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Great difficulties in completing my 1st book

Hi Jim, This is Karl again. You replied to my first question I posted I guess in Teahouse a week ago on Sunday but all week I have been unable to determine very basic concepts within this Wikipedia user community now and it has become increasingly frustrating and I have deadlines upon me and I'm now freaking out. To start, I could not even reply to you. I read your answer to my inquiry on Sunday 6/11 about my book creator continually crashing on me and not always saving it and being able to easily find it again to retrieve it. You of course found it immediately and were kind enough to reply to me with a link to it asking me if that was it. But I do not know why I could not simply continue the conversation so I could answer you and tell you that, yes, that was one of the saved versions but other issues had since developed that I am in need of assistance. I swear, I have clicked all over the place and all to no avail, until finally I found myself back at your page and following your directions just clicked at the top on "New section" so I could reach out to you. Isn't there an easier way???

I still see the "conversation" so to speak, in the Teahouse from last Sunday, but as I mentioned, all I can do is view/read it; I cannot continue anything with it and I don't understand why that is. What is the point of that? There must be a way.

I explored some on your user page and got the jist of your bio and see that you have become quite the experienced Wikipedia user and have a great history of being very generous and kind in helping newbies like myself. So I definitely appreciate that but also do not want to bombard you singularly with all of my various questions and confusion, but honestly, I don't know where else to turn, so I really hope you can help me.

My questions began simply centered around the creation of my personal book I have been trying to compile as a gift in a way to family members for my big European trip in less than 2 wks so that they could have some sort of reference for all the various places I'll be going to. I want them to be able to benefit from all my hours and months of research as well.

But as I fleshed out my book, unfortunately growing it in size as I tried to include so many more new relevant topics, I found myself encountering so many other challenges along the way which have just led to more questions now than answers,and not just about the book anymore but also being a new user in general, such as how to continue that conversation for example.

One of the first things I learned last Sunday was that apparently every time I saved a new draft of my book, that counted as an "edit" so before my 1st day as a new user was done I had already reached my required minimum 10 edits to automatically move me after 4 days to the next level of user access as an autoconfirmed user instead of just new user, which was cool and definitely not what I was expecting since I thought they'd have to be "actual edits" of other pages of which I'd done 2 so far because my primary focus right now is on the completion of the book first, but I got an alert later that night indicating I had done my 10th edit. But.....now that it has been 8 days I am wondering also why my account does not show me as being autoconfirmed now. Or does it but I'm just not seeing it??

Other general user account questions I now have that I have not been able to answer on my own center around my page. I'm logged in but when I click on my user name at the top of my screen thinking it will take me to my new user page, instead the page gives a message stating that that page does not exist. Huh?? How can that be? Is that simply because I have not created it yet? It just states: "Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name. In general, this page should be created and edited by User:KarlderGrosse843." I'm logged in so why does it not recognize that I AM that user? Anyway, I think I was expecting to be able to go to my new user page and see my books I've created but every time I try to locate the books I get sent on a wild goose chase. Is there an easier, faster way to view the books? I want to know this not only for my continued editing of them but also to be able to tell my family members how they can locate it to view it themselves but right now I'm stuck because I don't know how to do that.

I also tried to create the final version as a PDF but after it went through the process it displayed a screen with only this message: "Book rendering failed There was an error while attempting to render your book.

Return to Main Page."

I am assuming now it failed because my book has now gotten much larger than it originally was and it's too big? But I read in the Book pages that the parameters are no more than 500 articles or 800 pages. Unfortunately the Book Creator does not tell me how many pages the book is, so a few days ago I took my new "master copy" that contained everything I wanted pertinent to all 10 days of our trip and instead of the original 38 pages which then became about 105, now I think it is 147! But I took that one and essentially cut it in half to have two books that I want to entitle Part 1 and Part 2 and make available for family members who are not users to freely access. When I saved a new version as Part 1 and of course with a different title so it would not override my "master complete copy", that one was able to render the book as a PDF, so I could email that if I wanted. And now it finally tells me how many pages it is. Like I said though, I just wish it would give us a running count before that step is completed as well as the reason why the rendering failed. Why would it not just inform me that the book has too many pages and must be partitioned? Regardless, as you can see from viewing my page or my books or wherever/however you locate it all, there are still several earlier drafts that will ultimately need to be deleted, but I am extremely hesitant to do that before I know for sure the final versions have been saved properly and are able to be accessed and rendered. But.....in viewing my mess of a list of the books with variations of the same name to make them different files, you should be able to see one that is a "final version". That should be my master copy that is apparently too big. And there will be a final version part 1. But I could not get the system to allow me to do the part 2 (the 2nd half of the master version) yet because I don't know how to reply to the prompt I am getting which seems rather contradictory as well as confusing. Looking at the Book Creator page now in a different tab it no longer displays the first half and showing my table of contents, etc. but the middle link: Show Book has 0 pages in parenthesis yet still displays a pop up box that says:

Click "OK" to continue with your book ("July 2017 Europe Trip") which contains 69 wiki pages. Click "Cancel" to delete it and start with an empty book.

