User talk:Coren/Archives/2008/April

Your right

Yes I saw but the case is theres a no article about Dialog Telekom Limited but both Dialog Telekom Limited and Dialog Telekom is same companies you can remove Dialog Telekom Limited article i will modifly Milanka Price Index. Thank for assist... ShEsH (talk) 14:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Your Bot

Your bot has recently tagged a few album pages as "substantial copies" due to the track listings. Is there a way you can fix that? Undeath (talk) 20:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Conduct of Cheeser1

On November 28, 2007, you had blocked editor Cheeser1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) for 31 hours due to edit warring. He received a reduced block as he promised not to do it again. He has repeated this trend and there is currently a WP:3RR for him [1]. Thank you for your time.Netkinetic ^(t/c/@) 21:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I've looked at your edit history, and the anon's. You do not want to involve me in that dispute, because I'm pretty certain you won't like the result. — Coren ^(talk) 22:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:RFA statement

(Let's keep this on your talk page, I get confused by double vision)  :-) — Coren ^(talk) 00:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Not sure where to put this

I was exploring the talk pages and found the ArbCom dispute involving Jersyko. I noticed that you informed several people of their involvement in the dispute, and that all claimants appear to have been permanently banned and therefore unable to argue.

In the case against Jersyko, it accused Tvoz/Bobblehead of being "meatpuppets" and indeed they have accused me of being a sockpuppet as well. I'm not sure if I should add this information to this ArbCom dispute - especially since Jersyko has not been directly involved as of yet.

One more thing, they requested and apparently received a "checkuser" request from Thatcher [2]. My question is, is this appropriate? A formal request not made, and this appears to have been a backchannel method for obtaining my IP address and seems to violate my privacy. I could really care less about my privacy, as long as I don't get hacked, but this seems inappropriate to me, especially if this has been a method of banning new users.

Sorry for throwing this on you, but you appear to be a neutral party (from a cursory glance at your history) and you seemed like a good person to ask about the under-the-table "checkuser." TheGoodLocust (talk) 05:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry about it; it's common for checkusers to be done outside the normal process to avoid adding extra acrimony to an already involved process when there is already a discussion about some incident. You'll note that the checkuser (Thatcher in that case) did not reveal your IP, or indeed more than the fact that you were one state away from the (also undisclosed) state of the editor he checked you against. The Request for Checkuser process is there to give all the context to decide whether to make a checkuser when the request is "out of the blue", as it were, as opposed as within the context of some other incident. — Coren ^(talk) 12:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

A place in the dirt

There was no page so I posted the artist, album, and lyrics. There are other pages (not in wikipedia but on the web) with lyrics, but I decided to put it in one place. I ststed my source at the end of the lyrics. The page is probably removed. It should be up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gothrock4life (talk • contribs) 02:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

MEGAN

I don't know the ins and outs of publishing your own stuff on Wikipedia, so I just rewrote the guy's article to remove the copyright violation. How does this bot work? Can you ask it to check a particular article? --Blechnic (talk) 04:11, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Coren - greetings. The "bot" has flagged a very simple, one-line description of GenVec, a biopharmaceutical company, as possibly being a copyright violation because the one-liner is also linked to the company's website (www.genvec.com). There is no cause for concern -- GenVec is a publicly traded company, the website is a public access website, the one-liner is consistent with GenVec's publicly-distributed descriptions of itself, etc. etc. Please can you remove the bot's notice of concern? Thanks much - Umtalor

re: Speaker Junkies

--TeknoPunk (talk) 17:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)The biography and description for Speaker Junkies' submission is not a copyright infringement. It is the biography of the band and is available for publice use everywhere.

Confused on a bot message...

specifically this one. It's right... I created the museum article following a merge, and then I redirected the creator as I normally do per WP:MERGE, what did I do wrong that triggered bot? Thanks! TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 04:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: New BoyLover.net article

While this article is a substantial copy of information held at another site, I belive the content of the page is covered by the GFDL listed on the originating site. http://eng.anarchopedia.org

Ganymede 901 (talk) 16:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Harrison Potter

I have rewritten the Harrison Potter article to what I hope will be a suitable copyright standard. --Wrightjack (talk) 22:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

PHG

Coren, I would appreciate it if you would unblock PHG as immediately as you can find reason to. I will provide sufficient reason at his talk page within minutes. John J. Bulten (talk) 23:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

