User talk:Cindamuse/Archive 10

RadioCrazy Classical&Jazz

Dear Cindamuse. You wrote: "The publicdomainproject.org website further lists Carl Flisch as the head of the foundation council. Completely unsourced, blatant self-promotion. Cind.amuse 21:43, 24 December 2010 (UTC)"

For your information - the Public Domain Project won a prize on the Wikimedia Ideas Competition 2010 in Germany - please check before write "Nonsense":

Project 63: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WissensWert/63_-_Public_Domain_Projekt The project is one of the eight winners: http://www.wikimedia.de/wiki/Ideenwettbewerb

I have deleted the text "one of the largest...". The station is a non-profit organization and owns the "Public Domain Radio" (Part of the Public Domain Project). I have collected 500'000 Shellac and Diamond discs in the last 20 years. As a crazy open-minded person I don't want to collect for myself. So I started with this "Public Domain Project" to physical save historical recordings for future generations. RadioCrazy streams the music to the internet via SHOUTcast, Icecast and Windows Media Server since eight years - yes it was in the beginning my hobby - like Patrik Jungo from Swiss Groove or Ari Shohat from Digitally Imported. Do you know that the most Internet radio services starts as a hobby? Now we have 1 Million stream downloads monthly and the radio station is a private limited company (Ltd). One of the channels "Public Domain Jazz" had in October 586,380 stream downloads - SHOUTcast rank it on place 245 from over 15'000 stations.

As a Musicologist I wrote a lot of articles inside the german Wikipedia - so I know the rules. I understand that Wikipedia need a good quality check - peoples like you - so I'm not angry.

Wish you a merry christmas, Crazy Carl, 01:13, 25 December 2010 (CET)

• Hi Carl. First, I would like to extend a Merry Christmas to you as well. I have a few minutes here, so I wanted to respond to some of your comments. While this may seem somewhat abrupt, I want to extend a welcome to the English Wikipedia. Unfortunately, one of your first articles has been deleted. Along with your expressed experience and knowledge of Wikipedia policy and rules, it appears as though the policies and guidelines for the English Wikipedia may differ from those accepted by the German Wikipedia. I am more than willing to offer assistance if you may have questions. Here are a few things to keep in mind.

1. Please make sure to change your username. Your current choice is a violation of our username policy. No one wants to see you blocked from editing, but this is the result of username violations.
2. Make sure not to remove any deletion tags on articles or current issues from your talk page. After issues have been resolved it is completely acceptable to either delete or archive posts on your talk page. Wikipedia prefers that editors archive rather then delete, but either way, the content remains in the revision history.
3. When creating articles on the English Wikipedia, content must be supported by significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. In reviewing the RadioCrazy Classical&Jazz, as well as the articles you have created on the German Wikipedia, I find that most articles lack required attribution and sources. Please always keep in mind that if you create an article on the English Wikipedia, it must also be supported by verifiable sources that are in the English language. If this is not possible, an inline link can be offered, along with a translation of the sourced text presented in either a footnote or on the talk page of the article.
4. The term notable does not equate to importance or value. While Public Domain Project won a prize on the Wikimedia Ideas Competition 2010 in Germany, this does not establish notability.
5. While the work that you have done in collecting musical recordings and establishing an internet radio program is impressive, it does not establish notability.
6. You have a distinct conflict of interest with the RadioCrazy Classical&Jazz article, as well as any articles related to your business interests. This includes articles that you consider writing, including, Public Domain Project, Public Domain Radio, and any alternate RadioCrazy genres similar to that of the RadioCrazy Classical&Jazz article. It is clear that you are not able to write these articles from a neutral point of view. Therefore, we ask that you refrain from creating articles with which you may have a conflict of interest. If your achievements are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you and/or your business interests sooner or later.
   Finally, I would like to state that I appreciate your understanding when I posted the article for discussion by other editors to consider the suitability for inclusion. You are correct that we need a good quality check on articles. From my viewpoint, it is certainly nothing personal. I'm just simply following the policies, guidelines, and structure Wikipedia has established to maintain quality to the project overall. Again, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. And again, Merry Christmas to you and your family. Cind.amuse 00:18, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

SilenceAssociation

• User:SilenceAssociation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I notice that you have added the COI & username user-warning to this account. As the user was already notified about their name, could you please convert the warning to COI only? Their talk page is looking a bit over-blitzed for what is probably a well-intentioned contributor. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 09:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