If Show Book indicates 0 pages, how can I still be "in" this other book referenced in the line above (which is my new Part 1) that says it has 69 pages? I have not clicked cancel yet because I'm afraid it may delete it even though I have it saved. What should I do?

I know I have posed SEVERAL different questions to you in here and I'm sorry if it's been a little hard to follow, realizing that what I have just written to you was not clearly organized but that's partly because it's all kind of jumbled in my own head right now and hard to separate each question into individual inquiries, but hopefully I have not lost you along the way and you can provide the relief I am looking for with how to do all these different functions. Thank you SOOO much in advance. -Karl KarlderGrosse843 (talk) 22:00, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, KarlderGrosse843. My personal schedule and the length of your inquiry requires me to respond concisely. I am happy to elaborate, if that is needed. Sorry for my brevity.

I do not know whether you are editing with the Visual Editor or old school wikicode. I use wikicode so cannot give you useful advice on the Visual Editor. Commenting, responding and replying with wikicode is easy to me. You just click the relevant "edit" button, make your comment, and sign it with four tildes, and save. Done deal.

What I know about "book" creation in Wikipedia can be written on the back of my left hand. Nobody ever asks me about that, and I suggest the talk and help pages of that obscure function. I hope you can figure it out but I have never used that function in eight years of editing here. Good luck.

An "edit" is any change you make anywhere on Wikipedia, whether to an encyclopedia article, or to any support page or talk page. Anywhere here. Including right here. We track and record billions of edits.

The software recognizes you as a legitimate editor because you are one, but it does not recognize that you have created your own userpage, because you haven't yet. The software does not create user pages like an intelligent robot. You do. If you want one, just click that red signature of yours (which shouts "newbie"), start your userpage, type something profound or foolish, and save it. You can always change it later, as I have hundreds of times.

The "autoconfirmed" status is a run of the mill thing given to all active new accounts that are not aggressive vandals or trolls. It is routine and worthy of no serious attention, beyond a "cool".

I hope my quick response helps you a bit. I welcome discrete follow-up questions. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:56, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Article Review for draft Anita Yadav - changes made

Hey Jim! Thankyou for your reply to my previous query for draft:Anita Yadav. I have made the required changes. My name is Fran and i'v changed my username to frany90.And the draft is unpaid. Please can you tell how much time will it take to shift the draft to main search /encyclopedia?

Thank you Frany90 (talk) 22:13, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Frany90. I am very busy right now in my "off-Wikipedia" activities, which include both professional and family obligations. I will try to complete a competent review of your draft ASAP. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Frany90, if you are not being paid, why did you say above (under your previous username) that you are on a deadline? Volunteers (like me) have no deadlines. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Hey jim! Thanks for the reply again. I really appreciate your time and effort & totally understand your priorities. I shall wait. Yes I mentioned i'm on a deadline because my friend needs this article information to be up on google as soon as possible.

Thankyou soo much Jim x 

Frany90 (talk) 07:08, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Qaboos bin Said al Said

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It is not pornography.

According to wikipedia, its content is not censored. But seeing and showing Nudity is strictly strictly forbidden in my religion Islam. I do not want to see porn pictures while reading wikipedia. I have tried to turn off its images through my skin.css page. But the images are still being shown. Please see my page skin.css, edit it yourself or point out what mistake is being made by me for which the images are not being turned off.

Sinner (talk) 03:42, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Nazim Hussain Pak. Eid Mubarak to you. Sorry, but I have no expertise in programming css. If you do not search for pages about explicit sexual topics, I do not think you will see sexually explicit images here on Wikipedia. If you ever run across such an image in an unexpected place, let me know and I will look into it. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:05, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

From Nazim Hussain Pak

I am very thankful to you for your greetings. I can read a Battenburg pattern. I will be thankful if you could tell me how I can use this option while visiting pages. i.e. When I open the page then the pictures are in form of graph, and when I click at a picture, then it appears to me.

