User talk:ChrisTheDude/Archive 11
Scally's Birthday
editI can't remember the date, but his 40th birthday was a Saturday when we had a home fixture in his first season, and we were given Happy Birthday placards at the gate to wave around (I desisted): well into the season, and I think I recall decent weather, so it might have been Spring time. Do you have a stash of programmes from that era? (I don't). If congratulations can be considered due for a present, given that the present reflects dedication to a course, congratulations on the HotSM. Kevin McE (talk) 20:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
William McGregor
editI may have just the thing to make William McGregor more comprehensive. I've just acquired a copy of League Football and the Men Who Made It by Simon Inglis. The first fifteen pages are largely about him, and judging by the index there's plenty more later on. Oldelpaso (talk) 11:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- It can't be far off now. Thanks for sorting out my hamfistedness, which I swear gets worse by the day. There's a few more bits and pieces which I'm not sure where to place. He was a teetotaller and supporter of the Temperance Movement, and before football dominated his schedule he was an active member of the Liberal Party. It might also be an idea to ask Woody if there's anything extra in his Villa books.
- Reading chapters of this book there's loads of interesting characters deserving decent articles. But for today I'm done, as I'm off to the stadium whose groundsman left a message on my talkpage earlier today :s Oldelpaso (talk) 17:16, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, and if you think McGregor was bad with kids names, check out George Foreman or Emlyn Hughes. Oldelpaso (talk) 17:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- A couple of things I've spotted where sources contradict each other: Inglis' book says "McGregor first saw football being played by stonemasons when he was aged about seven... ...Thereafter, McGregor didn't see another football again until around 1870 when he was drawn south to Birmingham" (p1). On the baseball influence: "Some sources suggest that the idea for a league came from the recently formed National Baseball League in the United States. McGregor, however, always cited the County [Cricket] Championship as his model." (p7) Perhaps the old state both sources with attribution approach is the way to go. Oldelpaso (talk) 13:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- His grave is apparently modest, with no mentions of his achievements. Hope you find it! I'll probably not be around much for a few days now. I work a weird shift pattern, and I'm back on from tomorrow. Oldelpaso (talk) 13:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Even if it wasn't fruitful, I think going at all was above and beyond the call of duty :) Oldelpaso (talk) 11:01, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- A couple of things I've spotted where sources contradict each other: Inglis' book says "McGregor first saw football being played by stonemasons when he was aged about seven... ...Thereafter, McGregor didn't see another football again until around 1870 when he was drawn south to Birmingham" (p1). On the baseball influence: "Some sources suggest that the idea for a league came from the recently formed National Baseball League in the United States. McGregor, however, always cited the County [Cricket] Championship as his model." (p7) Perhaps the old state both sources with attribution approach is the way to go. Oldelpaso (talk) 13:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, and if you think McGregor was bad with kids names, check out George Foreman or Emlyn Hughes. Oldelpaso (talk) 17:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Go for it. Oldelpaso (talk) 10:43, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- All quiet on the FAC front. I'm off on a Euro away match trip soon, so the chances are I won't be able to respond to any FAC comments for the rest of the week. Oldelpaso (talk) 16:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, good work with the William McGregor article. Unfortunately, I've noticed that the photo you have uploaded of the Olympic team appears to be an old Charles Alcock. I may be mistaken but it's worth a double check Villafanuk 10 March 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.237.107 (talk) 01:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Your right, it's not Alcock, although I knew I'd seen the face before. You only have to look at the photo to see its not McGregor. I think it's Arthur Kinnaird - see what you think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Kinnaird,_11th_Lord_Kinnaird Villafanuk 12 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.237.107 (talk)
Gills' first game
editWhile looking at the pages in relation to your first game query (I would suggest a prose mention of the prior reserves' run-out in the history article, but only first team in any table or record claim), I noticed that the "other" first match is described as a friendly here, but as the first competitive match here (first paragraph). Assuming the game vs Arsenal reserves was a friendly (I can't imagine hat competition it would have been in), should the Ilford cup game get a specific mention in the text? Kevin McE (talk) 10:41, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Oxford United Peer Review
editThank for the comments from yesterday. Can you please have another look over the article to see if there are any more little niggles i need to sort out. Eddie6705 (talk) 16:38, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- Once again thank you for the review and hopefully i can count on your support in the FAC in a few weeks ;) Eddie6705 (talk) 15:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Taffy Jones