If there's no objections, I'm lifting the block. I'd like to see how the AfD is concluded, at the very least. Thx in advance for your cooperation. El_C 23:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, it's been a little while and I don't wish to have the user remain blocked any longer while I await for a response, so I'm going ahead and unblocking. I'll reiterate my rational: there was an AfD opened first, and it, therefore, is the process that will determine whether there has been fabrication or gaming the rules. Had the AfD concluded this, I would take no issue with an indefinite block pending mentorship or whatever arrangement — but the block has taken place prior to such a finding. It also restricts the user from participating in this process. As admins, we have to follow our own rules. As long as the AfD remains open, it, in theory, can still vindicate the user's claim. El_C 00:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for no faster answer, El_C, I'm just back from work. Can you hold on on the unblock for ~10 minutes while I catch up, please? — Coren ^(talk) 00:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Eeep! One minute (or less). Talk about timing! — Coren ^(talk) 00:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that. Mere seconds. El_C 00:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

You should not have over-ruled me on unarchiving the AE report. That reflects poorly on you. El_C 00:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Let's agree to disagree on that. I don't beleive that discussion should be held anywhere else, and I don't agree that the AfD is relevant to the discussion to begin with. — Coren ^(talk) 01:01, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I think you're too inexperienced, and it shows. El_C 01:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I think that is being patronizing. Please keep this discussion on AE, on topic, and the tone a little more mature, alright? — Coren ^(talk) 01:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry you find it patronizing, such is not the intent. But you have already been cautioned about this before. El_C 01:10, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Coren, just to make sure that I am understanding the sequence of events here:

• 20:16 - Jehochman started the AE thread[3]
• 21:24 - You blocked PHG[4]
• 21:53 - El C put the AE thread "on hold" [5]
• 23:08 - El C told you the block should be lifted.[6]
• 00:11 - El C unblocked PHG[7]

Did you, Coren, at any point say that you were okay on El C unblocking PHG? Or did he just unilaterally overrule you? --Elonka 02:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

It's unfortunate Elonka cannot give it a rest. Anyway, Coren is on record stating: "were it not for the timing, I would have opposed the unblock." El_C 02:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Coren said that at 00:43, after you'd already unblocked.[8] El C, what you did was a serious breach of administrator ethics. See WP:WHEEL, and please think hard about whether or not you feel that you are genuinely suited to keep on being an administrator. --Elonka 03:02, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Elonka, please. Don't read more into this than necessary. I assume El_C would have delayed then discussed the unblock, if he had known that I was just a few seconds behind him— whether we had agreed after that discussion or not doesn't mean that it wouldn't have occurred. — Coren ^(talk) 03:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Elonka needs to slow down, she is getting ahead of herself. El_C 03:51, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

DHONG-DANG

Dear all,

My family is the owner of the DHONG-DANG Catering Service, so I would like to post my family business in this web to let the world knows about our first business of the family and it will keep going.

Thank you very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChittakoneR (talk • contribs) 01:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Manuel Octavio Gómez

Hey, just letting you know that your bot tagged this article as a copivio but thats not really the case since a list of movies isnt copyrightable ( I used Imdb as a source) Cheers! -Acer (talk) 03:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Casey Gwinn

We have posted the resume of Casey Gwinn under his name pursuant to his personal authorization. Casey Gwinn serves as the CEO of the YWCA of San Diego County and as the President of the Board of Trustees of the National Family Justice Center Alliance. He has authorized both organizations to publish his biography.Fjcdreamer (talk) 18:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Terra Nature Fund

Terra Nature Fund and TerraNature are separate organizations, but they are affiliated, are jointly managed by me, and share the website http://terranature.org. Terra Nature Fund only supports TerraNature with funding and work resources. The descriptions of the objectives and work of each group is therefore the same. User: Terra, April 6 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tnf (talk • contribs) 05:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

moonraisers copy right

hi i was invited to post a comment a bout the moonraisers copyright section:

im the official administrator of moonraisers.com and the article in http://www.swiss-music-export.com/p.php?ID=209 is a copy of our homepage!!!

cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megabass (talk • contribs) 08:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

New Brunswick general election, 1866

The CorenSearchBot identified this page as a substantial copy of page http://medlibrary.org/w/index.php?title=New_Brunswick_general_election%2C_1866&action=edit. The problem is that the page at medlibrary.org states clearly that it is presenting material from Wikipedia (in fact, the article which CorenSearchBot is identifying as a possibly copyright violation). This bot may need some retooling to prevent future false positives. --Big_iron (talk) 11:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Please clerk this request

{Jersyko and Archtransit}

Initiated by 165.21.155.112 (talk) at 07:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[elided]

I'm sorry, but since the Arbitration Committee has already rejected cases from you as "frivolous", you will have to email the committee directly if you with to present a new case. — Coren ^(talk) 15:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

