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  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Chris Heaton-Harris.The discussion is about the topic Chris Heaton-Harris. Thank you. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:15, 5 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

I feel at this point I should mention wp:spa and aslo do you have a wp:coi with Mr Heaton-Harris?Slatersteven (talk) 12:29, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply


I have no conflict of interest with Heaton-Harris other than the fact that I am evidently in search of the truth about the MLM phenomenon, and he has evidently been assisting to hide it.Clive Wynne Candy (talk) 13:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

I presume that you are aware that the UK Fraud Act 2006 (section 3) defines and prohibits fraud by the withholding of information? Clive Wynne Candy (talk) 13:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

If it is your intention to accuse Heaton-Harris of fraud based on his statements in Parliament, you've come to the wrong place to do so. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

WikiDan61, you seem to make a habit of ascribing imaginary simplistic intentions to me. Previously, I provided you with a link to an analysis of Amway compiled by one of America's leading experts on organised crime, Prof. G. Robert Blakey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Robert_Blakey - the man who drafted the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organisation Act 1970. [[1]]). Did you take the trouble to read it? https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/blakey_report.pdf If you did, then you might be able to deduce that Heaton-Harris' scripted role in these complex matters is ultimately unimportant, but it is nonetheless interesting. The RICO Act defines an 'overall pattern of ongoing major racketeering activity' - committing crimes (including fraud), setting up labyrinths of corporate structures to isolate crime bosses from liability, obstructing justice, are all examples of activities that indicate a pattern of ongoing major racketeering activity. Heaton-Harris has obviously been approached and groomed by the de facto agents of MLM bosses for a specific hidden criminal purpose of which he was almost-certainly unaware. His own ego will now probably prevent him from facing the truth. The reason why he was approached and groomed, is that vulnerable ill-informed persons who have fallen for the MLM fairy story, are less likely to face reality and complain to the authorities that they have been defrauded, if they can be made to believe that MLM schemes are perfectly legal and viable, and are supported by leading politicians. Clive Wynne Candy (talk) 13:50, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

BTW. WikiDan61, Heaton-Harris is one of a long, and growing, list of Useful idiots from the world of politics, sport entertainment and even regulation, who have been persuaded to play along with the MLM game of make-believe. Former US Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, is known to have received at least $10 millions via her political consulting company from Herbalife. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SIwtamrPGY In return, Albright made regular appearances at Herbalife mass-rallies and has taken part in promotional videos with the boss of Herbalife, Michael Johnson. https://nypost.com/2014/04/17/ex-secretary-of-state-albright-sweats-herbalife-ties/ One of the tactics commonly-used by MLM bosses has been to offer politicians lucrative, future, speaking contracts. Predictably, Madeleine Albright has not cared to comment on the recent investigation of Herbalfe by the US Federal Trade Commission, or the fact that the FTC found Herablife to be massively in breach of federal law, but then mysteriously allowed the company to continue provided it undertook to reform its chronic illegal activities and hand over $200 millions to victims. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2016/07/herbalife-will-restructure-its-multi-level-marketing-operations Herbalife has not reformed its activities outside of the USA, because it doesn't have to. Indeed, Herbalife continues to operate in the UK without any effective attempt to regulate its activities. Herbalife's UK HQ, is in Boris Johnson's constituency. https://www.herbalife.co.uk/footer-pages/contact-us/ You can watch some of Herbalife's many distressed American victims being interviewed on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Hx3zdjgOuCc&feature=emb_logo Clive Wynne Candy (talk) 15:59, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

What a surprise, there's currently no mention of Madeleine Albright's paid-endorsement of Herbalife/MLM on her Wikipedia page. [[2]], but I doubt whether that true and accurate information would last long, if it was posted there. Clive Wynne Candy (talk) 18:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

The Herbalife page on Wikipedia, doesn't mention Albright either, but it makes for some interesting reading [[3]] Clive Wynne Candy (talk) 18:17, 6 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Slatersteven (talk) 13:22, 7 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

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