• ACK! Thanks for catching that. I made the change after I received your note yesterday. Hope your holiday has been a great one! Cind.amuse 00:26, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Theosis (Eastern Orthodox theology)

Hello Cindamuse. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Theosis (Eastern Orthodox theology), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: comment on talk page suggests this may be a valid content fork - allow time for discussion. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 10:29, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for contacting me, John. After reading the note, I probably would have given the same benefit and denied the speedy as well. Hope your holidays have been (and continue to be) great! Cind.amuse 00:36, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Christian Sugiono

Hi Cindamuse... I apologize for doing a mistake.. I though there's no problem with the article... I think I need some experience in editing an article..Well, Thank you very much for the link that you gave... It's really helpful.. Thanks for helping me... Zeus din (talk) 20:09, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

• No worries. I will continue to edit the article for grammar and consistency with the Manual of Style. If you ever have questions or need assistance, please feel free to contact me. Cind.amuse 00:41, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Muhamad Ridzal Ridzuan

Hello Cindamuse. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Muhamad Ridzal Ridzuan, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A10 needs a different article for it to be a dupe of. Thank you. ϢereSpielChequers 14:42, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

• Good call. That said, I don't want ya thinking I'm a total whack job. (I'll cop to being somewhat of a semi-crazy chick.) When I flagged the article, it was an exact duplicate of Mohd Zaquan Adha Abdul Radzak. [1] Kinda weird, but I guess the editor used the Mohd article as a template of sorts for the Ridzal article. Still shaking my head at that one. LOL Hope you are having a good week! Cind.amuse 15:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Copyvios

I recently found a very useful template for the level of copying found in the Her Campus founder biographies: {{subst:copyvio | url=insert URL here}}.

Remove all content and replace it with this tag. Then, hit preview, and at the top of the page you will see a copy-and-paste template code for the copyvio page, with a link and instructions, and a copy and paste template code to add to the page of the editor who created the copyright violation.

The original plagiarized code that has been rewritten in the Her Campus article also must be deleted.

Thanks for working on these copyright violations. --Kleopatra (talk) 20:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks so much. I feel like I've been going around in circles. Then User:ErikHaugen removed CSD tags indicating the copyvio, as well as maintenance tags, then after I restored, the article's editor removed deletion tags and maintenance tags based on the other editor's conduct. Oy vey! Hope you have a great day! Cind.amuse 20:26, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
  • I can never figure out which tag to use before I found that one.
  • If you get frustrated by it, which is very easy to do, just post at User talk:Moonriddengirl and she or one of her talk page stalkers will read the article, find the copyrighted text on the web, add the appropriate tags, list it for deletion, notify the editor who wrote it, expunge the copyrighted text, get everything appropriately deleted when necessary, then very politely thank you for getting them to do all the work. Don't tell her I said so, but it's been my preferred method for a few years now;).--Kleopatra (talk) 20:51, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
    • LOL Thanks for the chuckle! Personally, I simply think Erik deserves a trout. ;) Cind.amuse 20:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
      • Lol, occasionally I think the same, but he is a good contributor and tries to work with the community. I've wanted to trout-slap him more than once, though. --Kleopatra (talk) 21:09, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
        • I'm in Category:Wikipedians open to trout slapping, so feel free. K, I hope your retirement is more of a break; you will be missed. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 21:18, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
          • Yer such a tease! Doctor told me yesterday that it will be five to six months before I'll have full use of my left hand. In the mean time, I'm perfecting my keyboarding skills using only one hand. Oy vey! ;) Cind.amuse 03:36, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Please reconsider

Hi Cindamuse Please will you reconsider the banning of Risk Benefit Solutions from the bill of articles. I had no idea that the name would be blocked. I had no intention to create something that did not meet Wikipedia's guidlines. Any advice or help would be hugely appreciated. Thanks so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julianparr (talk • contribs) 10:32, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

• Hi Julian, I can not help you. While there are many editors on Wikipedia, various editors support separate functions of the project. You need to follow through with contacting the deleting administrator User:DGG.
  