Sinner (talk) 04:18, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Nazim Hussain Pak. If you are a Muslim and do not want to see such pictures, then do not click on the pictures. You cannot expect other people to protect your personal level of Islamic observance when the tools to do so are readily available to you. From the context of the article, it should be easy for you to determine which images are acceptable to you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:35, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

From Nazim Hussain Pak

I admit that the tools are available but the problem is that I have tried my best to use these tools but I could not activate the tool on my account. If I completely turn off the pictures then I will not be able to see pictures from those articles which are not prohibited in my jurisdiction. I tried to turn off pictures from some specific articles. I tried not to make some mistake but I remained unsuccessful. This is the only problem. As an experienced wikipedian, if you turn off pictures of these articles by editing or asking someone other to edit my skin.css page, then I shall be very thankful to you for your kindness.

• Nudity
• Toplessness
• Topfreedom
• Nudity in film
• Nudity in sport
• Pornography
• Naturism

Sinner (talk) 06:04, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Nazim Hussain Pak, why is it that, as a devout Muslim, that you want to read those seven articles? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:34, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

From Nazim Hussain Pak

From your last answer, I can realize that I am teasing you. Am I right?

Sorry! If it is.

But sir these 7 articles are for example, if I start creating a complete list then number of articles will reach hundreds and if I start research the 35% content of wikipedia will be porn. I shall be very happy, if you can, turn off pictures of all the articles that relate to categories of nudity, gender and human physiology,just to me. You have not enough time to do this and I know, you will not do this. Therefore, I requested only 7 articles. I would not had disturbed you if I could turn off pictures from such pages myself. I think you will consider what I am saying. Sir please answer soon, I have been waiting for your response for a long time.

Sinner (talk) 06:54, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Ad I have told you previously, Nazim Hussain Pak, I do not have the programming expertise to help you with this. There is no porn in those articles. There is nudity but nudity is not porn. You can easily avoid reading articles with nudity. So, I am afraid that you will have to find help elsewhere. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:45, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Can you help me to remove deletion tag?

Respected sir,

I'm new user of wikipedia and I added new page on Hacker Nucleus on wikipedia and I also added sufficient references and external links but still my new page marked as speedy deletion. So, how can I remove that tag?

By the way I can add more references and external links

Hello Deadline43. I think that it is unlikely that a website operating only since March, 2017 is notable. Adding references showing significant coverage by independent, reliable sources would be helpful. More external links will not help. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

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Quemar Press Wikipedia article

Thank you for your time and effort in editing Wikipedia. The article I created, Quemar Press, is being discussed for deletion. I wonder if I simply could improve the article? I just added more independent references to Quemar Press in Mainstream Media, such as The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, The Guardian and Mainstream Literature such as that of Giramondo Publishing. Does that help solve the problem? Thank you for your advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMMNMT (talk • contribs) 21:39, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello JMMNMT. Absolutely, improving an article during a deletion debate is entirely appropriate, and the best thing you can do to save the article. It is also appropriate to mention the improvements in the debate. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:04, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Hal Sparks

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Pictures

Hi Jim,

Thanks a lot for your response! All the photos are totally legal as they belong to me and my family and are featured on my father's official website and I've shared them with many publications to date with no technical glitch ever!!

So I'll read the guidelines you kindly sent, or if you have any further thoughts, please feel free to share!!

Thanks, Happy Fourth!! Béatrice Béatrice Beer, Soprano (talk) 23:34, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Beerbeatriceadidiva. Wikipedia is much stricter about copyright than most other websites. When you say the photos are owned by you and your family, does that mean that you are the sole executor of your father's estate with complete control over your father's assets? Or is someone else the executor? Was your father the photographer? If not, then the copyrights probably belong to the photographer or their estate rather than to your father's estate. Owning a physical photographic print is not the same as owning all rights to that photo. In conclusion, it is up to you to prove in writing that you have complete rights to license these photos under a Creative Commons license. That means that anyone can use them for any purpose at any time without asking for permission. Be sure that you understand this thoroughly. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:24, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

New page question

Hi,

How does a new page that has been created become active? What's the process?