editThanks for your sleuthing. I've merged the two articles now (into the Herbert Jones (footballer) title). Just in case there's any confusion, now or in the future, the list of his international appearances in the link you provided repeats his appearance against Ireland on 22 October 1927, so the six international caps mentioned in his article is correct. - Dudesleeper / Talk 01:14, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Evidently I don't which is why it's still on the article. I'm interested to know how establishing "that philly sound" on Piracy funds terrorism is relevant to the album though. :-) Roomiebroom (talk) 11:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- No worries dude. The cite is confusing. According to the pitchfork interview in 2007, She says he sent her a loop for Bucky while she was in London, and Piracy was made on a trip to Philadelphia. I think I'm going to remove the part where it says it was made in Philadelphia, unless there's another few refs. Also I think Power Power was what her second album was going to be called. I think seeing as it's part of cover art, perhaps artwork would be the best suggestion I have for it. :-) Roomiebroom (talk) 12:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Ryan Flynn
editHi. I was looking at Liverpool FC's page today and thought about adding a page for Ryan Flynn. Noted you deleted on 29 Jan because of previous deletes. Given he has now played for the club he is at loan on, isn't a new page valid? - or is the conference not considered a fully professional league? Steve-Ho (talk) 14:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the confirmation. Always best to ask Steve-Ho (talk) 17:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
2007–08 in English football
editYou mentioned earlier about possibly working on an English football season article. I've been chipping away at 2007–08 in English football a little, mainly just trying to arrange the content before picking through it in detail. As none of the current infoboxes seemed to fit the purpose, I've just created a new template, Template:Infobox football country season. It's incredibly basic at the moment while I get to grips with how templates work, but I should be able to add more parameters in due course. I would prefer not to deploy the infobox anywhere just yet, in case any of the parameters change (I intend to invite further input from WPFOOTY, but thought I'd get your initial thoughts first - in any case it would seem sensible to wait until a "stable" version is reached before using it anywhere). I thought about adding the winner of each league division and cup competition to the infobox, perhaps with the progress of the national team in a tournament year. I'd make the parameters generic so that any named competition could be added, up to a sensible limit. Some of the main info in sections such as Promotion and relegation and Honours could then be merged into the prose and/or the infobox (once deployed). Any input you have on this would be welcomed. --Jameboy (talk) 21:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- You're right, the promoted and relegated teams would make it unwieldy. I'll see what I can do with it next week when my wikibreak is over. Cheers. --Jameboy (talk) 22:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Dennis Oli
editHey Chris,
Dennis Oli made 111 league appearances, scoring 21 goals for Grays. His appearance info can be found here.
Cheers, --Jimbo[online] 00:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Scally's Dubai residence
editHi Chris
You've referenced this to the 2003 Sun article, which doesn't say anything about him moving to Dubai from last month. Did you have another reference in mind? MarkyMarkD (talk) 17:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Suggested alternatives -
- David Pritchard (2008-08-10). "Scally: I'm still in charge". Kent on Sunday. Retrieved 2009-02-07.
- "Hicks' City pitch to offload Liverpool". Football. Daily Mail. 2008-04-04. Retrieved 2009-02-07.
- "Tale of a Scally and a quick Lerner". Football. The Independent. 2009-01-04. Retrieved 2009-02-07. Nanonic (talk) 18:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I can see that you've re-referenced, but neither of the Kent Online references in the Scally article work. Not sure why. MarkyMarkD (talk) 21:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Crud, they must have taken the articles down :-P -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:45, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- They've re-referenced their site. Found the articles and re-ref'd in the Scally article :) MarkyMarkD (talk) 10:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Bradford City
editNot a good result for the Gills was it ;) - I was quite shocked we managed to get a result away from home, we've been a bit lacklustre over the past few weeks...GiantSnowman 17:47, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Re:GAN
editDone, thanks for the reply. I totally forgot about it.--TRUCO 503 23:09, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
The Final score/Penalty kicks thing has been addressed, and it now shows the score as of full time with the penalties results in the footnote. Regards, Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:41, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Page move
editHi Chris, I have moved your featured list List of number-one singles from the 1990s (UK) to a page with almost the same name but missing out the dash. This was requested for the 2000s article on the FL review and I took the decision to move the pages for each decade. Hope this is ok - it has not altered anything drastically!!! 03md (talk) 15:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Chris - I have created an article on Bobby Veck who spent one season with Gillingham in 1950-51. Can you add anything to the article? Cheers. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 07:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Hot 100 number-one singles of 2004 (U.S.)
