User talk:CourtneyJB/sandbox

For both Taylor and Courtney: For this and future assignments, you should do correct reference citations. See WP:CQR and the brochure Editing Wikipedia that I handed out in class for instructions. If you are editing in the sandbox using the visual editor, there is a drop down textbox that makes citations easy. Also, I have the book with Krech's autobiography checked out from the library. I can give it to you so you can return it to the library and check it out under one of your own names.

For Courtney: It would not work to take a picture of a picture. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy for what types of images are permissible. I've also got some material posted on Blackboard in Wikipedia resources. I've moved it to the top so it's easy to find. Regarding Krech's name change, he talks about that in his autobiography. It would be good to add that to your article.

For Taylor: I agree there is not much information in the article, but there's a lot of information in other sources. That's why this is a good topic for your group to work on. There is a lot of information in the autobiography, so you should definitely read it.

J.R. Council (talk) 20:31, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Council's comments on Assignment 5

Hi Group 5, You have made an excellent start! If you just flesh out the outline you've developed, you'll have a very nice article. Just a couple of suggestions for now:

1. Split out theory and research from Career and make that a separate section. Replace Major contributions in outline with Theory and Research.
2. In terms of influence, Tolman had the greatest effect on Krech, but you should also talk about his work with Likert, and Lashley. Also note the influence of Gestalt psychology on his thinking.

J.R. Council (talk) 22:36, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Feedback on Assignment 6

Courtney: Great start! Thank you for bolding his name (title of article) right away in the first sentence. Also great job tagging other Wiki articles. That is always a good thing to do in the lead. One suggestion would be to try and cut out things that are less important to have in the lead. I liked the variety of aspects of his life you chose but maybe on some of them take out some details that aren't necessary and might be more appropriate in the main body of the article (mainly in the second and third paragraphs). I would consult with Dr. Council on your citation question. Overall nice job!

Taylor: Nice start! In the first sentence make sure to bold his name which is the title of your article. See Courtney's lead for that. Some of the reasons for different events in his life may be more appropriate in the main body of the article. Try to keep the lead section simple and factual where the reader gets a brief summary but not too much detail that they don't have to keep reading. Overall a good job!

For both: You both did a really good job. I like the variety and I especially liked your comments to one another. I really do think that combining your leads in some fashion will produce a good result. Take time to consider each others' comments as they are useful. Overall remember to try and keep things concise and in a neutral tone. In looking forward to Assignment 7, I would suggest working together to combine your two leads into one. I liked pieces of both. I think in terms of formatting I liked how Courtney's information was chunked. But I think there is useful information in both! Samantha.myhre (talk) 05:03, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Council's comments on Assignment 7

Hello Group 5. This is coming along very well, and will really just require a little more effort to get it into shape to publish to Wikipedia main article space. I will start with a few general comments:

1. This is important - you need to add in citations from different references. You have a number of references listed in the reference list, as well as Krech's publications. However, most of the article is based on just 2 sources. If you can find some of this information in another source, then use that one.
2. The article is much too long. You need to cut it down by about a third to a half. Here are some suggestions for doing that.

• Combine the sections on early life and family.
• Just list books and a few representative articles. If you got the list of articles from one source, as you indicate, just refer readers to that source if they want to see all his papers.
• Career and Research sections can be condensed.

In Research section, combine Student and Professional sections. Just summarize student research activities in a few sentences.

Once again, nice work! Just a little editing and it's ready. J.R. Council (talk) 17:15, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Assignment 8 decision

Hello Group 5. Your article has really come a long way. I'm going to forward it to Ian to vet for publication. However, it has some problems you'll need to fix. Most importantly, it is very wordy, and needs careful proofreading. A couple of sentences don't make sense.J.R. Council (talk) 04:32, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Feedback

Very nice work on this article. Two things I was wondering about - why separate his career in academia from that out of academia; and why separate his research as a student from his research as a professional? If the work Krech had done outside of academia was somehow different (say he had run for political office) it would make sense to separate it out, but in this case it simply means that you have to flip back and forth between the two sections to follow the narrative. When it comes to his research I'm less sure the two sections should be combined, but it seems to me like the differences are about what he worked on (rats before and after graduation) so the split in terms of career appointment seems less apt than a split by subject (and I'm not sure a split is needed at all). Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:23, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Final feedback from Dr. Council

Just one more thing:

1. No citation is listed for info in the second para.
2. As far as I can tell on a quick read, you've followed Ian's advice, but why don't you go over it one more time before publishing?

• Great job on this! Time to publish.
• On Blackboard, see the section after Assignment 9 for Ian's advice on moving the article to the main space.
  J.R. Council (talk) 20:30, 4 December 2015 (UTC)