it is a Great Invention. I have no intension to do more than what I deed and will not any more intervene with editing. All the best, George Savvidy. George Savvidy 11:23, 10 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Savvidy (talk • contribs)

Peter Kaye am

I toolk the BLP Prod off of Peter Kaye am as the creator added references. However if you think it would be suitable for AfD, I would support that. Drop me a line if you take it there. HappyValleyEditor (talk) 00:30, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

HappyValleyEditor, Thanks for the heads up. I also liked the google suggestion you made on the author's talk page. I saw the edits he'd made to the page after I'd tagged it, but I left the BLPPROD tag since neither of them actually pointed to any material that even mentioned him. They were both just front-page links to websites which ought to mention him somewhere. When it comes to lazy autobiographers I'm damned if I'll be bothered to do their researching & boasting for them - that's not what I volunteered for. As for AfD, if his claims are true, he probably is notable (not only for the size of his ego) and merits an article. I'll leave it to you where you take it from here. Regards, Bazj (talk) 06:49, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar

Hi, thx for your db-copyvio red notice at Oysters LLC which has pointed improper content within less then a hour - appreciated, really :-D As it has been already rephrased to avoid violation, hence could you be so kind to remove db-copyvio red notice from Oysters LLC? Can't do it myself being creator and editor of questioned article and content. Respect for the quickest reaction and the quickest speedy nomination I have received so far! And thx for pointing unnoticed hence omitted problem there. All the best.  :) Ocexyz (talk) 17:58, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Edit conflict

Sorry about the edit conflict. If you're online, you can take the other maintenance template edit requests. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 07:08, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Scratch that. I'll make the updates. All good intentions :) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 07:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Andy M. Wang, No need to be sorry. You were just quicker than me. I'll content myself that my request for Page Mover got in first ;-) Happy editing. for (;;) (talk) 07:34, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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• Category:Articles to be moved, for article renaming requests awaiting action.

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, post here, or just let me know. Thank you, and happy editing! Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:36, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

NPP / AfC

Hi. Just a reminder that in just over a week at Wikimania there's going to be a cross-Wiki discussion about the systems of control of new pages. This is a round-table rather than a presentation or a lecture. On the agenda are reforms to the new article reviewing systems and ways to help new users better understand our content policies. If you are going to Italy and would like to take part, please check out the conference schedule, and I look forward to seeing you there. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:08, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Kudpung, thanks for the heads-up. Unfortunately I won't be there. If there's any online material after I'd love to see it and would welcome the chance to add my 2¢. for (;;) (talk) 18:14, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Sorry

Really sorry. I will be more careful in the future. Thanks East Anglian Regional (talk) 18:46, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Fotemah Mba/Draft:Fotemah Mba

Inquiry why tag was put on my page

Greetings! Please I would like to inquire why the page i created Fotemah Mba was tagged by you as for promotion. Because that is not the case. i did not create the page to promote any person, services or products. and please if you have noticed that there is any content that is promotional why not delete that section or portion of the page instead of nominating the whole page for deletion? thanks for comprehending. waiting for your response Ndinge (talk) 12:01, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Request for removal of tag

So as a follow up from my previous complaint, i humbly plead that the speedy deletion tag be removed from the page i created; Fotemah Mba. I followed the instructions from the previous warnings i received create this one. I did my best to be in line with wikipedia rules and restrictions. I would be very humbled and grateful if this page can be retained as permanent. If there is any content which is promotional please kindly delete that part and leave the rest. This person has been of immense inspiration and motivation to many people here in my coutry Cameroon, and in my continent Africa, and even in the United States. His journey should be documented on an encyclopedia like this one so that many other people can refer to and be inspired. Thank you for understanding. Ndinge (talk) 12:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Ndinge, the language used in the article is so florid, so promotional, and so widespread I see no alternative to deleting the article. To provide some examples:

• He was a little boy with a dream.
• His father; a distinguished educator and diplomat,
• exposing him to the cultures of such places as Algeria, Belgium & the United States
• His love for music was a constant in all these journeys and the diverse cultures only enriched his knowledge of good music.[
• definitely a living witness to the fact that America truly can be a land of greener pastures and opportunities for those who are willing to work hard
• He started with big dreams that seemed impossible to achieve at first, but they became realities in measures beyond his imagination.
• the current consultant (...what is that?)
• Of course with his intriguing journey in the music business, the entertainment industry is close to his heart but what’s even closer is giving back to others.
• to facilitate and improve education in the lives of young adults and children
• Just like every other venture, this one has been filled with obstacles too.
• In a world dominated by social media, Fotemah Mba is an inspiration, he gives us a mirror image of an industry executive who goes beyond the sparkle of the entertainment industry.

