User talk:ComplexRational/Archive 12
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real quick request
an edit summary on the GPT group article had some pretty gross stuff. think you could hide it. thanks! Gaismagorm (talk) 17:00, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- also one on Conimbricenses Gaismagorm (talk) 17:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Done Thanks for catching this. Complex/Rational 17:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- thanks, have a great day! Gaismagorm (talk) 17:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Quick request for admin
Can you hide these? See here and here. Thanks! Gottagotospace (talk) 16:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Edit: Actually, just any edit that user has ever made, really. They all contain stuff like that. Might also want to do this one too since the warning was left before I saw the stuff on the page that should be dealt with. Gottagotospace (talk) 16:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done Thanks for catching and reverting these Gottagotospace. In the future, though, I suggest that you request oversight for edits containing sensitive personal information. I have already done so this time. Cheers, Complex/Rational 16:17, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advice! Gottagotospace (talk) 16:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2024
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May 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award
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| This award is given in recognition to ComplexRational for accumulating at least 50 points during the May 2024 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 14,452 reviews completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC) |
- @Hey man im josh: Thank you! Complex/Rational 19:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Guild of Copy Editors June 2024 Newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors June 2024 Newsletter
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AfC Review: HELION Hydrogen Power
Would you please have a look at Draft:HELION Hydrogen Power? See if you believe it meets the criteria for AfC acceptance. I found the article on the AfC 3 month backlog. I am new to the AfC process, so wasn't sure what the next step should be. Made a few improvements. I'm sure that it could be further refined. Thanks for your time! DutchTreat (talk) 10:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- @DutchTreat: I'm not too active at AfC and usually older drafts tend to be more difficult and so are left for more experienced reviewers. If you're interested in doing AfC reviews regularly, I'd recommend focusing on the front of the queue (which are more likely to be straightforward accepts or declines) or subject matters with more unequivocal notability criteria such as academics and politicians.
- Anyway, taking a look at this draft, I'm not sure that it satisfies the notability guideline for organizations. Most of the cited sources do not describe the company in detail – of those, the most substantial coverage is in [1], though I can't tell whether this is a sponsored publication, in which case it would not qualify as an independent source. A Google search isn't turning up anything better, though take this with a grain of salt as my knowledge of French isn't sufficient to conduct a thorough search for French-language sources. Complex/Rational 13:34, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for some tips on improving my skills at finding appropriate AfC targets. I have no experience with AfC, but recall that you mentioned recently getting involved. My first thought was the oldest items were are most risk of getting dropped, so I started there. Didn't realize this aspect that these items long on the queue might be the most tricky.
- Your point about notability on HELION is valid. I'll wait for other editors to weight in. Appreciate your guidance. DutchTreat (talk) 10:14, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think I mentioned being involved with NPP (for the May backlog drive) rather than AfC that day, but no worries – happy to help in any case. Let me know if you have any other questions.
- Also, article submissions don't get "dropped" unless nobody edits them at all for six months, in which case they may be deleted under WP:CSD#G13 (though even then, anyone interested in finishing the job may request undeletion). Complex/Rational 21:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
Qupital
Hello, you deleted Qupital on 1 June following its second AFD. How close is the current version to the one you deleted?
There's no recent version in the Wayback Machine, so I'm wondering if it's eligible for G4, especially as article creator oddly created it under the name Qupital Capital, of which I can find no trace online. Thanks, Wikishovel (talk) 11:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Wikishovel: The new version was moved a few times and eventually deleted per the author's request, but it was nearly identical to the old one except for a two-sentence addition about the company's doings in 2024 and a couple of additional citations.
- It's clear that the new version was based directly on the old version; I'd say G4 would have applied, but borderline. It would have been necessary to check the additional sources and ensure that the original reason for deletion still applies (i.e., that no newly added sources reasonably challenge it), and make note of it when tagging. Such cases are usually deletable when almost all the content is identical and there was a strong, recent consensus at AfD, though if the page were rewritten entirely and expanded, I would advise sending to AfD again. Complex/Rational 13:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of Cannonball (LIRR train)
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Your GA nomination of Cannonball (LIRR train)
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UnDeletion Request for page "Qasim Ali Shah"
Qasim Ali Shah page was deleted after discussion due to lack of authentic references. Qasim Ali Shah is a renowned public speaker in my country Pakistan. I am willing to provide authentic references and can also edit the article as per the rules of Wikipedia. So I am requesting you for undeletion of the page. His authenticity is proven that you can check he has millions of followers on all the platforms, youtube, facebook, instagram etc. Abidayub786 (talk) 04:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Abidayub786: The principal issues raised at the AfD discussion were a lack of independent sources providing significant coverage of the subject – in other words, sources that are unambiguously not connected to, or commissioned by, the subject, and that talk about the subject in depth rather than in passing. These include newspapers that have a demonstrated record of fact-checking and independent journalism, for example. Having millions of followers on social media is irrelevant if that has not been discussed in the types of sources needed to sustain an article.