You are wrong. One person from ArbCom decided not to hear it but then some other person blanked out the ArbCom request. When you blank out things, it is considered vandalism.203.118.53.72 (talk) 03:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC) (Harry59c)

Not not pick nits, but accusing arbitrators of vandalism is not going to win you any points. — Coren ^(talk) 12:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

It was suggested that I watch over this (I don't want to get involved other than that). The person who blanked out things was not an arbitrator. Therefore, your statement is in error. Shouldn't you do the right and honourable thing and submit the request and let the committee decide if they want to here it? A clerk is not the judge who decides what cases the court hears. Again, I don't want to get involved so that's the end of my involvement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.123.1.36 (talk) 13:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I also see that the person Harry put something on AN. Some commented but some admin took it upon himself to censor the comment with the excuse of trolling. Is WP crazy?

It should probably be noted that I blocked this IP address for harrassment against me while obviously evading his block, apparently he confused me with Consumed Crustacean who removed the thread from AN, but even if it was Crustacean who received the trolling we shouldn't allow blocked editors to go around editing disruptively. - Caribbean~H.Q. 22:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Canadian Diamond Code of Conduct article

Earlier today I tried to create an article explaining what the Canadian Diamond Code of Conduct is about. I am the Treasurer of that Code. The text of the article was extracted from our publication and was reviewed and approved by the Canadian Diamond Code Committee (CDCC). The CDCC owns the copyright of the Voluntary Code of Conduct for Authenticating Canadian Diamond Claims (the formal name of the Code). We still want the article to be posted. How do we do that? Pierre Leblanc (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

CorenANIBot

Heya, thought I'd show you this: [9]... I was messing with level 4 headers, and the bot took out some of the interwikis. SQL^{Query me!} 10:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Heh. Yeah, it really wasn't meant to deal with interwikis; only noticeboard-style pages. I could limit it to level 2s and make it understand footers if needed; although the AN format was the only one I intended. (And it's all pretty much moot now, I think). — Coren ^(talk) 12:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

DOA story

I did not copy from the website that was stated(freewebs), it was from the official Dispatch Of Army's website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Useryou (talk • contribs) 14:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Doozla

i did not copy from that website. i got it from official website —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinh1000 (talk • contribs) 17:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Should vs. must

It should be phrased as a recommendation, not as a requirement or even as strongly worded as "should". I would be fairly certain that there are a lot of admins who would block over this sentence, and would refuse to unblock because "you're just using semantics to avoid doing what policy says you should be doing". You could have "It is suggested that bot accounts are restricted to one task per account for the following reasons:". That I would be fine with. Anything more strongly worded is not something I'm going to agree with. If you think admins are going to show common sense and give existing bots leeway and such, then I will bring to you one example I remember very clearly (though not to the level of who was involved) where a developer's bot that had been running since long before BRFA's were required was blocked for failing to link to one. There are policy nuts admins, and I don't feel like having to argue with them every time one of them comes along and blocks my bot for my egregious policy violations.--Dycedarg ж 02:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

my talk page

IS it to be permanently locked? ThuranX (talk) 11:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Coren/Bot policy

Consider moving to a Wikipedia: namespace? Monobi (talk) 03:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Coren search bot down?

no edits since the 8th of april? --Fredrick Dayton (talk) 15:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

So it was. Erg. I didn't even notice the server had been sick— now fixed. — Coren ^(talk) 19:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Tribal Fusion

it seems that you returned the article "Tribal Fusion" You need to understand that a user has written that Tribal Fusion has adware, there is no citation and no proof. Tribal Fusion is a very large database of advertising, we need to take this comment about adware down —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coheed56 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

my bad, I didnt realise we werent talking about the same site, How do they get away with it? they are bigger than AdBrite --Coheed56 (talk) 01:05, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Beautiful edit summary

One of the best I've seen.[10] Good luck with it. Durova^Charge! 03:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Mount Toyoni

Your bot tagged the article Mount Toyoni (Erimo) which is very similar to Mount Toyoni. There are two mountains with identical name, but different Japanese characters/kanji. I am going to create a disambiguation for the two articles, moving Mount Toyoni to Mount Toyoni (Urakawa-Hiroo). imars (talk) 21:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

A request

Coren, I'm writing to ask that you not do or say anything that might escalate the tension regarding a recent exchange of Giano's. He has asked a reasonable question of FT2, who seems to have a good reason for not being able to reply onwiki until he's made more inquiries, and so he removed it from his talk page. Giano has now moved the question to the policy talk page, which is more appropriate. That's hopefully the end of things until FT2 has time to consider a reply, which as I understand it requires some research. Both were acting in good faith, as were you in trying to calm things down, but I'm just worried that the more that is said, the less calm things will become. :-) SlimVirgin ^talk|edits 23:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