Too many of the references are not of the required standard, see WP:RS. This includes your own blog. for (;;) (talk) 13:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Most of the advice you need was given in the welcome message posted on your talk page which you deleted. for (;;) (talk) 13:31, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

recommendations/suggestions

Ok, thanks for your response. I indeed understand what you mean now, with the examples you pointed out. So what do you suggest? should I edit the article and re-structure the language? Or would you edit it to make it suitable instead? Please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ndinge (talk • contribs) 14:37, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

I could move it to Draft where you could work on it and bring it up to standard without hassle. Using the AfC process is a gentler and less demanding route. for (;;) (talk) 14:44, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Edited

Ok, I just edited the article right now. Please review and let me know. Thank you for your kind cooperation, and for seeing me through this step by step. Ndinge (talk) 15:12, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

I've moved it to Draft:Fotemah Mba and done some more work on it. I've removed a load of references which aren't up to the required levels of verifiability. It's likely that more are also not reliable sources. Hope that helps, for (;;) (talk) 16:05, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)@Ndinge: Hallo Ndinge, you'll see that pretty well all Wikipedia articles start with a line like "Fotemah Mba (dates) is a xxxxx", where "xxxxx" is his occupation in which he has become WP:NOTABLE enough for a Wikipedia article. Stop and think that through: why should he be in the encyclopedia? Not for being born, speaking 4 languages, and settling in Georgia. Is he encyclopedia-worthy as a record company executive, a philanthropist, a social activist? You've written a biography of someone but with no indication why it should be in the encyclopedia. Good luck in rewriting it. There's a lot to learn about editing Wikipedia, but it's an interesting journey. Enjoy your editing! PamD 17:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Port Huron Minor Hockey Association

Your speedy nomination for Port Huron Minor Hockey Association was declined. I PROD'd it, you might want to endorse the prod. ubiquity (talk) 16:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Merger discussion for List of sons of King Abdulaziz ibn Saud by seniority

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RMpmc

I've made a little proposal at Template talk:RMpmc#Appearance, and since all this is still so new, I'd like your input.  What's in your palette? Paine  17:18, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

G12

You tagged Common communication format As a G 12. It looks to me that the text is licensed acceptably. Do you think I miss something? There may well be other issues with that article but I don't think that Copyright issues are the problem.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:22, 2 July 2016 (UTC) Same comment re User:Nasirudheen --S Philbrick(Talk) 12:31, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Sphilbrick, I'm not 100% that the source I identified is THE source, there are a couple of copies lying around on the web. If you're going with the licence given at that site, it requires attribution. for (;;) (talk) 13:43, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

I agree - I added a cite needed tag.--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:50, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Sphilbrick, Thanks. for (;;) (talk) 13:52, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

For your remarkably accurate and persistent work with the large number of very much needed deletion nominations. DGG ( talk ) 02:53, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

krantik

please avoid the deletion as the content is real for reference kindly visit www.notionpress.com/read/boonde — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krantik01031991 (talk • contribs) 07:27, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Krantik01031991, It may be real but the article was an advert. Wikipedia is not for advertising - not for yourself, not for your book. for (;;) (talk) 12:51, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

BLPROD on Keven Santos

Per WP:BLPROD, "A common source of confusion in application is the different treatment of presence of sources for placement of the tag, versus removal of the tag. The requirements can be summed up as: Only add a BLPPROD if there are no sources in any form that name the subject, but once (properly) placed, it can only be removed if a reliable source is added. This compromise avoids the need for judgement calls about reliability of sources for placement, and limits that issue to the far fewer instances, at the other end, where a source is actually added during the seven-day period." You had placed the tag when there was a number of references that met this requirement, hence I removed it as improperly placed. --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:01, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

ANI discussion

There is a topic in which you were involved being discussed at WP:ANI. The topic is concern over Adam9007's removal of speedy deletion templates. You are welcome to join the discussion here. Toddst1 (talk) 20:14, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

User:Prakash9912482674

Hey For, I've deleted the userpage you tagged for CSD, but under WP:U5 and not WP:G7. The G7 policy states that it does not apply to userpages. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 15:38, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Airplaneman Thanks. Given that the user had blanked the page I thought U5 was a little WP:BITEy and G7 a little more gracious. I'll try not to be nice again. ;-) for (;;) (talk) 15:52, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

You know, I had not considered that! I can see why you tagged it the way you did. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 15:55, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:Coat of arms

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Marianwolfe86 SPI

Hi. Regarding the Marianwolfe86 SPI, I can guess that you're probably requesting CU attention here in order to get a sleeper check, but it would be better if you could say that (or whatever other reason) explicitly in the SPI. Thanks. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 06:08, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Richwales Thanks for the heads-up. I think my reply on the SPI fits the bill. Regards, for (;;) (talk) 07:40, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. I've endorsed this SPI for a sleeper check. — Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 13:44, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

