Parazeloo

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Cabbie333. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Lee Mroszak ‎, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
• disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
• avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
• do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Since you claim to be Lee Mroszak ‎ you will need to contact WP:OTRS at info-en@wikimedia.org and confirm your identity. Many editors claim to be article subjects (or their spouse/child/agent/best friend/whatever) in an attempt to influence the content. Without confirmation of identity we have no way of telling the editors who really are related to the article subject from the liars. Meters (talk) 04:06, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm just trying to get the correct information on there. How can I get help? My name is Siegfried legally. Please help Cabbie333 (talk) 05:31, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

April 2020

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Lee Mroszak. Thank you. Meters (talk) 00:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

The material you added was all unsourced, and most of the cats don't exist.

You have not verified your identity yet, so we still don't know that you are who you claim to be. Did you read my previous post? I have already provided you with link to read and the email address to use to deal with this. If you continue to edit without dealing with this you may end up blocked to prevent a possible impersonation by someone pretending to be the subject of the article. Do not edit the article. Once you have proved your identity you may propose changes on the article's talk page, but don't do that either until you have proved your identity. If there's incorrect unsourced information in the article point it out and we'll remove it. Meters (talk) 00:14, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok. I'm not sure what 'cats' means. And I don't understand what I added that was unsourced? I did try to read the link you gave me but like I said before I'm new to this matter and it's a little bit confusing for me.

I hope you understand what I mean. I will do whatever I need to do to verify my identity. I did not create this page but it is me and I exist as a person who would like to make sure that the correct information is out there. I've got my CUNY transcript and I will send it. I have my driver's license. I will send it to wherever I need to. I'm currently quarantined in a VA facility in NJ. So I have time to do it. But I'm kinda not super Wikipedia savvy. Make sense?

Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. Cabbie333 (talk) 22:17, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

"cats" are categories... the things you added with the summary "Added to categories". Most of the cats you added simply do not exist (which is why they showed up as red links), and there is no source showing that the one real cat you added actually applies. As for what you added that was unsourced, see WP:RS and WP:V. We need to have reliable sources in the article that can be verified by readers. For the third time, contact OTRS at en@wikimedia.org to prove your identity. Meters (talk) 22:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

I emailed them last night and they responded. I sent them my ID and they said they needed the exact url address to the page and my user name. I provided the link and all the info requested.. I am waiting for a reply from them. Thank you for your help in this matter. I will not edit any of the page until I can get properly identified.. Will they confirm me to you guys or me? What is the next steps for the process? Again thanks for all the help I really appreciate it. I just want to make sure that my page is clear, correct, portrays my life's works honestly and fair. I hope you can understand that. Sorry for any inconvenience or confusion I may have caused you. It was never my intention. I hope I did everything right. I can copy and paste the email from them here if that helps. Thanks Lee Siegfried Cabbie333 (talk) 09:46, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

OTRS will post an official OTRS template showing that your identity has been confirmed, on this page I believe. Meters (talk) 21:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. What is OTRS? Once I get verified will there be further steps to take in order to edit? Hope you and your family are safe and healthy in the crazy time of the #Pandemic 🇺🇸 Cabbie333 (talk) 13:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

It stands for "Open-source Ticket Request System", which is the software used by the volunteers who respond to emails sent to Wikipedia. I gave you the link WP:OTRS in the first message I left you, and I pointed you to it again in my second set of messages. If you had read the link you would have known what OTRS was. You said that you had already contacted them. And once your identity is confirmed, you should still not edit the article directly (unless there is obvious misinformation). This was covered in the first message I left you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);

When editors provide information to you to help you, you should actually look at it. Meters (talk) 20:03, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Meters, for what it's worth, he is who he claims to be. I've put the verification template on their userpage. Primefac (talk) 23:48, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, and just to clarify, Cabbie333 the COI editing restrictions only apply to articles in which you have a conflict interest (such as the article about yourself). You are free to edit normally on other articles. Meters (talk) 05:07, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Personal information

Just as a note (and yes, I did see your message at my talk page), you should avoid putting personal information such as your email address and phone number on Wikipedia. While 99.9% of folks who use and edit Wikipedia are upstanding individuals, the last thing you want is a troll getting your email or phone number. Primefac (talk) 17:36, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't believe I have ever put my phone number on their. My email address is common knowledge as it is on my LinkedIn page. I'd like to put links to my social media sites. I'm confused about why such things are so difficult.