- On these grounds, I will not undelete the page. If you believe authentic references exist, you are free to create a fresh draft and submit it for review via the articles for creation process. However, I doubt that much has changed regarding the subject's notability in three months, seeing as he had an article also deleted in 2018 and 2021. Complex/Rational 13:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do understand, can you guide me is there anyway that I can provide independent sources for the article? Abidayub786 (talk) 08:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with the subject matter or Pakistani media so I can't provide specific guidance. In general, acceptable sources will be published by reputable authors not connected to the subject. Types of sources to avoid include tabloids (usually not reliable), state-sponsored media when press freedom is limited (censorship comes at the expense of accuracy), works published by the subject (not independent), and anything determined to be unreliable or deprecated in this list documenting frequently-discussed sources. Also keep in mind that multiple acceptable sources are needed to demonstrate notability and have a draft accepted. Complex/Rational 14:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I do understand, can you guide me is there anyway that I can provide independent sources for the article? Abidayub786 (talk) 08:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
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- @Pichpich: Thank you! This was a fun one to contribute to. Complex/Rational 22:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Requesting revision delete
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liam_Conlon&oldid=1233176044
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liam_Conlon&oldid=1233176232
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liam_Conlon&oldid=1233176408
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liam_Conlon&oldid=1233177185
These four edits progressively added libelous BLP vandalism to Liam Conlon, with the end result being 700+ bytes of disgustingness. Due to the nature of the BLP vandalism, I would strongly advise you use RevisionDelete to send those revisions to the shadow realm/distortion world/Hell/whereever deleted revisions go. Wait, am I doing this right? This is my first time requesting RevDel. 24.115.255.37 (talk) 18:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done, thanks for bringing this to my attention. And yes, your request was fine. There isn't a general "requests for revdel" page because we don't want to draw extra attention to problematic revisions, so asking any active admin in Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests will do. However, if the material in question is especially problematic, it may sometimes be better to make a request offsite (usually by email or another communication platform), and personally identifying information should be reported directly to the Oversight team via email.
- One more thing to note – edit summaries like this and this can add fuel to the fire, so it's better to quietly revert and report to the appropriate noticeboard. See WP:DENY. Complex/Rational 20:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks 24.115.255.37 (talk) 22:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Another revdel request
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Riley%27s_First_Date%3F&diff=prev&oldid=1230584740 24.115.255.37 (talk) 04:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done, as that material was quite inappropriate. Complex/Rational 12:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- tysm 24.115.255.37 (talk) 21:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Here's another RevDel request, this time because it contains personal information. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Positional_notation&oldid=1233946650 24.115.255.37 (talk) 19:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done. In cases like this, please (also) email the oversight team. You can send an email to
oversight-en-wp <at> wikipedia.org; in my experience turnaround time is pretty quick, usually less than an hour. Complex/Rational 21:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)- Okay. Will be sure to remember 24.115.255.37 (talk) 01:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- And another one
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nebula_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe)&oldid=1234132968
- Only delete the edit summary. The previous edit's username was revdeled, but it was not removed from the edit summary of this edit. 24.115.255.37 (talk) 20:47, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Other admins have taken care of blocking the accounts and protecting the page. Complex/Rational 02:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done. In cases like this, please (also) email the oversight team. You can send an email to
- Here's another RevDel request, this time because it contains personal information. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Positional_notation&oldid=1233946650 24.115.255.37 (talk) 19:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- tysm 24.115.255.37 (talk) 21:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Done, as that material was quite inappropriate. Complex/Rational 12:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks 24.115.255.37 (talk) 22:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
DYK for Cannonball (LIRR train)
On 5 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cannonball (LIRR train), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Cannonball (pictured), a commuter train on the Long Island Rail Road, was once operated exclusively with parlor cars? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cannonball (LIRR train). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cannonball (LIRR train)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
Hello ComplexRational,
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How the "Did You Know" feature works?