At this point, Giano seems to have gone to sleep. Night brings counsel, and it is to be hoped that next day will bring cooler heads. — Coren ^(talk) 23:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

It is indeed to be hoped, but sadly in vain, because someone has just blocked him. See his talk page. I hope you'll add your voice to the request for an unblock. SlimVirgin ^talk|edits 23:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and no. I don't quite disagree with the block, even though the timing is regrettable. See my comment on Giano's talk page. I'm not going to argue for removing the block, albeit I am not going to argue against removing it either. — Coren ^(talk) 23:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

George Schetky

I corrected the text on this page. VoxNovus (talk) 03:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Recommendation re your message on Irpen's page

I suggest you give yourself a little time to calm down before you post a reproach on the wiki, Coren. Try the time-honored counting to ten, if necessary. Or try telling yourself: "I'm not a badtempered Victorian father about to deliver a caning. I'm not a Dickensian captain of industry sacking a minion. This is not a humble slave I'm addressing." Don't be shrill. Don't hector. Whether or not you use that kind of tone in real life—I take leave to doubt it—please don't bring it here. We all have a shared responsibility for promoting a decent community climate. Please think about it. Regards, Bishonen | talk 12:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC).

In that particular case, whilst quite outmoded, the caning sounds like it would have been a good idea. Certainly well deserved. Oh well, live with the times. — Coren ^(talk) 12:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Ali Pabrai

I was instructed to create a biography page by Mr. Pabrai for him on wikipedia and because he has the same information on his own website, I am unable to post his bio here. How can I post his bio without infringing?

Hollowbelly15 (talk) 23:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

New GFDL site

I am working Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2008 April 3/Articles and found CorenSearchBot tagged Kevin Dilmore which is a copy and paste from http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/Kevin_Dilmore which has a GNU Free Documentation License. I am guessing you have list someplace to add this to? Jeepday (talk) 02:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I will let you do the update this time. Jeepday (talk) 02:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This one as well http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page which I beleive would be added as \ .wikia.com/ or as \ .?wikia.com/, But I hesitate to test on a system that I don't have control of. Jeepday (talk) 02:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll add both. For the record, both were technically correct, but a little overgenerous: they would catch all wikia sites (which may actually be the right thing— do all Wikia sites use the GDFL?) — Coren ^(talk) 04:17, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Yep http://www.wikia.com/wiki/About_Wikia Wikia was founded by Jimmy Wales and Angela Beesley in 2004. Jeepday (talk) 04:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

all the Wikia are GFDL - http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Terms_of_use Any use you make of content hosted by Wikia, Inc. must be in line with the terms of that wiki's license. Most Wikia are available under the GNU Free Documentation License. Memory Alpha and a few of our other sites are available under a Creative Commons license. Any content you upload or post to any Wikia, Inc. wiki must be compatible with the relevant license (for example, the GFDL for any Wikia, or the relevant CC license for other wikis) I updated User:CorenSearchBot/exclude based on your example. Jeepday (talk) 04:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Fermanagh Trust

I'm writing to ask that you remove the tag from the article that has been added to Fermanagh Trust. We give permission to use this text which was copied from our website www.fermanaghtrust.org. Thank you Fermanagh Trust info@fermanaghtrust.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fermanaghtrust (talk • contribs) 11:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

CorenSearchBot

I'm an admin at nowiki, and I'm wondering if it is possible to use this bot on another language? Perhaps even run it from an other machine and against another web search engine? By using the web search engine no:Sesam we could scan norwegian newspapers which otherwise isn't indexed. Jeblad (talk) 15:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

It should be fairly easy to adapt; the search function is pretty well isolated. Are you looking for the source only or for someone to run it? — Coren ^(talk) 17:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Mey

Hello, the article Mey has been split in 2 articles. The content of Mey (instrument) was temporarily a copy of Mey. — M-le-mot-dit (T) 18:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

GNU Nana copyright violation?

The GNU Nana does use bits of the text out of the GNU Nana homepage at www.gnu.org. Since nana is available under either GPL or BSD style licenses I think this is fine but of course I may have failed in the intelligence test. Do we need to get the FSF to release under the GFDL?

Amendment: sorry, had a proper look at the GFDL license, its not compatible with the GPL, Debian don't like it, oh my go its full of stars.

