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BAID

Your removal of the alumni list from BAID seems a bit unilateral to me. Against all wikipedia policy i consider the article to be mine, or at least under my protection. That BAID was not a school per se is a fine addition, but not every architect/sculptor/whatever in America went through it's progams and identifying folks who DID (esp. those already in wikipedia) seems to me to be a worthwhile activity. Finding information on BAID is not easy so I feel disapointed about seeing any of it removed. Carptrash (talk) 16:17, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Response Wikipedia articles are to provide accurate information about their topics. BAID was never a school and, therefore, cannot be said to have had alumni. Individual architecture students did not "go through its programs." All BAID did was to prepare architectural problem statements (called programmes) and make them available to schools and independent ateliers to use or not as they wished. Schools and independent ateliers could also send students' projects to BAID in New York to be reviewed; some did, some did not.Chesterct (talk) 14:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

We have all come to our study of BAID from different perspectives. Feel free to make yours the focus of the article. Carptrash (talk) 15:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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As per your thoughts expressed that: The article ought to focus primarily on architectural education, since that was the focus of BAID. The material on sculptors seems secondary

I am not going to pursue this sort of thing any more. Carptrash (talk) 16:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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BAID was never a school and, therefore, cannot be said to have had alumni.

This might come as a surprise to many of the students who enrolled in the sculpture program (one of four programs available, architecture, sculpture, painting and mosaics) and took classes at/in the classrooms and studios at the BAID campus (one building large) in NYC. Perhaps your undersatnding that the school was just about architecture needs to be reexamined a bit, and/or the meanings of the words "architecture" and "alumnus" expanded just a bit? Carptrash (talk) 17:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

A couple of things.

File:BAID awards.jpg

If you write something, anything, on your user page then your name will show up in blue instead of red, making you at least appear to be a serious wikipedia editor.

It is no longer my habit to make very many edits in wikipedia, having had too many hours of my work DELETED by other editors. My BAID material is not in one place in my archives but is located in books and pamphlets and files and xeroxes all over the place. I am not really interested in footnoting what I'm supplying you with as fodder for discussion. I am having this discussion with you in the hope that you will revert at least some of the stuff that you cut out, but that is up to you. Also, in the wish that you will be a bit slower to remove information from articles unless you are very sure that it does not belong there.

Here is a copy from the Bulletin of the Beaux-Arts Institute of Design (June 1927)that specifically refers to "students of BAID."

If you deem it advisable, divide the wikipedia entry into sections, but be aware that there were, at least in 1925, three Departments at BAID, and by 1927 this number had risen to four. They were (1927) Architecture, Sculpture, Mural Painting and Interior Decoration. Something that you should (in my opinion) at least be aware of. Carptrash (talk) 16:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

BAID

Interesting discussion regarding BAID. Although the architectural literature makes it appear that the BAID focused exclusively on architectural competitions, apparently the organization had multiple divisions addressing sculpture, mural painting, etc. Chesterct (talk) 18:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Scheuerman Block in Seattle

You say there is "no evidence [that the] Scheuerman Block [is] by [Elmer] Fisher." The Seattle Department of Neighborhoods seems to think otherwise. That would usually be considered a pretty reliable source. Do you have some reason to think they are wrong? Or is it just that it was missing from some particular list of his work that you consulted? It's certainly in keeping with his style. - Jmabel | Talk 05:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like you found a better source. Good.

By the way, you put my remarks on my user page instead of my user talk page, which is not a good idea. I just finally stumbled across them now. - Jmabel | Talk 00:13, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

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