I'm not trying to be a problem, but I simply want the correct information to be on the page. What is the best way to get the proper information other than from the actual person? Please help me understand. Thank you. Cabbie333 (talk) 20:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

You need to understand that this is not your article, it is Wikipedia's article about you. Wikipedia is not social media, and it is not here to promote you or provide a means for people to contact you. We can link to your official page, and you can put whatever personal information you wish there. Meters (talk) 21:55, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok So how about my legal name? I keep getting stopped from correcting this even though in numerous places in the Wikipedia article it's already there and I've been verified by Wikipedia as Lee Siegfried. The logic is lacking for this. It is an example of what I'm trying to say to you. I'm not trying to pick a fight. Simply pointing out a fact. Cabbie333 (talk) 02:50, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Your legal name is fine. But it's extremely ill-advised to post your email address, phone number, or other contact information anywhere on Wikipedia. If other editors want to reach you they will leave a message here. You can configure your preferences so that you get an email whenever this page is changed. – bradv🍁 02:54, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Cabbie333, why are you asking about changing your your legal name in the article? You might want to actually look at the article. You changed your legal name in the article 3 days ago, after you confirmed your identity to OTRS, and no-one has touched it since. Meters (talk) 03:14, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

The top of the article. The name of the article. Sorry I'm not versed in the Wikipedia speak. Lee Mroszak keeps showing up on the places that I attempt to edit. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong. I still see that the article is named Lee Mroszak. Cabbie333 (talk) 23:26, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

That's the name of the article. I believe it was originally created under "Crazy Cabbie" but was almost immediately moved to "Lee Mroszak". There is still a redirect from Crazy Cabbie. The article can be moved to Lee Siegried if appropriate, or another redirect can be recreated. What your real name is is not the deciding factor in what the article should be called. See WP:COMMONNAME If you were going by Lee Mroszak and that is what the references use the article is unlikely to be moved. This will need to be discussed on the article's talk page. Meters (talk) 00:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

April 2020

Please stop your disruptive editing.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
• If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Lee Mroszak, you may be blocked from editing. Stop editing the article. Propose your changes on the article's talk page so that other editors can determine if the changes are appropriate. Meters (talk) 19:31, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

You have been told how to handle this several times. Continuing to edit the article is disruptive. Meters (talk) 19:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

How many times do I have to try to get the proper information on the article. I emailed various people I have all sources.

Government documents that provide /prove everything that I have edited. No one else can provide this.

My identity is verified by Wikipedia.

What is your problem with this?

Where can I upload the actual pdf files / government documents. Attachments. Etc.

You keep calling me disruptive.

I'm editing the article to provide factually correct information. The information contained in the article is is mostly from social media or podcasts / third party account.

I've said over and over again. I'm NOT TRYING TO PROMOTE MYSELF OR ANYONE ELSE OR ANYTHING. NO PRODUCTS OR COMPANY.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE THE ARTICLE FACTUALLY CORRECT.

I don't understand the Wikipedia speak and it's very difficult for me to even read these messages from you.

I'm a Disabled Combat Veteran who is paralyzed by a rare neurological disorder and Quarantined in a VA facility in NJ. Covid19 has hit us hard. Veterans are dying daily alone here.

I'm just trying to fix this article.

I might die.

This might be the last record of my life.

If you could please help me. Instead of constantly telling me that I am doing something harmful to an article about MY LIFE. MY EXISTENCE. I'd greatly appreciate it.

I'll send the documents wherever I can to get them to the right place.

Lee Siegfried Cabbie333 (talk) 19:50, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you are having trouble understanding this, What part of

• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);

are you having difficulty with? Place the {{request edit}} template on talk:Lee Mroszak with your proposed changes and sources. Other editors will determine if the changes are appropriate as it, if they need to be modified, or if they should not be made at all. Do not make the changes yourself. I understand that this is frustrating, but this is not your article. It is Wikipedia's article about you, The content needs to be correct, but the article is not necessarily going to contain everything you want it to to contain, just as it may also contain material that you would prefer not be included.

And as user: Primefac and user: bradv have already pointed out, it is a bad idea to post your contact information on Wikipedia. I suggest that you remove it. Anyone who needs to contact you can post on this talk page, or use your Wikipedia email contact if you have enabled it. Meters (talk) 20:16, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

So you are saying that when I post my phone number and email address here it is available to anyone? Is that what the others were talking about? I'm not really concerned about that as if someone wanted to find it its out there. But I understand your point. I thought they were saying that I put it in the article. Which I never did.

I looked multiple times at the link for request to change the article and looks like Chinese language to me. I don't really understand how to do those things on my phone. I'm smart enough to things but dumb to know when something is way above my pay grade.

I wouldn't even know how to remove my number from this message thread.

I guess I will just try to figure it out.

Thank you.

Stay safe.

Lee Cabbie333 (talk) 21:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes, this page is public. It is not indexed by Google, but anyone can read this page. I will remove the info for you.

I don't use a phone to edit so I'm not familiar with of the interface details, but editing a talk page post should be no different than editing the article, which you can obviously do. Meters (talk) 21:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Metric.

I'm doing the best I can.

I'm not a computer genius.