ThisisDA

There is no opinion text on the article. If you believe this still remains, then edit the article. Discussion can be closed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WanderingYF1313 (talk • contribs) 12:53, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

WanderingYF1313, that's not how the process works. You can express your opinion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ThisisDA where the discussion will run for at least 7 days, until a consensus opinion emerges. for (;;) (talk) 18:11, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Category:Orthopaedic eponyms has been nominated for discussion

Category:Orthopaedic eponyms, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor ^(talk) 05:49, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Old Planteur Rum

Good day, I have seen that you are willing to delete the page about Old Planteur Rum. It is the oldest brand of Rum from Belize still in existence. I am not related whatsoever with this firm but if you feel that the wording I used is too keen to make the promotion of the brand, please feel free to rewrite it in a more compliant way to wikipedia. I think it would be a shame for rum lovers as me to not fin information on this hstoric plantation. (There are plenty of infor for US plantations and rums producers in the Caribbean, but almost nothing for central america....) JohnRandale72 (talk) 08:14, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

JohnRandale72, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and (as you were told in the welcome message on your talk page) requires that the information in its articles is verifiable, independent, and from reliable sources. It also requires that the subjects of its articles are notable. Old Planteur Rum satisfies none of those requirements. An internet search only threw up material provided by the distillery/plantation. Some topics just aren't notable no matter how hard you try to write well of them.

You say "It is the oldest brand of Rum from Belize still in existence." If you can back that up with suitable evidence, rather than just a self-proclaimed assertion in their advertising material, that would go a long way to establishing a claim of notability. But, as I said, I looked and found nothing. Cabayi (talk) 09:10, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Jan E. Tighe

You tagged this as a copyright violation and I deleted it, and then realised that the source was a US Federal Government publication and therefore public-domain. So I have restored it and tidied it up a bit. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:31, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Well caught. I'd missed that twist in copyright. Should it be tagged with {{PD-USGov}}? cheers, Cabayi (talk) 08:05, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

No, that would be good for an image description file, but I don't think it's necessary for text - the source is cited as a ref. JohnCD (talk) 12:13, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)

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La Perla

Dear Cabayi, I apologize for the mistaken page creation. The page was intended as a work-in-progress subpage for La Perla (clothing), however I should have put it in my userspace. Thanks for moving it there for me! :) Giulia H2 (talk) 14:29, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about the deletion request, I saw the duplicate article before I saw the message on the main article's talk page. A pointer to that message on WT:WikiProject Fashion might draw the help you want. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 14:33, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

No problem at all, I will ask at WikiProject Fashion. Thanks again for the help :) Giulia H2 (talk) 14:42, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Bank Clearing Number

If you want to restore your speedy on that go right ahead. I almost did the same before I redirected it instead. I wish new editors would realize that they could move articles rather than recreating them under a different name.Meters (talk) 06:03, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Meters, Done, thanks. I think many editors search, find nothing, and are presented with create this article... and who takes the time to properly capitalise a search? They have no idea they were committing themselves to the article's title. It's evident in the many articles which have a lowercase title but a properly capitalised usage within the article. Cabayi (talk) 08:14, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	YOU ARE THE REAL VOLUNTER OF WIKIPEDIA. Shivammahaseth5 (talk) 03:18, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A CUP OF TEA WITH ME? Shivammahaseth5 (talk) 03:19, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs

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Speedy deletion nomination of Navdeep Kumar

I found that you issued a speedy deletion nomination at the talk page of Nav.uicet for his creation of an own biography.But when I checked the edits I could find no nomination from you for the page under AfD criterion!Thus ,I proceeded with the same and eventually reissued the notice! Could you please clarify about what happened on you end?Please ping me while replying!!Aru@baska^{❯❯❯ Vanguard} 15:33, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

ARUNEEK, you're confusing WP:CSD with WP:AFD. They're two separate processes. It doesn't help that Nav has such an ego he recreated his autobiography as fast as he could. The timeline runs:

• 13:41 I nominated the article for deletion
• 13:46 It was deleted
• 13:57 Nav recreated it
• 14:00 you nominated the article for deletion
• 15:59 It was deleted again

Hope that makes it clear, Cabayi (talk) 15:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Heartiest of thanks for enlightening me on the difference between WP:CSD and WP:AFD.I could not even think that the process of deletion and recreation of the concerned article was so lightning fast!Cheers!Aru@baska^{❯❯❯ Vanguard} 16:08, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of QMetry Automation Framework

Will you please help me in update the page content so that it not fall in to Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion? Hi I modified the page as per my understanding. Cjayswal (talk) 11:33, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Removing your name from the article to conceal your connection, and the fact that you're advertising your software, doesn't fix the problems. I don't volunteer my time to wikipedia to help provide a free advertising platform. Cabayi (talk) 12:24, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't understand why you considered as advertisement, it is an open source software for community to concentrate on their application specific need rather than spending time in creating underlying framework. I would like to request you one more time not to consider it as advertisement, there is no personal intention on creating this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjayswal (talk • contribs) 19:07, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Read WP:PROMO. Cabayi (talk) 08:26, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