  On another note, I want to offer some advice. There is often semantic confusion over the definition of unambiguous publicity, promotion, and advertising. One of the ways to better understand the criteria pertaining to appropriate inclusion on Wikipedia is to determine if the article has been written or edited in an attempt to manage the public's perception of the subject of the article. Mere publicity, promotion, and advertising need not reference sales or reviews pertaining to the quality or feasibility of the subject of the article. Simply announcing the existence of a subject prior to notability would be considered promotional and inappropriate. The importance or value of the organization is not among the criteria for inclusion. The article about the organization needs to be based on and supported by significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. This is where presenting Risk Benefit Solutions crossed the line. Notability of the organization must be established and presented through reliable secondary and third-party sources before inclusion on Wikipedia can be accepted. Your time on Wikipedia would be greatly enhanced if you would read, review, and come to an understanding of the guidelines linked at the top of your talk page. Essentially, what you are attempting to do here is jump off the high dive, before learning to tread water. Hope this helps. Cind.amuse 11:12, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

I like your wording here, especially "Simply announcing the existence of a subject prior to notability would be considered promotional and inappropriate. " and I shall borrow some of it for future use in the very frequently occurring situation. DGG ( talk ) 05:26, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

I compleletly understand where you are coming from. I assumed that one could create a live page without references and then continue to edit from there which is why everything went pear-shaped! Thank you for explaining the process so clearly. You have been very helpful.

Have a fanatstic New Year! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julianparr (talk • contribs) 07:50, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Same user?

Are you the same user as User:Kudpung who left this message on Steven Schussler on my talk page?. He says he's going to propose it for deletion, but... what happened, you did it first? At any rate, please see this post. Thanks (: BE——Critical_{__Talk} 21:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Cindamuse and Kudpung are most definitely not the same person, but it looks as if experienced editors think alike. Cindamuse just went ahead and did exactly what I gave you the friendly warning about what might happen. The AfD will now run it's course. --Kudpung (talk) 22:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

EMP Merchandising

Hello. Just to let you know, I've provided translated quotes from the German sources to that article and added some references you requested. Regards, De728631 (talk) 23:54, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

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How am I able to convert this into a real article? What other improvements could it use before going 'real'? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JustInn014/Biersach_and_Niedermeyer_Co. I have found sources backing up what is in this, however I do not know how to get it to make a citation. --JustInn014 (talk) 07:15, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

I have made comments relating to this user's attempts to get this article created at User talk:JustInn014. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:58, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

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Your speedy deletion of Murder of Carlos Castro

It was a work in progress, it was not completed. I had just made the preliminary info and was going to add other references, of which there were many. But I had to go out for the night, which was why I wasn't around to place a hold on tag on the article. Silverseren^C 05:24, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy request for Patrick Wee Ewe Seng

Hello, I declined the A7 you out on because the article only needs to assert notability to escape a speedy. The assertion does not need (at this stage) to be properly sourced though of course this needs attending to quickly. Specifically, the A7 guidance says: "The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines.". While I don't think it's a terribly good article, I think it needs WP:PROD or WP:AFD instead of WP:CSD. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 23:18, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

• This article has been created, deleted, and recreated under other names and then deleted again, only to have you state that you see a claim of notability. Sup wit dat? ;) While the issue is rather subjective, I think you're honestly in the minority here at seeing any credible assertion of significance or notability. If you really think if needs a PROD or AFD, why not follow through with that idea? Best regards, Cind.amuse 23:28, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

• The article claims that "Patrick John Wee Ewe Seng is the recipient of the Asia Pacific Most Promising Entrepreneur Award in 2007 (Asia Pacific Entrepreneurship Awards 2007 (Malaysia Region))." which I felt was just sufficient assertion of notability. I've put a {{citation}} tag on the claim and if a WP:RS is not forthcoming soon I will indeed PROD or AfD it. The article's clearly from an SPA editor but I felt I had to go by the rules as I saw them. I try and make my decisions on what I see in the article and the policies, not on what other editors might already have done and said. That might put me in a minority on this, but I prefer to do that than follow the herd. Not that I'm implying herd mentality on your part! I'm probably being overcautious and doubtless this would fail at AfD in its current form. (Off to bed now, UK night time, so will not immediately see any response.) Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 23:40, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

• Hey Kim, it's all good. Thanks for responding. Personally, I see no assertion of importance and do not consider the award as either credible or significant. That said, we don't have to agree. Life is too short. Hope you have a restful night! ;) Cind.amuse 00:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

• Someone beat me to the AfD which is now open. And I even managed to be the first to say Delete which does indicate my general opinion of the article. I guess we'll probably agree about the right destination for this, our only disagreement being the route... Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 15:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)