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Hi, Steve. I left you this message by clicking on the word "talk" in your signature. —JerryFriedman (Talk) 14:41, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I hope it helps you keep making your valuable contributions. —JerryFriedman (Talk) 16:29, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Aceros leucocephalus

When uploading the file, I plugged the scientific name into the search field and currently the hornbill is listed with "Mindanao Wrinkled Hornbill" being the article title and main common name and "Writhed Hornbill" being a secondary name. Should the entire article be moved to Writhed Hornbill? Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 02:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes. The two taxonomic authorities to look at first, are the Howard & Moore, and then secondarily, the Clements. Generally speaking also the HBW is pretty good on taxonomy. As far as the Sibley-Monroe - forget it. There is no academic taxonomic group behind the list any longer as far as I know, and the list itself is outdated for many things - they have not published anything since about 1996 updating it. The IOC indications, are not to be considered a taxonomic source. They are mistakenly thought to be a taxonomic list, but the publication provides only suggested homologation as far as nomenclature (i.e., the English Common Names). I do have the Howard & Moore, 3° Ed., that I encoded myself into Excel, including the races. If you can figure out how to send me a note to my e-mail (I don't want my e-mail generally available, and I don't know how to send you an e-mail since I am new to the Wiki), then I can send the file to you so that you have an authoritative source to refer to.

Writhed Hornbill is certainly the primary name, and Mindanao Wrinkled Hornbill is not.--Steve Pryor (talk) 08:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Bird location

The flickr photographer of File:Lonchura atricapilla jagori -Camiguin Sur-8-3c.jpg has just told me that he photographed it on Cebu. Does that change your conclusion? Snowman (talk) 20:51, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Recent stuff on WP:Birds

Hi Steve, no urgent plans to go to Neotrops, just couldn't resist the new field-guide when I was in London recently (though it's certainly hastening my plans!) Still have to go to Kadavu in Fiji and would like to do an 'unofficial-tour' to Taveuni etc in the near-future....how about you, any plans? Aviceda talk 08:08, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Location African Bird

Hi Cuckoo-roller,

The photo you indicated was taken in Zimbabwe just southwest of Bulawayo. I hope this helps!

Neelix (talk) 11:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Are you on holiday?

I have noticed that you have not contributed to the Bird talk page recently. Have you gone away on holiday? There are more birds that need identifying ready for when you come back. Snowman (talk) 18:39, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Guaiabero

Here's one I am expanding from your neck of the woods. My older edition of Forshaw actually doesn't have too much on it, so all material welcome :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:47, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

If you had a reference discussing nesting habits or diet, that'd be mighty helpful. Also any update on validity of subspecies. It is big enough for DYK anyway. The other thing needed is to retrieve the fulltext of the journals and have a read - I am good for medical but not general bio ones. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Amazona

Do you remember this one? File:Amazona farinosa -South Lakes Wild Animal Park -England-6a.jpg. I phoned the zoo and they said they had two Mealy Amazons and one Orange-winged Amazon. The Orange-winged Amazon had clipped wings and had to be taken out of the aviary. Snowman (talk) 11:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Lazy fliers

Yes, I think the only reason the article should mention anything about a tendency to flightlessness is because it is suggested in other sources such as Britannica. As that publication is often used as a source of trusted encyclopedic information I think we should at least have a note addressing the point and discounting it as pure speculation. --Tony Wills (talk) 20:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Bare-faced Bulbul

Looks like Shymal beat me to it. Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Ibis

Please see comments for Bird 1124. Snowman (talk) 10:04, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the recommendation!

Especially since I wrote the post! I now have my own column on that blog. Glad to see some people are reading it! Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:58, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Phyl. statistics

Wiley's standard tome Phylogenetics – The Theory and Practice of Phylogenetic Systematics (1981) is good, but it is absolutely not for pleasure reading, it is getting rather old (the latest theories and methods aren't mentioned at all, but much of the statistics is the same) and I'm not sure it can be easily located anymore, though most larger libraries at universities with biological departments should have it. Easier reading is Phylogenetics (2003) by Semple and Steel and The Phylogenetic Handbook – A Practical Approach to DNA and Protein Phylogeny (latest edition 2009) by Vandamme and Salemi, but they'll still make anyone that isn't up-to-date with at least A-levels high school math struggle a bit. At a somewhat easier level (for people that are familiar with the matter but less so the methods) a friend of mine recently mentioned Phylogenetic Trees Made Easy – A How-To Manual (2007, new edition on the way) by Hall, but I have not seen this book and can't comment further on it. I'm familiar with some of the other things Hall has written, which are quite good. • Rabo³ • 13:36, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Cool journal

I found myself browsing quite a few fulltexts of issues of Mol. Phylogenet. Evol. while ferreting out articles - great mag :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:05, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

ARKive

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H&M

I don't know much about the upcoming edition, or older editions for that matter. I've always been suspicious of the great taxonomic list books as they strike me as highly conservative and out of date the minute they are published. Is it likely to perpetuate the confusion over the tanagers/sparrows/cardinals etc and lump all the Old World warblers and Old World babblers? Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:42, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Mouth markings

Hi, Steve. That was my source for the bit in the parrotfinch article, and the drawing was derived from the copyrighted images in the article. It's interesting stuff, I had no idea until I stumbled across it in my research for the article Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:00, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Genus authors

I have been listing some queries about genus authors on my talk page. User Sabine's Sunbird has been helping me from a New Zealand timezone. Sometimes I have a quires as I go through the list, when it is night there. Any comments you have might be helpful particularly as you are in European time, probably similar to UK time. Snowman (talk) 14:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I live near Rome - Greenwich +1.Steve Pryor (talk) 07:52, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Would you want to inform zoonomen of possible errors on their website? Snowman (talk) 19:34, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I have done so in the past but found Dr. Peterson to be unresponsive. So, what I do now if such occurs is send off an e-mail to Frank Gill or David Donsker since they have worked with him in the past and I haven't, but I have worked with Gill and Donsker. I found quite a few mistakes when I was vetting the subspecies IOC list. If you find anything, let me know and I will get the word out.Steve Pryor (talk) 22:29, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Birds for identification

I have run into a busy spell in real life. I plan to participation in my hobby finding bird images for the Wiki when I have a bit more time, probably in early June. Snowman (talk) 11:30, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

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July 2011 Tasmanian Native Hen article move proposal

Hi there,

I am resurrecting the discussion about moving this article and just wanted to ask if you could please give a couple of examples of what you meant when you wrote "many, many birds" (bird article names, that is) (full sentence: "The reasons above that would perorate the cause of making an exception in this case are precisely the same that have been invoked for many, many birds during this initiative").

As I haven't edited many bird articles I don't know what you meant.

Thanks very much.

Sincerely,

--TyrS 01:14, 19 November 2015 (UTC)