RfC for page patroller qualifications

Following up from the consensus reached here, the community will now establish the user right criteria. You may wish to participate in this discussion. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:43, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for message and contribution

I found that you issued a message regarding association, there is no way connection with the user you mentioned. But I am with the same area of Khandesh, were he lives. Thanks - Netenhancer User:Netenhancer 18:44, 8 October 2016 (IST)

There are wiki-love messages flowing both ways between you dating back nearly 2 years, and now you're re-creating his often-deleted article. It doesn't look like "no way connection". Cabayi (talk) 13:22, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

I have added monitor on pages of my area, so I got intimation of the additions / deletions. I have already cleared you that he is from my area and he is adding the details with my area pages. So I appreciated his work, like I appriciating yours.

This page got deleted twice with whom they are no way or long long information about the notability of this company. Hope you understand the situation as we are adding our time and resources to enhance the pages and others are simply destroying them without enhancing it saying promotional conent. Need your help and guidance for contributing and adding such useful information people searching for. Thanks - Netenhancer User:Netenhancer 18:44, 8 October 2016 (IST)

Netenhancer, I understand it's been deleted a few times and you re-created it despite the deletion discussion, despite it having been deleted just 93 minutes previously, despite having nothing new to make the case for keeping the article. Yes, I understand. Cabayi (talk) 17:50, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Maurizio Prato (scientist), COI and third-party sources

Cabayi, I wanted to address the issues with the page I created. I would appreciate if you could proofread it to make sure there is no biased information in the article. I would also like to give you a few sources about Maurizio Prato and not by him, so that you can assess if the information provided in the article are correct or not.

In English:

• Paper on peer-reviewed journal Science Advances

Again, BY him, not ABOUT him

• List of famous Italian chemists based on H-Index

looks good

• Google Scholar author page
• Interview on the Royal Society of Chemistry

Great! Even though it's restricted access, it's great verification for those who can get to it, and carries the authority of the Royal Society of Chemistry.

• Article about Maurizio Prato joining Biomagune, San Sebastian, Spain

Yes. This is the sort of reference that we need. It would be better if they published more frequently, and more mainstream, but it does the job.

• European Chemical Sciences Award (2013)

great

In Italian:

• Article about nanotubes on Repubblica.it
• Article about hydrolysis on Repubblica.it
• Article about nanotubes on Repubblica.it

Even someone like me who doesn't speak Italian knows La Repubblica is mainstream press. These 3 are gold-dust for showing notability.

• Definition on the Treccani dictionary that mentions Maurizio Prato
• Article by the Normale University of Pisa
• Article about Maurizio Prato joining the Accademia dei Lincei (2010)
• Article about EuCheMS Chemistry Congress in Istanbul, Turkey (2014)

Thanks a lot for your feedback. I will wait for your reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloprato (talk • contribs) 22:03, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

I've interleaved my comments into your list in green to save duplication. Cabayi (talk) 07:29, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I will provide you with more articles now that I have a better idea about what kind of proof of notability you mean.

In the meantime I also linked some articles to the page to remove the orphan warning:

• Prato reaction - Named after Maurizio Prato
• European Association for Chemical and Molecular Sciences - In the list of awarded scientists
• European Academy of Sciences - In the list of awarded scientists

I would also like to know what is the best way to introduce the articles I showed you in the main Maurizio Prato article.

Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloprato (talk • contribs) 08:58, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Carloprato, I've linked some of the articles you pointed to. The easiest way to add references is using ProveIt which will prompt you for the references details and insert the completed ref into the article. It can also be used to beef-up the references you already have (They could do with doi numbers so that the references can be easily validated online). Add ProveIt in your preferences:

Preferences → Gadgets → Editing → ProveIt is a tool that adds a graphical user interface to find, edit, add and cite references

Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 15:25, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Review of an article

Sir, can you please take a kind look at whether this article warrants enough notability and enough verifiable citations to be in WIKIPEDIA. The details as ascertained by me are as follows----

