Cruciblefuzz

September 2020

Hello Cruciblefuzz. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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Hello, MrOllie

Interesting. I am now wondering which topic(s) I have edited that gave that impression. I think the last one I did was for a very old movie to add a link to Woody Strode's Wikipedia entry. I can state categorically that I have no connection (financial or otherwise) either to whoever owns The Last Voyage, nor to the estate of Woody Strode. I am merely a fan of Mr. Strode's work and wished to see him and his work in the movie properly recognized.

I've done some fairly extensive clean-up work on a couple of pages about Cakewalk (the defunct program), Cakewalk, Inc. (the defunct company), and SONAR (the defunct flagship program of Cakewalk the defunct company). In this case, a financial stake would be impossible, as the original Cakewalk program has been gone for decades and the Cakewalk company (and SONAR) for 3 years. The nature of my clean-up work on Cakewalk/Cakewalk Inc./SONAR was to remove....I can't call it vandalism, because that would imply a level of cleverness and state of informedness that the perpetrator(s) seemed to lack. If I remember correctly, someone had confused the Cakewalk program of 30 years ago with the revived one by BandLab and torn out a few chunks of computer music history in what looked like an attempt to....again, I'm not even sure what they were trying to do, but the information was incorrect and I corrected it.

I was literally removing a (garbled) reference to a current software product from the history page of a similarly-named one.

I am an enthusiastic user and (quite unpaid) supporter of the freeware successor to SONAR, now named Cakewalk and now produced by a company named BandLab. Neither BandLab nor the current Cakewalk program have Wikipedia entries, or at least didn't the last time I checked. I've been toying with the idea of making one for Cakewalk but have other hobbies that take up my time.

In other words, nobody is giving me anything (directly or indirectly) to write in Wikipedia about dead actors, dead software (and the dead companies who produced it) or any other topic. I love Wikipedia and try to provide correct information when I notice that an article either has incorrect information or could be improved with more of it. I do this entirely as a volunteer.

I hope this answer shows up correctly and supplies the information you need. Also, I'm terribly interested to know exactly what activity of mine tripped the algorithm (or however such things are sniffed out).

Cruciblefuzz (talk) 13:03, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

I think I have it! It must have been a few months back when I edited some "lists of audio software" pages to update their references to "SONAR" to the new product name "Cakewalk by BandLab?" That must be it. As I said, no money or other consideration changes hands unless you count the fact that Cakewalk is now freeware. So I get the same consideration that everyone else who uses it gets: a free license. I'm truly just trying to help other musicians be aware that there is this great program they can get for free and that it's still being updated. If I were being paid to promote Cakewalk by BandLab, I would consider myself to be doing a very poor job, given the lack of Wikipedia entries for the software or its developers.

Speedy deletion nomination of Cakewalk by BandLab

Hello Cruciblefuzz,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username Stefka Bulgaria, and I thank you for your contributions.

I wanted to let you know, however, that I have tagged an article that you started, Cakewalk by BandLab, for deletion, because there's already a page about that topic at Cakewalk (sequencer). Please don't be discouraged; we appreciate your effort in creating new articles. To avoid this in the future, consider using the search function to find pages that already cover what you want to write about.

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Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 07:48, 30 January 2022 (UTC) {{Re|Stefka Bulgaria}} Hello, Stefka. Thanks for reviewing the new (long overdue, IMO) page on Cakewalk by BandLab. As I mentioned when I contested the speedy deletion, the product described at Cakewalk_(sequencer) is a very old, early music sequencing program. It is a distant ancestor of the current Cakewalk by BandLab, separated by many changes of ownership and a change in industry terminology from "sequencer" to "digital audio workstation." The Cakewalk_(sequencer) page should be revised to indicate that it refers to a historical, long-discontinued product and should only exist for historical purposes. Cheers, Erik ~~~~