Hello and well met. I am a regular contributor to the WikiProject Professional wrestling with over 500 pro-wrestling related created articles (well, kinda with one correspondent to the Japanese language or less). In the past months I saw various users displaying userboxes which depict that some of their articles have been part of the "Did You Know" main page section. Herefore I'd like to know if one of the articles created by someone could ever be featured into this kind of section without the respective user getting a proper notification. Of course, I'm not really hoping for one of my created articles to be a subject of such importance but I heard you're experienced with this thing so I'd love to learn more from you about the procedures of this section and how an article can become a DYK candidate. Looking forward to hearing from you. Best regards! JeyReydar97 (talk) 22:32, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- @JeyReydar97: Any article that has been created anew, undergone a fivefold expansion in prose, or attained good article status is potentially eligible to appear in DYK, subject to additional guidelines. I would not recommend trying to nominate an article mainly written by another user without their involvement, primarily because they are most likely to be familiar with the article's sources, structure, and subject matter (even if it is one in which you're also interested). However, I'm sure some editors would be open to a collaborative article improvement project and resulting DYK nomination, so feel free to reach out to them if that's something of interest to you. Complex/Rational 08:40, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Discussion from JINR of SHE-factory results and what may be next
Here. :) Double sharp (talk) 05:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Double sharp: Nice, thanks for sharing. This is a concise recap of what has already been published, but hopefully is a prelude to the next big discovery. Complex/Rational 13:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
And meanwhile at LBNL, 244Pu(50Ti,4n)290Lv was successful. (I also added more refs at Isotopes of livermorium.) So, I guess we will have a race between 249Cf+50Ti at LBNL and 248Cm+54Cr at JINR. Double sharp (talk) 02:57, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, so the paper's already on arXiv. :) Double sharp (talk) 03:16, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- It seems the LBNL campaign might've been planned earlier than I thought. These slides match fairly well with what has actually been done, except that the last step of 249Cf+50Ti is still for the future. (Ah, how long I have waited! And how much longer shall I wait again, when elements past 120 prove harder still!) Double sharp (talk) 05:40, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I think about it, probably 119 will be really hard. With such cross-sections, I doubt a 249Bk target will survive long enough. So you'd have to use 248Cm+51V with the penalty from having the odd proton in the projectile rather than in the target. :( Double sharp (talk) 05:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also no recent updates that I know about regarding larger-scale production of 254Es. There was a claim that up to 0.2 mg could be produced, but I removed it as uncited [2]; not sure if you have ever seen this or something similar. The wait must go on, it seems. Complex/Rational 09:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've not seen anything about that either. Still, the half-lives of 253,254Es are shorter than for 249Bk, so it's probably not going to help that much with cross-sections. Unless maybe 119 takes so long that 254Es+48Ca can be considered. :) Double sharp (talk) 10:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also no recent updates that I know about regarding larger-scale production of 254Es. There was a claim that up to 0.2 mg could be produced, but I removed it as uncited [2]; not sure if you have ever seen this or something similar. The wait must go on, it seems. Complex/Rational 09:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Now that I think about it, probably 119 will be really hard. With such cross-sections, I doubt a 249Bk target will survive long enough. So you'd have to use 248Cm+51V with the penalty from having the odd proton in the projectile rather than in the target. :( Double sharp (talk) 05:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
revision deletion question
hey, there was a pretty bad edit on Reading, Massachussetts (link: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reading,_Massachusetts&diff=prev&oldid=1240994324). I'm not completely certain wether or not it needs a revdel, but I'm more on the side of a revdel. Gaismagorm (talk) 18:33, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) RD applied, account blocked. For anyone who may feel that is harsh, please look at the filter log. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:44, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- alright, thanks! Gaismagorm (talk) 18:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93 sorry for the ping, but the editor has been making disruptive comments on his own talk page, and this one might also require a revdel. Gaismagorm (talk) 19:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, I had an inkling this would happen. TPA revoked. I wish UTRS the joy of this editor. Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Gaismagorm (talk) 19:11, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Vanamonde93 for swiftly taking action. Complex/Rational 20:06, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, I had an inkling this would happen. TPA revoked. I wish UTRS the joy of this editor. Vanamonde93 (talk) 19:09, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93 sorry for the ping, but the editor has been making disruptive comments on his own talk page, and this one might also require a revdel. Gaismagorm (talk) 19:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- alright, thanks! Gaismagorm (talk) 18:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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Page needs some kind of protection
Hi CR, Racialization has been for many months the target of an IP editor very committed to making sure any cleanup gets immediately reverted. Is it possible to get some kind of protection on it? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:37, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Zanahary: I'll take a closer look when I have a bit more time, which will probably be later today, though feel free to also ask at WP:RFPP if you think a quicker response is needed. I also see that the article talk page hasn't been edited in six months; have you (or anyone) been able to engage the IP in discussion? Complex/Rational 12:53, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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fluorine-30
New isotope. :)
@Nucleus hydro elemon: may also be interested. :) Double sharp (talk) 05:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Another gap in the chart of nuclides filled! :O Hope that gaps 21C, 33Ne, 36,38Na, 39Mg can be filled too. :) Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 06:51, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nice to see some progress. I'm also curious to see up until what element the neutron drip line can be followed. I'll read more when I'm on a computer; thanks Nucleus hydro elemon for already updating isotopes of fluorine. Complex/Rational 08:29, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's interesting to see more confirmation that N = 20 is not magic in this extreme neutron-rich region, indeed!