• Reference 1 discusses the exclusion of Ganguly, but nowhere mentions anything about the group.(Is relevant to the background section).
• Reference 2 is offline.The short title does not suggest any link with the group.
• Reference 3 contains material about the group but in all probability fails WP:RS.
• Reference 4 is stale and non-rcoverable.
• Reference 5 contains material about the group but in all probability fails WP:RS esp. when it asks citizen journalists to write it's own news!
• Reference 6 is gathered from a Facebook source. Fails WP:RS.
• Reference 7 discusses the exclusion of Ganguly, but nowhere mentions anything about the group.
• Reference 8 discusses the hindrance caused by other teams to the intention of late-inclusion exclusion of Ganguly by a particular IPL squad, but nowhere mentions anything about the group.It is cited in the signature campaign section, to the effect that it was their signature campaign that lead to the meeting but the report nowhere mentions it!
• Reference 9 contains strong material about the group but in all probability fails WP:RS as could be perceived from the amateur reporting. Also like Ref. 5 it has a feature allowing common public to submit reports of incidents which is probably the case here!
• Reference 10 is seemingly the most reliable reference and passes WP:RS.But, again the article does not even hints about the slightest mention of the group!
• Reference 11 is also similarly reliable and passes WP:RS.And is probably the lone article across the web discussing about the group.
• Reference 12 is stale.
• Reference 13 comes not only from the same website in Ref-9 but also from the same reporter in the same tone, containing strong material about the group but fails WP:RS.

Basically, the entire article is about a fan-club,evidenced in a single verifiable source. Further the article uses sources which are dubious regarding the activities of the group but uses perfectly reliable sources for justification of general incidents.

Thus, I would like you to kindly consider about the article in view of the above points and anything else available at your end, that you may find suitable.

Please ping me while informing about your observations/comments/decision in this regard. Aru@baska^{❯❯❯ Vanguard} 19:43, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

ARUNEEK, that looks like a reasoned case to take to an AfD. It looks like too much information to handle as a CSD. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 14:51, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm no sock

have you seen the way the "Master" account writes? English is not their prinicipal language. I'm just a guy who turned on special:new pages, saw the Wang Sicung page being deleted, did some background research, saved the page from deletion and added fifteen references to it. All because I believe in a quality encyclopedia. This guy is very notable. In nay case, knock yourself out on the SPI with my blessing, but don't get your hopes up. if you compare my edits to his/hers, it's night and day! Have a nice day.104.163.141.133 (talk) 10:31, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

honest to God, look at the Zheng guy's account and mine. I have no idea where you see any resemblance, other than the fact that we have worked on the same page. Can he quote Dylan Thomas by Heart? I doubt it, "about the lilting house and happy as the grass was green?". The Zheng98765 guy is just some dude who is trying to make some english wiki pages, but he does not seem to understand the rules, and/or policies. 104.163.141.133 (talk) 10:55, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

I dont have Sockpuppet account

I have nothing about this Ip address:104.163.141.133 it isfrom canada ,which my account is in china.okay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhanglei123456 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi I am Anarul From India

I have something to tell you..Can I contact you on facebook ? Please , I am in need you very badly.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anarul Islam(Rony) (talk • contribs) 16:24, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Anarul Islam(Rony), No. There's not much point contributing under a pseudonym if I'm going to give out my real-life identity. You can use the "Email this user" link on the left if you absolutely must communicate with me off-wiki. Unfortunately, replying to you by email would give away my email address, so I'd reply on-wiki. Cabayi (talk) 18:30, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Re: Aniket Jadhav

The proposed deletion process is for uncontroversial deletions only, and may only be placed once. Any article that has previously been proposed or nominated for deletion, regardless of outcome, may not be proposed for deletion again. Since Aniket Jadhav was previously deleted by AfD, the article is ineligible for PROD. I hope that clears thing up. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:33, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Sir Sputnik, thanks. The article was at another title when I PRODed it so I didn't have the prior AfD in mind when I came to see your removal of it. Thanks for taking the time to clarify, Cabayi (talk) 18:34, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Elizabeth Koshy (actress)

Okay you put a speedy on Elizabeth Koshy (actress), looks like another person made the same article as Liza Koshy. Looks like a SPI probably. Wgolf (talk) 02:56, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Wgolf, Special:WhatLinksHere/Liza Koshy and, to a lesser extent, Special:WhatLinksHere/Elizabeth Koshy (actress) point to the speedy notifications on several users' pages. Looks like you've got a plausible case for an SPI there.

The comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/This is SportsCenter seem to show an editor who's sufficiently annoyed to try a bit of puppetry. Cabayi (talk) 08:10, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Leeladhwaj Thapa

It's a matter of coincidence that I share same family name with him but he is completely unrelated to me. His novel is the 1st novel to receive Madan Prize. So, I thought he deserves a place here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thapa Kazi999 (talk • contribs) 08:34, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Thapa Kazi999, Given the number of other "Thapa" articles you've edited it seems more a matter of choice rather than coincidence. I'm not going to be the only editor to notice the connection and look more closely at your edits because of it. I don't see anything wrong, indeed Leeladhwaj Thapa seems the kind of person the english wiki often overlooks, but you are going to draw closer scrutiny. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 10:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Thank you! Yes I am very new to content editing. I plan to stay quite a while. Willhire (talk) 21:45, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Nothing Was the Same

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New Page Reviewer granted

Hello Cabayi. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group, allowing you to review new pages and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or in some cases, tag them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is a vital function for policing the quality of the encylopedia, if you have not already done so, you must read the new tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the various deletion criteria.