Thanks, Updater500 (talk) 04:18, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Updater500. A new page becomes active as soon as you click the "save" button. I am defining "active" as visible to anyone who searches for the name of that page. Are you talking about an encyclopedia article, a user page, an essay, a draft or what? Are you talking about visibility in a Google search? How are you defining "active"? Which specific page are you talking about? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:45, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies

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Editorial Referee Request or Intervention

Hello Cullen328

The article "Nader El-Bizri" has recently attracted the attention of some editors even though it exists since 2008 with many edits by diverse users over the years. The recent approach to the article by some users has not been done with patience and to properly look at sources.

For example since El-Bizri is an academic, the first official and reliable source would be his university formal website which is: https://www.aub.edu.lb/fas/cvsp/Pages/El-Bizri.aspx This website contains his university formal summary CV that is downloadable as PDF: https://www.aub.edu.lb/fas/cvsp/Documents/Nader%20El-Bizri%20Summary%20CV%20(Spring%202017).pdf These give the formal details as vetted by the university

Then, as an example of the prestigious awards he received, check the following Ordered Universe Project under the patronage of the AHRC in the UK: https://ordered-universe.com/2015/12/04/kuwait-honours-professor-nader-el-bizri-arabic-science-and-philosophy/ Also see this as noted on the university website: https://www.aub.edu.lb/news/2015/Pages/kfas-3.aspx

He was also ranked 59 amongst all Thought Leaders in the Arab world (and this groups not only philosophers but scientists, journalists, activists, religious authorities, poets) [http://www.thoughtleaders.world/en/arabic-2016/ If you search within the rankings and designate the subfield of philosophy, he is 3rd in the Arab world (and the Arabs have very rarely living philosophers nowadays!).

This is the tip of what you can find about him, if time is taken properly, and all the editing decisions are not made with haste or by users who have no knowledge of academia

Can anyone look into the article "Nader El-Bizri" after having searched properly and taken the time to read the sources? This is serious and if not handled properly can result in damage to the living person concerned.

I am an academician and not able to dedicate time to following wikipedia, but I am rather shocked how academics and scholars are here at the mercy of editors/users who make editorial decisions with haste and do not think about the consequences on living persons. Is there a way you can look into this or suggest it as a matter to be considered by responsible and serious editors with some knowledge of the humanities?

Thank you (AcademeEditorial (talk) 15:30, 8 July 2017 (UTC))

Canvassing much? -Roxy the dog. bark 16:32, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Roxy the dog, this would only be canvassing if AcademeEditorial knew that I am inclined to keep articles about academics or articles about Arabs, or am otherwise biased in his favor. What is your evidence for that? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:28, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

My comments were based entirely on AE's edit history. I certainly did not intend to imply any bias on your part, and I apologise for my remark. Would you like me to strike it? -Roxy the dog. bark 19:45, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Please let it stand. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:22, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Advice on Article about my father.

Hi Jim

Thanks for your response in the Tea House on my proposed article about my father (User:Robertjgray/sandbox) who died last year and your offer to discuss this.

I'm inclined to agree with your view that the lowest level of the Legion d' Honneur does not make a good case for notability although I see a number of entries in the List of foreign recipients of the Légion d'Honneur do in fact have short entries e.g. Bill_Cross with, in this case, only a single reference.

The case for notability is that my father received considerable press coverage in both the UK and Germany (as well as elsewhere) when he started the campaign to preserve the ruins of the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church in Berlin. He went on to meet the British Prime Minister, David Cameron although I was not able to find a suitable independent reference for this.

Perhaps the most obvious shortfall is that I am not independent, hence my request for guidance in the Tea House.

If you have the time I'd appreciate your opinion.

Regards Robert Gray Robertjgray (talk) 20:11, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Robertjgray. I haven't read the "considerable press coverage" that you describe. Instead, I commented only on the issue of whether the Legion of Honor award by itself confers notability. As for comparing your draft with Bill Cross, please note that this article is rated stub class, which is Wikipedia's lowest quality rating. We have 5,437,480 articles, many of which are in poor condition and should be either improved or deleted. We work on that 24/7/365. Surely you are not trying to write a low quality article subject to deletion. Instead, I suggest that you model your draft article on Good articles and Featured articles, which have gone through peer review. Yes, the article on Bill Cross has only one reference, but it is an article in a respected newspaper that is read worldwide, which goes into considerable detail about this person's long military career and entire life. What is the best such source discussing your father? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:42, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jim, Thanks for your time, it's much appreciated. No I am certainty not looking to produce a low quality article, I just used Bill Cross as an example of what got me started on this article. At the time I was unaware of its' deficiencies.