editI have responded to your comments. Thanks. --Efe (talk) 11:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- All done. --Efe (talk) 12:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, really strange. This style has attracted attention from those who have better grasp in English. Anyway, thanks for the support. --Efe (talk) 10:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Roy of the Rovers
editJust wanted to let you know that I nominated Roy of the Rovers to be the Today's Featured Article here; so weigh in if you feel like. BOZ (talk) 14:46, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Re: Rufus Does Judy at Carnegie Hall FA nomination
editThank you so much for your time, assistance, and suggestions. I have addressed the concerns you listed, and please let me know if there is anything else I can do to improve the article or earn your support. Thanks again, and best wishes! --Another Believer (Talk) 19:20, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry for the confusion. I have corrected the sentence, as suggested. Thanks again! --Another Believer (Talk) 19:54, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Scottish footballers list
editIn principle, yes of course I'll have another look, but it was failed this morning, so you'll probably have to re-submit it. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:22, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- But now you have, it'd be a shame to waste all your hard work (particularly all those references), wouldn't it... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, i hadn't realised it had been failed until i was just about to leave a message to say all my outstanding issues have been dealt with. Are you going to resubmit? Eddie6705 (talk) 18:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Need your support
editWikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Port Vale F.C. players with fewer than 50 league appearances
You will find all the information on there. I am sure you would be happy to help anyway, but the fact is that if this discussion resulted in the wrong outcome it may well result in your work being deleted as well. So, yeah, I am giving you a big prod here. *prod
Fan of your work.--EchetusXe (talk) 22:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- No problem ;)--₮RUCӨ 21:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Immediately recreated I'm afraid! --Paste Let’s have a chat. 10:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry but could you delete again as it seems that as I tagged it for SD at exactly the same time you deleted it, it has remained up!!! Thanks--Paste Let’s have a chat. 11:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Article change
editI don't understand why you changed "a"-->an in this edit. Is this how the band is referred to? Dabomb87 (talk) 12:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Apologies for not replying sooner. I am more than happy for you and others to progress this, as I think I put more than enough time into it already! Good luck and thanks for your help. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 12:48, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
editYou can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Cannibaloki 15:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- Never seen a reply so quickly. Thanks! Cannibaloki 15:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the support on the FLC! If you've got a second, could you take a look at the parent article, Yukon Quest? It's in the GAN queue now -- you don't have to do that formal review if you want -- I just want a fresh pair of eyes on it if possible. Thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 11:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I've made the appropriate changes, and don't hesitate to ask if there's anything I can do for you. JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:47, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for the pass. I'm working on filling up some of those redlinks, and I'll be ready to throw it at FAC. JKBrooks85 (talk) 11:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Fulham F.C. request
editHi Chris, If you have time would you mind having a look at the Fulham F.C. season 2008-09 page which I have been working on to keep up to date. I have followed a similar structure to the United season page but wondered if you could check the summaries for POV language etc. and cleanup the page. The Premier League review will be written soon. Thanks mate. 03md (talk) 11:02, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- Cheers Chris. 03md (talk) 11:11, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- Have you had a chance to check the page yet. It is up to date with the Bolton result from the weekend. 03md (talk) 13:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- I have addressed all your points - thanks for all that advice that has helped to tidy up a few things. I have shortened the match summaries as much as I can and all the other points have been addressed. Do I need to remove the overlinking in the results section? Thanks. 03md (talk) 21:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Football in Romania
editA few days ago I've removed the template Template:Football in Romania from all Romanian soccer teams. User:Vlad9 undid my edits and added them back. I've opened a discussion [[1]] and everyone that replied agreed with me. Today I've started to remove that template again but he undid my changes again. Please take the necessary actions you think are to be taken. Please keep in mind that the people that replied on the Football Portal agreed with me that that template should not be placed on the club articles. LaUr3nTiU (talk) 15:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
HI!