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Special:UnusedCategories

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Peerless Network, Inc.

Hi Cabayi:

I'm responding to your note on my talk page, and am assuming that you nominated my article for speedy deletion - although I admit, it was my first and I'm not certain how all of this works just yet. Can you help me out by answering a few questions please:

1. I did "contest" the speedy deletion - but am unsure what the process is there. Can you enlighten me? Is this up to you to determine, or do other editors make this decision?

2. Although I honestly don't agree with the reasons that this was nominated for speedy deletion (I truly did read all the guidelines before, and even modeled my article after several similar articles just to be sure), can I go back and re-edit the articles while it is waiting in "speedy deletion" status?

3. I admit, given that I did absolutely copy the pattern and format for at least 3 other articles, I'm confused as to why my article was nominated for deletion? Why allow similar articles about other companies and patents, and not this one? Can you offer any perspective here? Can I submit those examples for comparison?

I do appreciate any insight you can offer. Thanks very much. JLK0221Jlk0221 (talk) 21:14, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi Jlk0221, tackling your questions in order:

1. I'm just a regular editor. I thought the article as I saw it didn't establish the notability of the company and the choice of source material veered toward the promotional. The WP:CSD process allows anybody (except you, the author) to remove the nomination if they disagree, and an administrator to delete the article if they agree with the nomination. Ariconte disagreed and removed the CSD. I don't feel so strongly that I would contest his action.
2. Any attempt to improve the article while it's tagged is positively encouraged - after all, our objective is a fully rounded encyclopedia. Improving the encyclopedia by improving the article is preferable to improvement by deletion.
3. Comparison to other articles can be a two-edged sword. It may just result in the other articles being nominated for deletion as well. The argument is unflatteringly known as WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS and I think the effectiveness of the argument is pretty accurately reflected in its title.

Personally I don't feel that 2 datacentres and 7 patents establish notability. The sources don't strike me as neutral or independent reliable sources - they seem to be press releases published in trade press and listings-type mentions (Bloomberg Businessweek lists everybody, it doesn't make any distinction of notability).

The section Company History looks like it was copied from a corporate hand-out. The list of dates isn't the style wikipedia aims for and many of the "events" listed are trivial and only of any interest if you're trying to promote the business.

That's my 2¢. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 12:53, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Well said. I think it has reference problems as you suggest. It will take some work to find independent sources (if they exist) to demonstrate notability. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 19:49, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing Nabi Jaloliddin, Cabayi.

Unfortunately Kudpung has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

I have declined the CSD, not because it was wrong or a wrong criterion, but because no criteria were given. You may have been right about it needing to be deleted - could you go back and take another loo?

To reply, leave a comment on Kudpung's talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kudpung (talk • contribs) 12:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Kudpung, I don't get what you're on about. I nominated the page for deletion A7/G11. The note of deletion at Nabi Jaloliddin, the record in my CSD log and the notice on the author's talk page ALL show A7/G11. Given that the article's been deleted I'm in no position to say what happened there, but I don't believe Twinkle is prone to marking all the other aspects A7/G11 and leaving the article itself with an unadorned {{db-reason}}. The lack of signature on your unreview notice gives the impression something's gone wrong with your unreviewing process.

Also, "To reply"... No. You started the discussion here. I'm not splitting the discussion across the wiki. Cabayi (talk) 13:54, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Almost forgot... I also created {{Contrib-uz1‎}} and {{Contrib-tg1‎}} for this author's autobiographies (this article and his U5 userpage). I don't think anything was overlooked on this case. Cabayi (talk) 13:59, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Hey, hey, hey - just try to AGF for a second, OK? We're all in this together, so it's not my process. and I didn't write the template messages. It's not best to be using Twinkle anyway and there are always going to be clashes between Twinkle and the million dollar software the WMF made for us W A Y back in 2011 to patrol pages properly. Let me look into it - I have the time and energy if others haven't, and I have the back door key to the WMF engineering department canteen. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:10, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Kudpung, Well pardon me for being complete in describing the discrepancies. There was no lack of AGF, just WTF. None of the assertions in the massage correspond with the facts.