Ballanda (talk) 01:53, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Template question

Hiya, I was admiring the template that you'd placed at Talk:John Buscema awhile back.[11] Could you tell me if that was an expanded version of an existing template? Or did you massage something else to make the message? I'd like to provide something like that for an example at some discussions we're having at the WP:WORKGROUP wiki, and before I go and make my own, it's much easier if I can just copy somebody else's!  :) Thanks, Elonka 09:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I used Template:User article ban arb, which used to look a lot like Template:User article ban. It's been tweaked to be more distinctive a bit ago, but you can grab the older version (around Dec 2007) from the history. — Coren ^(talk) 12:36, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that's exactly what I needed to know.  :) --Elonka 01:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Travb block

Coren, can you confirm something for me? I was just looking through the diffs when you re-blocked; which diffs are the really problematic ones? (I'm saying this in the light of the recent fiasco with MONGO, obviously). Technically, you are wheel warring. Black Kite 23:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. Stanley Cup.  :-) In particular, [12] is problematic, so is the edit summary of [13]. Given the recent arbcom ruling and the necessity of having no tolerance in that editing area, the block is entirely warranted— mind you I agree totally that WMC should not have done so himself and brought it to arbitration enforcement instead. — Coren ^(talk) 00:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, fair enough - I just wanted to check as it's a delicate area :) Thanks, Black Kite 08:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Coren, I understand your point but is it normal block a person without any previous warning?--Pokipsy76 (talk) 15:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Humanitarian League

Hi, your bot sent an automated message stating that part of an article I have started is a copy, the section I think it has picked up on is the part (which I have now deleted, for now, until I hear from you) is the part that sets out the organisatons OFFICIAL WRITTEN AIMS (their core manifesto) specifically, I don't believe that I can embelish these, they should stay as they were orginally written down by the League. See [14] Aims and Objects etc. these should be as they were first laid out as reproduced in their original form by that webside also. What do you think? Will await your reply. Thank you. Sue Wallace (talk) 10:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Monoculture (computer science)

The bot found a mirror of Monoculture which is where is split the Monoculture (computer science) article from. -- Alan Liefting- (talk) - 10:52, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

help

Hello. As you may know I was blocked for 2 weeks by the admin Alex Bakharev for allegedly having a socket puppet called Neptunes. The block is over now, but Alex still hasn't clarify his decision. I think i have the right to see a solid evidence, 'user check' or any sort of evidence. I have contacted Alex several times but i see no sign of respond towards revealing his evidence. so can you please get envolved as a third party. I know for sure that Neptunes2007 is another user. so I am 100% sure that there is something wrong with the decision. Best regards --Aziz1005 (talk) 13:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Iam still waiting for your reply. thanks --Aziz1005 (talk) 12:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm uncertain how, exactly, you expect me to help? — Coren ^(talk) 13:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Do I have the right to know why I was blocked and what kind of abuse has happened? You as a third party can contact Alex and ask him to justify or clarify his decision. So far he does not want to listen unless another admin get involved. So can you conact him to reveal his evidence or ask him to at least give me one example of an abusive contribution i have done. Thanks --Aziz1005 (talk) 15:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Is it clear now? can you please reply since i need to end this issue as soon as possible--Aziz1005 (talk) 14:49, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Heartless Crew

Hi,

The bot found that the Heartless Crew article included a substantial copy of http://www.last.fm/music/Heartless+Crew. This is because I wrote that article and I have explicit permisison from the site to reuse the material. They state on the editing page that

All submitted content remains copyright of the author, and is licensed under the GFDL.

Thanks

Raverdrew (talk) 15:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Bot spots Wikipedia mirror

I just received a notice from CorenSearchBot, who informed me that an article I had just created, Eerste Divisie 1956-57 appeared to be "a substantial copy of http://medlibrary.org/w/index.php?title=Eerste_Divisie_1956-57&action=edit." Medlibrary is a Wikipedia mirror, the article I created was directly posted there. Just thought I'd let you know. Aecis^Brievenbus 23:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Jan-Erik Lundström

I have explicit permission to post this informtion, much of it of a straightforward ie. factual nature, verifiable through multiple references. Zeitgeist fink (talk) 10:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

IFISO

As forum moderator I have permission to use content from the IFISO website http://www.ifiso.org please remove the deletion tag. joseluisleon 20-4-08 20.00 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseluisleon (talk • contribs) 18:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

CorenSearchBot

Hi Coren, can CorenSearchBot deal with non-Latin script such as Arabic? Would you like to run it on ar wp if I were to look after its edits and answer questions there? Or will the code be available soon? Санта Клаус (talk) 21:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