- I wonder if 176Sn (Z = 50, N = 126) is bound and doubly magic. Not that we'll know for a long while. :) Double sharp (talk) 09:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- According to the graph in doi:10.1103/PhysRevC.105.034315, S2n of 176Sn is around 0 MeV, so it's hard to say that is 176Sn bound or not. I only have access to the abstract, so I don't know more details. On the other hand, doi:10.1016/j.physletb.2024.138571 predicts that 176Sn is unbound, but they also pointed out that the S2n they calculated were too low for N > 82 isotopes, so 176Sn still has a chance to become bound.
- Both graphs have a large jump of S2n from 176Sn to 178Sn, implies N = 126 is still magic there, but doi:10.1103/PhysRevC.91.015809 predicts conflicting result in graph. Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 12:06, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nucleus hydro elemon: Wow! You're good at digging out papers. Thanks for the info! :) Double sharp (talk) 12:28, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ComplexRational and Double sharp: doi:10.1103/PhysRevC.108.034313 mentioned 21C. Not sure do they actually discovered 21C... Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 15:35, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nucleus hydro elemon: Hmm. 21C had already been reported in 2015 (p. 6, Table 3). Perhaps we have fallen behind. :( Double sharp (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- It is already discovered long time ago? I only search references after 2020 because 21C is absent in NUBASE2020. The nuclides listed in Table 3 are quite complicated, some (e.g. 261,262Lr) are listed in NUBASE2020, while others (e.g. 24,25N) don't.
- What should we do for the nuclides that are forgotten by NUBASE2020? Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 16:04, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nucleus hydro elemon: At least for nuclides discovered more recently than NUBASE2020 was published, I just include another citation. I'd be inclined to do the same for "forgotten" nuclides, but I'd imagine a good number of those are only reported in conference proceedings that haven't been published in the literature, unconfirmed reports, or retracted reports, so checks for all of those should be done. Complex/Rational 20:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Nucleus hydro elemon: Hmm. 21C had already been reported in 2015 (p. 6, Table 3). Perhaps we have fallen behind. :( Double sharp (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nice to see some progress. I'm also curious to see up until what element the neutron drip line can be followed. I'll read more when I'm on a computer; thanks Nucleus hydro elemon for already updating isotopes of fluorine. Complex/Rational 08:29, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
BTW, I found an interesting paper on the arXiv noting that unlike the previous proton shell closures, Z = 82 isn't strong enough to keep the neighbouring isotopes spherical, except at the doubly magic 208Pb. It reminds me of how we heard that proton shell closures are likely to be quite weak in the superheavy region and that stability will mostly depend on reaching N = 184. Double sharp (talk) 17:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
Guideline and policy news
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
Arbitration
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
Miscellaneous
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
Sep 25: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting (plus Latin music event on Sep 21!)
