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editWith respect to sourcing please use high quality references per WP:MEDRS such as review articles or major textbooks. Note that review articles are NOT the same as peer reviewed articles. A good place to find medical sources is TRIP database Best
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- Thank you. I will try to use more review articles in the future.
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editThanks for your work on carcinoma. Could I echo James' message above - only secondary sources (reviews/textbooks) are acceptable. Have a look at WP:MEDRS, which outlines the requirements and gives a good amount of useful guidance. JFW | T@lk 22:38, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
- I will go back in and remove 11 references to articles of original research (from the 19 previous references in the new section). This will leave review articles and a few supporting relevant articles from well established academic journals. Thanks for your advice.Chaya5260 (talk) 20:02, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. We make quite a big thing about this but it really pays off in terms of article quality in the long term. Great to have you around.
- Let me know if you need assistance with anything. JFW | T@lk 21:04, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
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- As far as I can tell, the reference [52] referred to was correct, but to play safe I replaced the reference using the Wikipedia Template Filling page. I hope this helps.Chaya5260 (talk) 18:12, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
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- There is an article titled Irreversible process. It is a proper link, as far as I can tell.Chaya5260 (talk) 18:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
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editHi Chaya, I noticed you're continuing to add much too technical content to articles even after being warned not to do so in some of your previous edits. You're essentially creating a WP:COATRACK by going into discussions about general reproduction biology and mechanisms, etc. when the article is about a single species. This kind of writing wouldn't be accepted in scientific publications (key concept there is being concise), and isn't appropriate for Wikipedia either (see WP:TECHNICAL). For instance, we don't explain in every article for Chordate species that they have a notocord at some point in their life. That becomes redundant and unneeded and is the equivalent of what's at issue here. I'm happy to help with guidance on this, but the main thing is to actually stay on topic. I don't know what your background is, but the kind of writing you're displaying is a problem we often run into when teaching undergrads in science how to write, so you definitely wouldn't be the first. Hopefully this ends up helping with content you add in the future. Kingofaces43 (talk) 13:40, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry I got carried away in this manner. I plan to scrutinize my planned additions in the future to avoid doing this. Thanks for the advice.
- I've noticed quite a few of your recent edits are running into the same issues I described awhile ago to you. It looks like you've started copying and pasting part of this edit across different articles when going into description of parthenogensis and thelytoky is largely out of scope for a taxonomic article. I highly suggest keeping such broad descriptions as you did in your first paragraph to articles actually focused on the topic such as parthenogensis. If you come to a species or taxonomic level article, first make sure the content isn't already included in the article as what happened at termite, and use wikilinks instead of going into a full-blow explanation of terminology. Kingofaces43 (talk) 16:55, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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- Thank you for your advice.Chaya5260 (talk) 02:48, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
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editThere are lots of high quality secondary sources pertaining to diet and cancer. Please use these as references. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:11, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
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- The page "Viability" has the definition I intended of "Viability is the ability of a thing (a living organism, an artificial system, an idea, etc.) to maintain itself or recover its potentialities."
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- Thanks, I fixed it.Chaya5260 (talk) 03:19, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
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editI put your piece about fish inbreeding in my sandbox if you want it? Muffled Pocketed 13:52, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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editThese are really preferred over primary sources. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:22, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Thank you for your caution. In this case I was the sole author of the article moved from Ovary to DNA damage theory of aging.Chaya5260 (talk) 21:58, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
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editHey, I see you have been updating some articles about bacteria. Thanks! Natural transformation is a math thing; we have an article on Transformation (genetics). Please try to keep all articles in WP:SYNC. I have gone behind you and done some of that. Jytdog (talk) 04:41, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help. I am sorry I did not use standard Wikipedia terms.Chaya5260 (talk) 02:07, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
- it's ok! nice work and thanks for improving WP! the sources you brought were very good. Jytdog (talk) 02:18, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Multiple overlap
editHi, welcome, and thank you for your many detailed, knowledgeable and well-cited contributions. However, I see you are adding long, similar sections on transcriptional regulation in cancer to different articles on genetics, including:
- DNA methylation (main link added: the near-duplicate sections need to be cut down)
Gene expression(already processed, needs a ref and copy-editing)- Promoter (genetics) (main link added: 4 duplicate sections need to be cut down)
Regulation of gene expression(already processed, needs a ref and copy-editing)Transcription (genetics)(already processed, needs a ref and copy-editing)Transcriptional regulation(already processed, needs a ref and copy-editing)Eukaryotic transcription(already processed, needs a ref and copy-editing)
We should not be repeating material many times across different articles. It will become hard to maintain (any update would need to be made repeatedly, for instance) and people reading different articles will be disturbed by the repetition.