That's an excellent question. I suppose it would, given that it understands UTF-8; but I don't know how reliable Yahoo would be at searching arabic text. I can try, if you point me at a wiki (and guide me through the bot process there). — Coren ^(talk) 06:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Excellent! Yahoo does a good job in searching all types of texts including Arabic. Would you please create accouts on Arabic wp ([15])? The bot process is straightforward (applications) - I can make it on your behalf if you like. I guess no harm in trying it out. I can't help with technicalities but I know people who can help if needed. Many thanks. Санта Клаус (talk) 12:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I've created ar:User:CorenSearchBot, but I admit that I get hopelessly confused by the right-to-left user interface and editing.  :-) My user account, ar:User:Coren exists automatically because of unified login, but you probably want to point here on en.wp. Please do the application on my behalf and set up a user page and talk for me and the bot in Arabic (preferably pointing back to en.wp) and give me a holler once the approval goes through. I'll start the bot up once that's done. — Coren ^(talk) 14:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I have posted in the village pump about it. Please do a few runs. I still need to copy the template it places on users talks. Much appreciated. Санта Клаус (talk) 15:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

About a message to me

Nice to meet you. A message came to my page, but there cannot be the thing that I did copying such as the indication. What kind of thing will it be?--Nameless User (talk) 14:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

The second message came. I have not done copying such as the indication.--Nameless User (talk) 14:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I have received the same message, see #Bot spots Wikipedia mirror. CSB spotted the exact same article at medlibrary, which is a Wikipedia mirror. See Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/Mno#medlibrary.org. Aecis^Brievenbus 15:24, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Site medlibrary.org has Wikipedia content

23 April 2008: I just created new article 1280s_in_architecture, and CorenSearchBot was not aware that medlibrary.org copied the new Wikipedia page content into the medlibrary webpage http://medlibrary.org/w/index.php?title=1280s_in_architecture, using the exact same title and subheader names. Website "medlibrary.org" (as a copycat) should be omitted from copyright comparisons. I will untag that page when I add more buildings. -Wikid77 (talk) 15:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm sorry I hadn't gotten the opportunity to exclude that side; I'll handle it a bit later today. — Coren ^(talk) 16:03, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

'tis done. — Coren ^(talk) 22:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Does CSBot notify makers of accused copyvios?

Many creators are not getting to know this. Ultra! 18:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Fine I saw the bot notifying. Ultra! 18:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Your bot

gave me a warning of possible copyvio of Sogyeok-dong which I also created. [16] The dong (neighborhood) articles recently created by me are at stub with same sources and format, so the bot could not detect the differences of the mentioned articles, but if I get the same warning sign by the bot, you might think about whether it is properly working. Thanks..--Appletrees (talk) 20:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I got the absurd second warning. Please fix your bot soon. --Appletrees (talk) 20:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

The bot is functioning properly: the stubs are basically identical, exactly what it was designed to detect. — Coren ^(talk) 21:13, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

The contents are not identical if you read those. I do not want to waste my time to throw the false warning whenever I created geographical stubs. So fix it not to send me such warning.--Appletrees (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Seaon Bristol

The Bot sais that the information is taken from http://411.salsafrenzy.com/Seaon. but the information is taken from http://seaonstylist.com/Seaon%20Bristol~Stylist.htm which is Seaon Bristol's own website and I think it's allowed to use the information about him for his own page in Wikipedia and it's a kind of Pubic Domain. However I sent an E-mail to Seaon Bristol's e-mail adress and asked for permission.Solino (talk) 12:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

CorenSearchBot

I'm an admin at nowiki, and I'm wondering if it is possible to use this bot on another language? Perhaps even run it from an other machine and against another web search engine? By using the web search engine no:Sesam we could scan norwegian newspapers which otherwise isn't indexed. Jeblad (talk) 15:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

It should be fairly easy to adapt; the search function is pretty well isolated. Are you looking for the source only or for someone to run it? — Coren ^(talk) 17:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I can run it myself if the code is available, but its not very important for me to be the bot operator. There is a norwegian company running web search bots, and they will probably be a lot better for norwegian web sites. Do you have any public documents about the bot? Jeblad (talk) 14:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Any progress on this? 87.248.5.124 (talk) 14:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Search Bot

Hey Coren

Quite an innovative idea, making a bot that discovers potential copyvios. Any chance i can borrow the functioning bot files so i can run them on ar.wp from my toolserver account ?

