Cpaukstis
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WetLeather
editA tag has been placed on WetLeather, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.
If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.
For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Chunky Rice 16:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
AfD nomination of WetLeather
editWetLeather, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that WetLeather satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/WetLeather and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of WetLeather during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Chunky Rice 18:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
WetLeather
editHi Cpaukstis - I just wanted to assure you that my comments on the current AfD for the WetLeather article are nothing personal. I have followed up the sources and links you gave, and have no trouble believing that you have formed an enviable community (your extremely supportive member comments on the AfD are no surprise). This is merely a debate about application of Wikipedia policy - in some ways I think the group's 'private' nature may be the reason why notability is so hard to establish per the guidelines. If the article survives the AfD, I would be happy to help out with a copyedit to try to "wikify" the article and remove any copyright concerns (for future reference, you may find the Manual of Style useful in creating enyclopedic articles). All the best, EyeSereneTALK 18:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
WetLeather
editThank you for the note, EyeSerene. I think you are spot-on about the guidelines making it very difficult to establish notability for a semi-private social group. I appreciate the offer of help with copyediting, and will welcome your contribution if the article stays. At the moment, I'm reluctant to put much more effort into it until that decision gets made. I am ignorant of how and when that happens (e.g. who is the "final authority?), but will keep monitoring the changes and comments. Cpaukstis 19:23, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- FYI, the AfD process says open for up to five days, and can be closed by anyone (although usually an administrator) once a clear consensus has formed. If insufficient discussion has taken place to establish a consensus, the AfD will generally be relisted. It's not a vote, so ideally the closing admin takes account of the weight of argument on both sides. It can be closed with either 'Keep', 'Delete', or 'No consensus' (which amounts to a keep), and sometimes there will also be additional recommendations (eg to merge the content into another relevant article, to move it to another more suitable wiki, or to turn the page into a redirect to a similar article). For deleted articles, there is always the option to take them to Deletion review if an editor believes they have been unfairly treated.
- It's too early to predict how the WetLeather AfD will go to be honest, but if you want to preserve the article content for further work etc as a precaution, you can always copy/paste it to a sub-page of your user space - this is not technically part of the encyclopedia, and will be safe from any deletion. Many editors, myself included, use sub-pages for working on articles until they are in a fit state to be added to the encyclopedia proper... partly as a precaution against drive-by AfD nominations ;) If you need a hand with setting this up, I'll be happy to help, but basically you just create the page by appending "/PAGE_NAME" to the url of your main user page (eg "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cpaukstis/sandbox" or something suitable) and clicking the Start this page link.
- Hope this helps - and I hope you decide to stay with us. Your input would be valuable in many areas; if there's anything I can help with at all, you know where my talk page is ;) EyeSereneTALK 20:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- PS I'm sure you've already noticed, but I've also left you a proper welcome message at the top of this page. Wikipedia can seem an unfriendly place when the first contact a new editor has is to find out their work is up for deletion!
File:Wetrider v4cts.jpg listed for deletion
editA file that you uploaded or altered, File:Wetrider v4cts.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 04:25, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