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Possible copyvio
These revisions by an IP look like a possible copyright violation to me: the text is basically lifted ad literam from the source. I'm not sure what to do in such a situation — perhaps just delete the text, although it is well sourced, and somewhat relevant (though arguably puts too much weight on the incident)? Or is a more drastic action required by an admin like you, e.g., striking out completely the copy-and-paste edit? Thanks, Turgidson (talk) 19:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Turgidson: Thanks for bringing this up; it was indeed a copyright violation. Because of potential legal implications, copyright violations must be removed and revision-deleted. Generally, the correct procedure is to revert the copyright-infringing edits and request revision deletion, either on- or off-wiki, from any admin on this list. I have reverted and hidden the text in question. Cheers, Complex/Rational 01:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @ComplexRational: Thanks for the explanations, that helps figure out what to do if and when a similar situation occurs. BTW, I had looked at WP:CRD, but the explanations there didn't quite make clear to me how to proceed, at least not at first glance. Also, I looked there for a list of admins that I could contact about this, but I missed the list you mention (I see it now!), so I just looked at a list of currently active admins, and your username jumped at me because of its mathematical connotations :-) Luckily, I see now that you belong to the intersection of the two sets. All the best, Turgidson (talk) 02:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Turgidson: Better than being irrational I suppose :D
- I should also mention that you should place {{cv-revdel}} on an article after you remove the infringing text (specifying the revision IDs), so that any patrolling admin can see it and take action quickly. Before I was an admin, I used this script to help with the process. Revdel requests are also fine, but more intended for other types of problematic content that should not be discussed on highly visible pages. Complex/Rational 14:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @ComplexRational: Thanks for the explanations, that helps figure out what to do if and when a similar situation occurs. BTW, I had looked at WP:CRD, but the explanations there didn't quite make clear to me how to proceed, at least not at first glance. Also, I looked there for a list of admins that I could contact about this, but I missed the list you mention (I see it now!), so I just looked at a list of currently active admins, and your username jumped at me because of its mathematical connotations :-) Luckily, I see now that you belong to the intersection of the two sets. All the best, Turgidson (talk) 02:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Guild of Copy Editors 2023 Annual Report
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Guild of Copy Editors September Newsletter
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Hello and welcome to the September newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since June. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Election news: Project coordinators play an important role in our WikiProject. Following the mid-year Election of Coordinators, we welcomed Mox Eden to the coordinator team. Dhtwiki remains as Lead Coordinator, and Miniapolis and Wracking returned as assistant coordinators. If you'd like to help out behind the scenes, please consider taking part in our December election – watchlist our ombox for updates. Information about the role of coordinators can be found here. Blitz: 13 of the 24 editors who signed up for the June 2024 Copy Editing Blitz copy edited at least one article. Between them, they copy edited 169,404 words comprising 41 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: 38 of the 59 editors who signed up for the July 2024 Backlog Elimination Drive copy edited at least one article. Between them, they copy edited 482,133 words comprising 293 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: 10 of the 15 editors who signed up for the August 2024 Copy Editing Blitz copy edited at least one article. Between them, they copy edited 71,294 words comprising 31 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: Sign up here to earn barnstars in our month-long, in-progress September Backlog Elimination Drive. Progress report: As of 05:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 233 requests since 1 January, and the backlog of tagged articles stands at 2,824 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we do without you! Cheers from Baffle gab1978 and your GOCE coordinators Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, Mox Eden and Wracking. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.
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Sep 21: Wikicurious for Latin Music: Editing to the Beat ♫
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Aluminium-21
@Nucleus hydro elemon: For your attention as well. :) Double sharp (talk) 12:48, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the exciting news! It's always great to see that the nuclide chart get extended. Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 15:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
P.S. I get these updates from being subscribed by email to the Discovery of Nuclides Project. I'd recommend doing likewise. :) Double sharp (talk) 12:51, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I do check the site periodically, but perhaps I should formally subscribe. Thanks for the update! Complex/Rational 14:24, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
@Nucleus hydro elemon: 37,38Sc and 34K. From the same source (i.e. where I got the emails). :) Double sharp (talk) 17:10, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
My Malcolm Guite entry that you wanted reference for his pipe smoking
You deleted the paragraph I put in and I didn't save a copy. The reference you require is a YouTube video of his where he reads his pipe smoking section of one of his published books and of course you can see all of his pipes on display as well in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6fq8pR_sM Murraynews (talk) 19:11, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Murraynews: I reverted your addition because it appeared to be controversial material about a living person and it was certainly given undue weight in the article's lead section. A detail like that should probably be in the section "Poetry and persona", and must include an inline citation to a reliable source. Additionally, a statement such as
Many poets and writers that he identifies...
must include an independent source (i.e., not affiliated with or commissioned by the subject) stating that this is, in fact, a commonly-held opinion. - And as a general note, old revisions of a page can be accessed by clicking "View history" at the top of the page, so there's no need to worry about your work being lost. Complex/Rational 20:59, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
A3 speedy
A3 speedy is for "a rephrasing of the title" as well, not just for no content. If the title is "St. Mary's Cemetery (Washington, D.C.)" and the full text is "St. Mary's Cemetery is a cemetery in Washington, D.C., United States." then it is a 100% A3 candidate, and I don't get why you removed this. Fram (talk) 14:33, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- I posted to your talk page, but I'll respond here to keep the thread intact. I agree that this is not substantial content by any means, but I would say there's enough context and infobox data to be considered a stub, and a non-empty infobox (even without additional contextualization) rules out deletion under A3. The criterion states
However, a very short article may be a valid stub if it has context, in which case it is not eligible for deletion under this criterion. Similarly, this criterion does not cover a page having only an infobox, unless its contents also meet another speedy deletion criterion.
As I wrote on your page, though, I am not prejudiced against PROD/AfD if notability is in doubt. Complex/Rational 14:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)