Let me know

--Lord Anubis (talk) 15:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

No response yet?--Lord Anubis (talk) 12:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The source is here, but running from the TS is problematic: Yahoo limits searches by source IP, and when CSBot ran there for a while it quickly ran out. — Coren ^(talk) 12:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I ll try to run it from my machine then. --Lord Anubis (talk) 13:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

North California Golf Association

Your bot says that that I have used copyrighted info from the NCGA.org web page. I simply have stated the FACTS of the organization from their website. I assume that is why the bot caught my article. I cited the About page of the website. If I am at fault here, that is ok, but please tell me how else I could have stated these facts.--TravelinSista (talk) 17:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Donnalee Lozeau

I see where the confusion was. The title of the article state's city's first female mayor and the first sentence says she is the first women in the city's 153 year history. There does not appear to me to a exact copy of the two. If am in error please let me know how else it could be written. Bentley4 (talk) (Bentley4 (talk) 02:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC))

ANI redux

Hi Coren,

You might recall our discussion a few months ago about changing the way ANI works: converting it to an RfA-like or AfD-like transcluded list. It seems to me it failed mostly because people wanted to be able to watchlist one page, and see all the changes that were made to all the threads. I’ve been thinking, and I think we could actually solve that objection. Not only that, I think we can also improve on the current situation, where long threads are shunted off to subpages, which no longer show up on the watchlist. Seems win-win to me, but I’d like a bot person’s opinion.

How hard would it be to have a bot post a null edit on the new, improved ANI (I know, not really a null edit, but adding a harmless space) every time someone made an edit to any of the active subpages?

For example, EditorA posts a new thread at the bottom of ANI. ANIBot-I notices this, and creates a subpage with an appropriate header, moves the text to the subpage, and replaces the text on ANI with a transclusion of the new subpage. EditorB clicks on the [edit] button on ANI (just like now), but this takes him to the subpage, where he makes his edit (just like RfA and AfD currently). ANIBot-II notices this, and makes a null edit in the appropriate section of the main ANI page, with the edit summary “EditorB: (insert their edit summary here)”. EditorsC thru M do the same thing, and ANIBot-II does the same thing. EditorN, who watchlists ANI and not the subpage, notices all the action, leading her to go to that section to see what the fuss is about (just like now). She can see the thread on ANI (just like now). She can edit the thread by clicking [edit] (just like now). Everyone is happy.

Now, say the thread gets so long, it’s starting to make ANI difficult to load. ANIBot-III notices this, and when a subpage gets to be a certain size, it doesn’t transclude it on ANI anymore, it just replaces it with a pointer to the subpage (just like now). However, ANIBot-II still does its thing on the ANI page, so people watchlisting ANI still get their notice that there is activity on the subpage (which is one of the main reasons people disagree about the current subpage setup; the lack of notice on the main page that a subpage is active). Everyone is happy.

Meanwhile, EditorO links to the discussion on a talk page or edit summary somewhere. He links to the subpage, so the link will never break. If he makes a mistake and links to WP:ANI#2008-04-23 Admin abuse, then a year from now when EditorP runs across the link, there’s no searching through the archives looking for the thread; it’s always going to be at WP:ANI/2008-04-23 Admin abuse. Just replace the # with a /. Everyone is happy.

Once a day, or twice a day, or continuously, when ANIBot-IV notices that there has not been an edit made to a subpage in X hours, it removes the transclusion on WP:ANI, and adds a link to WP:ANI/Archive/2008-04. That’s it, no copy-paste archiving. History remains with the discussion. No one needs to know what day an article was archived to find it. No links are broken. If we want, the bot could also add archive tags to the discussion, to prevent further edits. Or, depending on what people want, it could leave the subpage unarchived, and just relist a subpage on ANI if further discussion ever occurred; i.e. threads never truly close. Or, if people want, it’s much easier to manually archive a thread early; add the archive tags to the page, remove the transclusion, and you’re done. Everyone is happy.

The only remaining weakness I see is the rather heavy reliance on bots (although you probably think of this as a plus ;) ). But if the bot goes down, ANI doesn’t seize up or anything. Discussion still goes on in the subpages, and experienced people can move new topics to subpages themselves. The only critical thing you lose when the bots go down is the update to the main ANI page. Life would go on.

Much of this is just a consolidation of stuff you’ve already worked on, or stuff that’s already been discussed. The only thing that's new (and I don’t know how feasible it is), is the ANIBot-II and ANIBot-III work. In particular, how feasible would it be for the bot to watch not only all “active” subpages, but “all” subpages, so that edits to dormant subpages can be dealt with?