Whether these are WP:UNDUE is a matter of opinion, but that they are similar is not in doubt. It would make more sense to create a single article on that topic, and to link to it with a brief summary in each of the other articles.
There are also various minor matters that ought to be fixed - for example, the additions contain boldface text, which they shouldn't be using.
Could you please stop the series of additions until we have discussed and agreed a suitable way forward. Thank you. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:27, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- The exact (and inappropriate) match of the listed and struck-out (now that I've processed them) articles has led me (per WP:BOLD) to factor out the duplication as a new article, Regulation of transcription in cancer, and to link to it from each place. I have indicated where further work is needed to remove duplication. Please don't do this again. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:56, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- This also goes back to one of my previous comments above in how we avoid WP:COATRACKING content (e.g., not explaining meiosis each time it comes up in another organismal topic). Kingofaces43 (talk) 16:41, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks, I hadn't spotted that. So it's been going on a while, then? I'll take a look at the meiosis thing. It shouldn't be too hard to do things a little better. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:51, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- I actually haven't looked at meiosis for awhile, but that's one of the first types of edits I recall from over two years ago since it was a broad topic they write about while adding it to other articles. I haven't been checking up on this much since my conversation with Chaya back then though. Kingofaces43 (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks, I hadn't spotted that. So it's been going on a while, then? I'll take a look at the meiosis thing. It shouldn't be too hard to do things a little better. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:51, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- I believe that topic was "Multiplicity reactivation"; another candidate for overlap is "Inbreeding depression". Probably there are others. These don't seem to be quite so copy-and-paste as the recent edits, but they do seem to be rather coatrackish in articles on other topics. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:22, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- I am sorry that I had not looked at the talk page until now. I understand that it was inappropriate to have made multiple overlaps. I will stop entering the series of overlapping additions as you requested. I see your method of correcting my previous additions, and agree with it. I have just started looking at your alterations; your wording for a brief summary referring to the new article; and the new article itself, Transcriptional regulation in cancer. I have some concerns with the wording for the brief summaries linking to the new article and may make edits in these summaries shortly. Thank you for your thoughtful work on this.Chaya5260 (talk) 22:56, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
- Many thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:32, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
The reworked section in DNA methylation is certainly an improvement, but it is now very long compared to all other disease/physiological sections in that article, so we have gone around in a spiral. If the new material does not belong in the Regulation of transcription in cancer article (which I'd have expected, perhaps as a chapter named Methylation), then we should create another new article, say Methylation in cancer or Hypermethylation as a cancer mechanism, something of that sort. Right now it again looks like a WP:COATRACK in the DNA methylation article, where after all cancer is just one of many sidelines. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:52, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- I will shorten it. I may move some of it to Regulation of transcription in cancer. Thanks for your commentsChaya5260 (talk) 16:11, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- I plan to first move most of my reworked section to a new article DNA methylation in cancer, and then shorten the section in DNA methylation. Chaya5260 (talk) 19:02, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Sounds ideal. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:57, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
Could you help on Conserved sequence?
editI wonder if you could take a look at this article? I suspect has enough overlap with your area for you to be able to improve it somewhat. Whether it can be refactored I don't know, but perhaps you could update it and add some much-needed refs. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:36, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- I think I can help with the CG islands section, which is not clearly written. I plan to work on it shortly.Chaya5260 (talk) 16:11, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Many thanks. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:22, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- I believe I fixed the CpG islands section, including citations.Chaya5260 (talk) 02:04, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
- It seems much improved. I guess we now need to extend the lead to summarize all the sections in turn, in simple language... maybe I'll start it off (likely full of mistakes). Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:39, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
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- Thank you for your reminder to not put original research into medical subjects. I will also now take out the sub-heading of synthetic lethality and the first paragraph describing synthetic lethality. I will leave in the mechanism I added under the current sub-heading of Mechanism.Chaya5260 (talk) 22:16, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
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- Thanks for catching this Zefr. Diannaa, given your "final warning" above, they are still directly copy pasting from sources, like in this edit and this source.
This repair pathway results in increased mutation frequency and altered mutational spectrum
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- I'm not seeing any response from Chaya after all these warnings. KoA (talk) 16:47, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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