I tried the new toy and don't like it. It makes NPP too like whac-a-mole. And by the appearance of this message, it's not reliable either. Cabayi (talk) 14:17, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

'WTF' is the language I expect from you people, especially as Twinkle is 'the whack-a-mole barnyard. Right, here's the log which you are not normally allowed to see:

(diff) 19:40, October 13, 2016 . . PamD (talk | contribs | block) (1,279 bytes) (restoring the CSD tag which the creating editor spoiled by removing the criteria so that a later editor removed it as having no criteria!)
(diff) 19:30, October 13, 2016 . . Melcous (talk | contribs | block) (1,256 bytes) (copyedit and cleanup)
(diff) 19:29, October 13, 2016 . . Melcous (talk | contribs | block) (1,625 bytes) (Added {{BLP sources}}, {{autobiography}}, {{no footnotes}}, {{notability}} and {{third-party}} tags (within {{multiple issues}}), and {{uncategorized}} tag to article (TW))
(diff) 19:14, October 13, 2016 . . Kudpung (talk | contribs | block) (1,384 bytes) (decline CSD - no criteria given)
(diff) 19:09, October 13, 2016 . . Nabi Jaloliddin (talk | contribs | block) (1,399 bytes) (→‎Nabi Jaloliddin) (Tags: reference list removal, Visual edit)

When I arrived there was a large bold red alert across the CSD tag sayig 'No valid CSD criteria;'. Back to work everyone - drama over. (Thank you PamD)Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC).

Kudpung, you people ????? Cabayi (talk) 14:31, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Bumping thread. Cabayi (talk) 11:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Kudpung, I hope that now the drama is past we can look at this again and clear up (what looks like, from my viewpoint) the mutual misunderstandings on this issue.

Firstly, my sincere condolences on the loss of your father.

The issues here arose from your initial message which struck me as out-of-sorts because of four points:

1. my CSD was characterised as having no reason when I KNEW it had been done correctly, and a cursory check of my CSD log and the author's talk page confirmed my memory;
2. the message was unsigned;
3. the message invited a continuation of the discussion at your talk page; and
4. there was no edit summary to indicate the message came from Page Curation, or indeed to indicate anything about the action.

The first peculiarity I could pass over as an WP:AGF mistake. Combined with the other three points, which run contrary to the standard etiquette of wiki-discussions, my curiosity was piqued - which I could, and should, have expressed better than WTF. You have my apologies for that.

As you suggested, the message could have come from a template. However, when I look at the source, there's neither a transcluded template nor the template name in an HTML comment that usually comes with a subst'ed template.

When I referred to "your unreviewing process" I didn't have Page Curation in mind. I often use AutoHotkey to paste in recurrent chunks of text like "English please <tab> {{subst:contrib-1}} ~~~~". I thought perhaps you were using some similar tool which had failed you somehow.

It didn't occur to me that Page Curation could still be so out-of-step with the norms of behaviour on enwiki 4 years after its introduction. Perhaps if it were to use templates rather than boilerplate text which requires the back door key to the WMF engineering department canteen it would have been corrected before now. I hope you can use your access & influence to bring the Page Curation process into line with en-wiki's norms.

Even the edit-filters, which are necessarily opaque, offer a better clues about their actions than Page Curation's unreview message.

I'm still bemused by what was meant by you people but hope I've clarified where I was coming from. Cabayi (talk) 16:10, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Page Curation is not out of step. Many of the people who patrol pages are though. That's why we've just introduced a user right for it. Add to that the fact that some Wikipedians (me, for example) sre not computer freaks - we just use what we are given for the purpose of populating the content of an encyclopedia and keeping the trash out of it. Sorry about my 'you people' but I never use expletives and in most collaborative situations I find it not necessary - call me old-fashioned perhaps, but I have a knack of getting things done around here. Your comments concerning the function of these software tools are more than welcome - I've even created an entire, fairly lively project for it at WP:NPPAFC. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:36, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

New Page Review needs your help

Hi Cabayi,

As an AfC reviewer you're probably aware that a new user right has been created for patrolling new pages (you might even have been granted the right already, and admins have it automatically).

Since July there has been a very serious backlog at Special:NewPagesFeed of over 14,000 pages, by far the worst since 2011, and we need an all out drive to get this back down to just a few hundred that can be easily maintained in the future. Unlike AfC, these pages are already in mainspace, and the thought of what might be there is quite scary. There are also many good faith article creators who need a simple, gentle push to the Tea House or their pages converted to Draft rather than being deleted.

Although New Page Reviewing can occasionally be somewhat more challenging than AfC, the criteria for obtaining the right are roughly the same. The Page Curation tool is even easier to use than the Helper Script, so it's likely that most AfC reviewers already have more than enough knowledge for the task of New Page Review.

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Hi Cabayi. You are invited to comment at a further discussion on the implementation of this user right to patrol and review new pages that is taking place at Wikipedia:New pages patrol/RfC on patrolling without user right. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:04, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

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If each reviewer does only 10 reviews a day over five days, the backlog will be down to zero and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
Let's get that over and done with in time to relax for the holidays.

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Not only are New Page Reviewers the guardians of quality of new articles, they are also in a position to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged for deletion and maintenance and that new authors are not being bitten. This is an important feature of your work. Read about it at the new Monitoring the system section in the tutorial.