What do you think? I have to run, but am very interested in what you think about the feasibility of a watchlist bot. I'll check in later. --barneca (talk) 14:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to harrass you; if you don't have time/desire to comment that's fine, just checking if maybe you didn't notice/forgot about this, and I think your archive bot is going to nuke it tomorrow. Just a brief "no comment" would let me know to bug someone else. --barneca (talk) 14:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

None of the above, actually. It's a non-trivial suggestion and I need time to examine it before I comment, which I'll only really have over the weekend. Thanks for your patience. — Coren ^(talk) 16:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

No rush at all, just didn't want your bot to archive it before you looked. I'll wait to hear from you sometime next week, perhaps. --barneca (talk) 16:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Summarising evidence

I'm sorry, it may take a while to do so. If you let me finish getting it all together first, it'll then be easier to spot what's redundant and can be cut down, but I'm trying to point out editing trends, which is difficult, and which I can only manage to do, at least in the first draft, if I'm precise and put things forwards in a way I can understand.

That said, I really don't se how I'm supposed to demonstrate complex behavioural evidence, including POV-pushing and trends in behaviour to the Arbcom in a mere 1000 words, and it's not going to shrink down substantially and still give the necessary context. Can we ignore all rules in this case, so long as I keep it focused, on-topic, and stick strictly to presenting evidence? In the end, my "Job" here is to present, to a group which it's reasonable to presume have no experience in reading scientific papers in the main, that Ullman is consistently misrepresenting studies. This basically requires a walk-through, not diffs. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:52, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Merging articles.

I was caught by your bot merging the stub articles Ashburnham and Penhurst into a new civil Parish article Ashburnham and Penhurst. Reading the comments on your page, I see I probably should have done some moving first. Question is, what should I do now? I do not want to expand the article then have it all wiped because I did not follow procedure. MortimerCat (talk) 12:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

nb Someone has since added the {{R from merge}} template. MortimerCat (talk) 17:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Semperviva

Hello Coren,

What should I do with this message? I am a representative of Semperviva.

Kind regards,

Karak1

This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Semperviva, and it appears to include a substantial copy of http://www.save-foundation.net/semperviva/home.htm. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences.

This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 14:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Help please

I made two moves before realizing that I did not use the right prodedure. One is at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=A%CE%B4_fiber&redirect=no, which I copied-cut and redirected to an existing, more elaborated page, A delta fiber, leaving behind the history page. The other is at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=McGill_pain_index&redirect=no, which I copied-cut and redirected to a page that I created McGill Pain Questionnaire, leaving behind discussion and history pages. I took care to make the required corrections to redirect links, but would like to resolve also the pages left behind. What should I do? --Robert Daoust (talk) 17:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

That requires an actual move, which now can only be done by an admin since there is something at the destination. I'll have a few minutes to handle it in a bit unless someone else notices and does so first. No worries. — Coren ^(talk) 17:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Lane Bryant

Since Lane Bryant, Inc. and Lena Himmelstein Bryant Malsin are two seperate entities, I split the page. I also added more information from other sources (such as the census). betselu 2-4-08

Aaron George

A page that I sincerely wanted to contribute on the subject of SNK Boss Syndrome was contested, do to nonsense belief that it is similar to another page Igniz. I don't understand why, for I believe that my information is completely different and somewhat original. Can someone plese help me? I truly don't understand the lingo and boundaries of wikipedia.

LonerXL (talk) 06:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Pritchardia minor

I took the tag off the article - I was using PACSOA as a source, but not the only one, and I hadn't finished. Think you'll find its ok now. Impressive stuff - nice work!! Kahuroa (talk) 11:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: 47th Fighter Squadron

I have removed the tag placed on the page from your CorenSearchBot. The information I used for my page came from the 47th Fighter Squadron Fact Sheet which is public domain information. It is likely that the page your bot cited took its imformation from the same source I did. Please let me know if you have any questions.Ndunruh (talk) 18:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright Questions

Information supplied by company, owner of all of the language supplied in topic. LAMooney (talk) 21:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)Lauren Mooney 4/28/08

SA

When you unblocked SA following my arbitration enforcement block, you promised to keep an eye on him. He has been reported at WP:AE again, see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Arbitration enforcement#ScienceApologist. GRBerry 04:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Mentor

Hi Coren. The Arbcom has passed a motion asking me to use widely available English sources (fine), or use foreign sources with the assistance of a mentor [17]. My foreign sources would be in French (mainly) and in Japanese (a bit). Do you confirm your agreement to assist me as a mentor? As the mentor is supposed to be approved by the Arbcom, do you know through which process we can officialize that? Best regards PHG (talk) 04:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Certainly. As for the process, I think just asking is quite enough. I'll set up a page where we can work and list sources as soon as they okay your selection of mentor, okay? — Coren ^(talk) 12:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Shehab

Thanks for the notification. Corrected.

Shehab (talk) 07:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

jgladsto

Entering an article about http://anscigallery.nal.usda.gov in the public domain (U.S. government web site) I don't find a suitable template Jgladsto (talk) 19:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)