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WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - December 2019

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User:96.238.129.124

All edits by this IP have been vandalism (all reverted). And deleting vandalism warnings from own Talk page. Better to go ahead and block? David notMD (talk) 00:30, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

David notMD. Absolutely. I've never done a report to AIV before, so I just warned and hoped somebody else would pick it up; but you've spurred me to report them. --ColinFine (talk) 11:41, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

And blocked 45 seconds later by Materialscientist. Thanks! --ColinFine (talk) 11:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - March 2020

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Hi

I saw you on helping page. Can i ask you something? I write my first article. Did I do it more or less right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michel_v._Tell Thank you! Timi!Tim!11 (talk) 20:52, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Timi!Tim!11. I don't do reviewing, but it looks to me as if your sources are not adequate to show that he is notable: they are either not-reliable (eg IMDb) or are not independent of him (eg the Rhein Zeitung interview) or are not in-depth about him. There are far too many sources about a single event, and many of them say very little about him: hardly any of the sources cover anything else in his life. What we need is quality of sources, not quantity.

Wikipedia is basically not interested in anything written, said, done, or presented by the subject of an article except as it has been reported by somebody independent. The reports of the Harley challenge meet that requirement: but they are all about one single event, and mostly do not see very much about von Tell. (I haven't looked at them all). But what I don't see is a source where where a journalist or author has written at some length about v Tell and his career. Please look at WP:BLP1E and WP:CSMN.

When you think you have got the draft ready, please submit it for review by pasting {{subst:submit}} at the top. But please don't come back and ask me to review it: that's not what I do. --ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Timi!Tim!11, I have added a header to your draft with some useful links, and a button to submit it for review. --ColinFine (talk) 22:01, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Hm? He did the last interview with the most famaouse journalist in Europe (acordring to the rhein zeitung). a show and a movie on imdb. He got 10 Million views on you tube and there are articles from all over the world reporting on his world record?

As far as i read in the rules a world record makes notable. Also reportings all over the world. i find over 30 news articles from 20 countries just from last days about his record? Timi!Tim!11 (talk) 22:08, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Timi!Tim!11. He was the interviewer, so that is not independent of him. Having a show, having a movie, having 10 million views, do not add up to notability as Wikipedia uses the word. Notability is about whether there is enough independent published material to base an encyclopaedia article on. I agree that a lot of sources have covered that one event: it is possible that an article about that motorcycle ride would be possible. That does not necessarily mean that the rider is notable.

I'm not going to engage further with you on this. You asked for help: I have given you my opinion, and you came back with arguments. I may be right, I may be wrong. I have no further interest in Tell or his ride. --ColinFine (talk) 23:10, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - April 2020

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A kitten for you!

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Hi Colin, Not sure how this chatting to Wiki editors works, but I made a comment on your comment on the teahouse page Marcus Lasance Lasancmt (talk) 13:44, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Olivier

I shall apologize in advance. I do not have the time or energy to edit at the moment, and I do not want a log in name & password. I'm not thrilled about the ISP showing either, but there doesn't seem to be an active single place to send in noticed errors. So, I am contacting you hoping this will be the least noticeable way to let someone know, since I detest having any of my information publicly displayed.

The problem with this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Olivier, is that it mentions 3 people being related that I don't believe are. The third person has a name of "Oliver" which is NOT the same as "Olivier". Reading biographical material about Sir Laurence Olivier makes it clear that he and his Uncle are descended from French Huguenots who fled to England.

Thank you for your assistance with this matter.

2600:1004:B03A:92C7:681D:616A:220A:3AB9 (talk) 05:23, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for noticing this. I have edited the article, but rather than removing the entry entirely I have moved it to a "See also" section. You could have edited it yourself, which would possibly have been less effort than coming here and typing a message to me! --ColinFine (talk) 13:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Re: Nataliee97 @ the Teahouse

Hi, Colin. Thanks for taking up the baton with Nataliee97's queries about requesting/starting a new article – as you may have guessed, I needed to get some sleep by that point.

Incidentally, we do know each other slightly in meatspace. Although for my own reasons I've never opened an account, and always edit as an IP, I'm actually the SF fan Terry H. whom you might vaguely remember from UK SF conventions. I attended (and variously worked at) quite a few in the late 1970s to around 2000. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.178.214 (talk) 10:10, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Terry. Thanks for the acknowledgment. Can't quite place you at the moment. --ColinFine (talk) 10:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Grammatical formatting and abbreviation of U.S. state names

Hi Colin, Thanks for the link to the WP style book listing on U.S. state names. It was just what I needed. I'm mystified as to why Wikipedia doesn't use abbreviations of some sort for state names like every other style manual, but so it goes. I'll follow the guide.

Thanks again. Dactyl123 (talk) 23:53, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Dactyl123. There was a relevant discussion at WT:Manual of Style/Abbreviations/Archive 1#US postal abbreviations. Certainly, from my point of view, I am a bit of a map nerd, so I recognise all the US state abbreviations (I also used to know all their capitals, and I knew the names of all the constituent republics of the Soviet Union) but your average Brit would not recognise "MO" or "AK". --ColinFine (talk) 09:10, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Colin, I don't know if this is where I'm supposed to be responding or not, but I appreciate your thoughts on not abbreviating U.S. state names. It's a great point. Clearly, I need to keep Wikipedia's international readership in mind for this issue and others when they come up. Thanks! Dactyl123 (talk) 20:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your answer :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humanitarian2 (talk • contribs) 22:26, 26 April 2020 (UTC)