editHi there! I'm God'sGirl94 and I was just saying hi. So...hi!--God'sGirl94 (talk) 16:39, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Re: SAFC
editCheers for finding that photo, I'll upload it soon. Also thanks for reviewing the list, much appreciated. Sunderland06 (talk) 21:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Played for Gillingham before he came to Vale. You can add info if you have it. Thnx!--EchetusXe (talk) 23:32, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Chris - can you look at this article. It seems like a hoax to me; he's certainly not Wycombe Wanderers current No.9. Cheers Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 08:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC) (in a rush)
Needs a revisit. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. Anyway, check out Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Arular, I left some comments. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Chris - can you help me with regard to a dispute that I've been having with User:82.45.193.152 with regard to the proper name of Benjamin Howard Baker. We have been having a rather silly dispute about the content of the section of the article headed "Surname" and whether or not "all" or merely "most" contemporary sources give his surname as simply "Baker", rather than " Howard Baker" (with or without a hyphen). I prefer the latter and have given my reasons and sources on the article's talk page, but these seem to cut no ice with him. He won't enter into any discussion, but gives all his explanations via the edit summaries, some of which to be frank, are overly aggressive, or maybe I'm being over-sensitive.
I have tried to be reasonable and have left messages on his talk page, but he doesn't respond.
It might help to know that this user is actually the author Cris Freddi who claims to be "the FA's England statto". (Maybe that's why the historical information on The FA's website is so poor). He may be a "resource" as he suggests, although most of his edits have been counter-productive.
Sorry to go on - if you can help, I'd appreciate it. If you think that I'm in the wrong in any way, please let me know. Cheers. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 16:20, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
newcomer on GFC article
editYou may have noticed that I have reverted some good faith edits by a new editor, User:Ecfc, on the main Gillingham F.C. article, and left him an "I don't mean to bite" note to explain that it is only because it is a Featured article that I didn't leave his contributions there. I do think he has a valid point that at least the Peacock era might be worth mentioning in the summarised history, with due referencing. Kevin McE (talk) 21:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Complete lists of footballers
editWonder if you could offer an opinion... The monstrosity which is List of Birmingham City F.C. players with fewer than 50 appearances currently stands at 55kB, but at the moment only contains players with at least 10 appearances. If I add the last batch, the size will more than double, to 113kB, which strikes me as a bit big: your second list is 98kB, and the Port Vale one is 102kB. Do you think 113kB is still OK, given that if I split it again at that point on grounds of size, people might question my sanity: who in their right mind would want to look at a List of Birmingham City F.C. players with fewer than 10 appearances... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:19, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Having looked at that page, I think I might as well just stick the last batch on and hope it doesn't need too much tweaking, at least not when my internet connection's feeling delicate... Please find one new blue link appearing in your list of red ones. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:45, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Enjoy. btw my book says he was possibly born in Brierley Hill. Which it doesn't often do so I left it at West Midlands.
DYK for Bobby Folds
editDYK for Bob Wilson (footballer born 1934)
editThanks, Chris, from me and the wiki
DYK for Chic Brodie
editThanks for all of your hard work! Royalbroil 01:33, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
April Fool's DYK for Gordon Brown (footballer born 1932)
editThank you for your contribution to the April Fool's Day fun! Royalbroil 00:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Brian Statham (footballer)
editDYK for Don Rossiter
editPolicy on Redirects
editHi CDD,
you did a speedy redirect on 11:11 (album), after my VfD. Clearly, Redirect does not need VfD. Sounds logic - apart from de deletiono of the History. I searched in the WP:-pages, MOS:-pages etc, but could not find the policy (how to proceed). So I took the VfD-route. My question: could you point out where the policy is described? No sweat intended, so only without having to search, please. -DePiep (talk) 11:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, History is preserved when changing into REDIRECT. Solved. Thanx. -DePiep (talk) 11:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Tony Blake
editWhen you have access to your books and a minute spare from writing your next featured article, could you possibly look up Tony Blake's place of birth. My book says Cofton Hill, which if it isn't a hill in the Lickeys appears to be a road in Exeter... Also, do you know if he's still living? thanks, Struway2 (talk) 13:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Just created the stub Tony Blake, so anything you can add or correct will be welcome, thanks, Struway2 (talk) 13:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Well, he might have been born half way up the hill... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:35, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry
editChris - you seem to undo everything i do in relation to gillingham. perhaps i ought to pass over any changes i wish to make for marking? i find your agressive stance on things a little sad. you do some good work but like a lot of chaps who work on wikipedia - a little protective rather than allowing collaborative work. let go a bit and stop being such a berk! Dribblingscribe (talk) 09:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)