Just a regular guy trying to fix something that I see wrong like 'sources' being a fans site from a Howard Stern radio show. Marksfriggin.com His narrative, editorialized version of actual Broadcasts that I was involved in heard by millions of people. Ie; anyone could have formed their own opinion and typed them up days later on their fan site. Whereas I was actually there. It was Broadcast on E TV nightly for years. Is that considered Published content?

See my point?

Again not trying to be difficult.

Just saying that the standard should be the same for everyone.

Thanks Lee Cabbie333 (talk) 01:34, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

You clearly don't appreciate my attempts to help. I'm not out to get you, and I'm not ignoring you as you've claimed below. You never said that you had changed your legal name. You simply said what your legal name was now. When I tried to clarify this with the OTRS people they simply responded that you had proven your legal name and that you were the DJ known as Cabbie..They did not say that you had changed your legal name, so I simply assumed that, for whatever reason, you had been using the other name at the time. No insult was intended.

I've been spending an inordinate amount of time trying to explain things to you so that Wikipedia can deal with the article. The editors at the Teahouse have given you the same advice I did. Take any concerns with the article to the article's talk page so other editors will see your concerns and respond. Click on {{request edit}} and you will see detailed instructions on how to make a request on talk:Lee Mroszak .

1. Create a new section by click "create new section" and giving it a title, or do it manually by going to the bottom of the page and add a header with ==some title==
2. type {{request edit}}
3. tell us what you think should be changed
4. tell us why it should be changed
5. give us the supporting references
6. sign your post (you already know to use ~~~~ for that)

That's all you have to do.

There may well be a problem with the reference you mention. Take it to the talk page and someone will look it. If it's not reliable or it's a matter of someone's interpretation we'll probably just remove the information completely.

You don't seem to think I'm trying to help, and I've spent too much time on this already, so I'm bowing out. Please don't bother continuing this discussion here. I'm not going to follow your talk page any further, and I do not know if any other editors are following it. Meters (talk) 03:56, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for all your help. I didn't mean to infer that you were ignoring me. It's just that when I click on things that you direct me to its difficult to navigate through because of MY LACK OF UNDERSTANDING. Not anything you did. Please don't take it as disrespect. It was never my intention. I will try to figure out the talk page on the Lee Mroszak article as you directed. When you said to contact other editors, does that happen automatically? Do I need to do anything specifically?

Again THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HELP. I truly appreciate it. Be Safe. Stay Healthy. Lee Siegfried. Cabbie333 (talk) 22:27, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, Parazeloo. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by Nick Moyes (talk) 23:45, 30 April 2020 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template).

Ok. Thank you for getting back to me so quickly.

So 'reliable' published sources wouldn't include a Howard Stern fan site that 'recaps' the days show. Meaning that he editorializes it and compresses it to fit his 'narrative'? It's not actually word for word of what happened live on the air for 8 million people to hear nation wide. The site is sourced in the article.

Marksfriggin.com

So Logic says that if I can't submit government documents, I understand. I will find published material.

But I deserve fairness.

The editor Metric won't listen to me. I didn't used to be Lee Mroszak, I was. But I met my biological mother in 2003 and she re adopted me back and took her name. Thus Lee Siegfried. As verified by Wikipedia with 3 forms of Government ID including a Department of Defense ID. I was a Paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne. I suffer from the Gulf War syndrome. I talked about on the radio and went to prison for a year for it. I then fought with the VA for 16 years and won my disability case and proved that I have Gulf War syndrome.

Do you have any idea what it takes to do this?

In 2017 I became paralyzed with #GBS from my exposure to Sarin gas in the Gulf War.

Now I'm in #Isolation at a VA hospital with Vets from all the past Wars. They are dying daily alone. I just want facts.

I will find you 'published' articles. Going back to 1989 when I was a kid in Minnesota working at sex shop.

I've lived.

Wikipedia is a great place and I love it. I used to read the encyclopedia when I was young.

But if Wikipedia wants one way, it needs to be the right thing for me as well. I'm a human. I've got time hopefully. I'm going to keep trying and digging Google is your friend

Lee Cabbie333 (talk) 00:14, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

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May 2020

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Lee Mroszak. Stop making unsourced edits to the article about you. Use the edit request template to propose your edits on the article's talk page and provide reliable sources. Meters (talk) 04:25, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

I understand that. I saw your Last message in April. I only changed my username because you had made a mention of this early on when we first had began discussing edits to the article.

I'm not trying to disrupt anything.

I did have one question, I noticed that like a article about an author or journalist may have links to their websites which have maybe a book they have written or something like that. Sometimes they are selling it. Also they have links to their social media.

I remember that you mentioned to me that Wikipedia doesn't do this. I don't have a book, website podcast, or sell anything. I retired from Broadcasting many years ago. My question is how that is appropriate for them yet I can't have external links to my Twitter & Instagram accounts? Just curious.

Thank you Meters.

Hopefully wherever you are things are getting back to 'normal'

Lee S. Parazeloo (talk) 02:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)