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CSD G5

Hi Cabayi,, I see that you put CSD on Tan Wee Gieen and Huang Po-jui pages. But based on WP:G5, CSD should be applied to pages created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block, and that have NO substantial edits by others. So, as per WP:G5, I removed the CSD on that pages. Thanks Stvbastian (talk) 12:38, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Stvbastian thanks for letting me know. Where you place the emphasis on 'NO' I'd place the emphasis on substantial ("and that have no SUBSTANTIAL edits by others"). My assessment of substantial in this case is modified by the repeated (& substantial) nature of Muhd FUad's sockpuppetry. I feel that he needs to be deprived of any benefit to his disruptive campaign of sockpuppetry. I'm not going to argue if you feel you've made a sufficiently substantial contribution to over-ride that need. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 13:00, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I'm just trying to prevent the removal of the article which I took part. Thanks for your understanding. Stvbastian (talk) 13:18, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Maurice Berkeley, 3rd Baron Berkeley

Hello Cabayi. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Maurice Berkeley, 3rd Baron Berkeley, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: extensive quote has been removed. G12 only applies where "there is no free-content material on the page worth saving". Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 10:19, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

JohnCD, fair enough, so long as the infringing revisions are revdel'd. Cabayi (talk) 10:36, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected

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Speedy deletion declined: Alex Noakes (Squash Player)

Hello Cabayi, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Alex Noakes (Squash Player), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: World Ranking of 188 is an assertion of importance. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. ϢereSpielChequers 13:53, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

WereSpielChequers, 188? Really? Cabayi (talk) 13:56, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

If you doubt that so many squash players pass our notability standards at any one time then AFD is the route to go. There seems no doubt that in several sports you don't need to get into the top 200 worldwide in order to be notable. In Football you only need play once in the English Premier League, so there are more than 188 notable Premier League footballers at any one time. I've no interest in this sport and no opinion as to how high in the rankings you need go to get a Wikipedia article. But A7 is an intentionally lower threshold than notability, 188th worldwide in a sport I've heard of is a credible assertion of importance. If you doubt that he actually has a world ranking that high then there's a tag for that as well. ϢereSpielChequers 14:10, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

WereSpielChequers - it's a little disingenuous to compare a sport that draws a following in the order of tens of thousands on a weekly basis to one which may draw a couple of thousand occasionally. I still don't think 188 is anywhere near an assertion of significance/importance. A more accurate comparison, if you want to compare to a team sport, would be the 188th ranked team, which would be somewhere near Step 3 of National League System#The system.

I've tagged it for WP:Squash which doesn't have a guide to what they consider notable. I'm not so interested in squash that I want to push them toward deriving one. Cabayi (talk) 14:29, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm aware that one sport is more than an order of magnitude more popular than the other, that was why I compared a worldwide ranking with the English Premier League ranking. As for 188 football teams in the UK, Wokingham & Emmbrook F.C. can't be far from 188th in England. Thanks for tagging it. ϢereSpielChequers 15:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

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Deletion

Dear Calayi

Thank you for your advice on my attempt to create an auto-biography. I have written to Gerda and asked if she would be kind enough to add her German article about me, in English, on the English Wiki. If she does, will it be possible for me to make minor amendments and/or additions?

Thank you Malcolm Dedman — Preceding unsigned comment added by MalcolmDedman (talk • contribs) 07:01, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

MalcolmDedman, You asked for help to correct errors on the German article, NOT to help recreate your autobiography. I don't appreciate you asking for help to fix the German article and using the information to persist with your deleted autobiography. The discussion about your article should have taken 7 days - it should give you a strong hint that two admins stepped in and brought it to a close in just over 4 hours.

Your final question about autobiographies shows you've not bothered to read the guidelines linked in the advice on your talk page. You're not here for the good of the wiki, solely for your autobiography. I have no interest in helping you with that.

Gerda Arendt, I can only apologise profusely that my good faith suggestion of approaching you to fix errors in the German biography has been perverted into Malcolm trying to use you as a cat's paw to recreate his autobiography on enwiki.

Malcolm, you'd come across a lot self-centred if you had bothered to spell my username correctly. Copy & paste from the top of the page isn't that tricky. Cabayi (talk) 09:15, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

I am surprised because I received no request (or forgot), don't worry, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Dear Cabayi, Firstly, I apologise to you for mispelling your username. I am slightly dyslexic so spelling can sometimes be a problem. Secondly I apologise for offending you in this way, but you did suggest I contacted Gerda, so I was (I thought) simply following your advice. I have no intention of being self-centered and do not view my actions in this way. I will obviously not try writing an autobiography on the English Wiki as I have no intention of going against you advice. Thank you, Malcolm — Preceding unsigned comment added by MalcolmDedman (talk • contribs) 09:34, 11 December 2016 (UTC)