Anyway you ask for the best example of an article about my father. I'd suggest this one in Die_Welt, it's in German - with only rudimentary German I used Chrome to view it. This one in the Los Angeles Times was pretty wide spread as it was based on an Associated Press story. Robertjgray (talk) 04:55, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Robertjgray. I agree that the Die Welt source is pretty solid, after using Google Translate to read it. The Los Angeles Times source is helpful but it contains less biographical content. I suggest that you remove sources that you have written, since you have a conflict of interest. Please read WP:BLP1E since some editors may see your draft article as an example of that. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:13, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Jim. I haven't written any of the sources. You may be referring to the three books that my father wrote? I found the papers for two of them after his death and have published them. When I used the wizard to generate the references via the ISBN my name popped up as publisher. Should I remove the links or just my name?

I think I see what you mean about people notable for only one event. His first book was reviewed by the Tavistock Times (I've cited this now in the draft) and was also quoted in the Daily Mail here commenting on the Nurenberg raid in 1944 that he was involved in but I wasn't sure if that was worthy of inclusion. Any suggestions on how I might proceed? Robertjgray (talk) 06:09, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Robertjgray, self published books are rarely considered reliable, especially when written by the subject of an article and published by his son. I recommend that you build your draft article based on the highest quality reliable sources that have professional editorial control, such as Die Welt. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:30, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jim, Fair comment. I only included the books because they were there. I wasn't proposing them as source material. I presume that the right solution is to drop the statements that are not supported by the newspaper rather than removing the references to the books? I appreciate your time on this, I see I should have started on something simpler. Robertjgray (talk) 01:34, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

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Advice needed for article tagged for deletion

Hello Cullen328. I saw that you are a host at the Teahouse, so I decided to ask you directly here, just in case the Teahouse post doesn't receive a reply.

Today morning, I looked at some deletion notices for transportation articles. There were many articles about bus terminals and each one was individually tagged for deletion. So I tried to combine and merge them and created List of bus stations in Singapore to save the content. In another discussion, someone had suggested to create an entire list of bus stops (instead of individual articles), so I applied the same advice here. I modeled the article after seeing List of former bus stations in Singapore along with List of bus stations in Wales, List of Greyhound Bus stations, List of Perth bus stations, List of bus and coach stations in London. I liked the table layouts but I don't know how to create a table, so I just pasted them in a list, intending to learn the table layout and edit the article later.

However, I just checked it right now and it is tagged with a deletion banner. I was given no alert or email. Is there a way so that I can receive an update when an article I created is tagged for deletion?

I am also a bit disappointed that my article will be deleted. I spent a lot of time trying to learn how to copy within Wikipedia and I also put proper attribution. There are similar articles about bus terminals and I tried very hard to follow all the merge and attribution rules. So I don't understand what I am doing wrong. I understand that the article doesn't have a lot of references, but many articles do not have references. There are lots of articles about New Delhi which still don't have references (even though the information is correct as per my personal knowledge). However, when I took one of them and searched a bit, I did mange to find some references as well. Perhaps all it requires is a bit of time.

Is there any way I can improve the article so that it is not deleted? Should I create a table for the data and remove some of the information which is too detailed? I would be happy to receive some advice on how to proceed here. Thank you.--DreamLinker (talk) 16:03, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello, DreamLinker. That discussion is taking place at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of bus stations in Singapore, and I see that you are advocating quite effectively for keeping the article. I do not see the lack of table formatting as an obstacle to keeping the list article since that is a technical issue not a content issue, and any editor who is good at table coding can do that in a few minutes. I would add references to a few sources that discuss these bus stations as a group. Bring that to the attention of the nominator who seems willing to withdraw the AfD.

I agree that you should have been notified. Currently, that is recommended "best practice" but is not mandatory. Good luck to you. Feel free to ask questions at any time. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:30, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Cullen328. Thank you for your kind words. I have added some references and will add some more to try and show the notability. I went through a few AFD discussions and I am beginning to understand the process. Thank you once again for your help.--DreamLinker (talk) 06:03, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Advice

What would be your advice to seek knowledgable evaluations on the discussions taking place under the deletion discussion of the article "Nader El-Bizri", or proper refereeing? The user that initiated the deletion is now taking the discussion towards the merits of the Kuwait foundation and this cycle can continue endlessly. Are there users who have knowledge in the arts and humanities that can contribute to this discussion or that it is flagged to the attention of such expert editors? The webpage of the user who initiated the deletion should be looked at closely since in normal circumstances some etiquette or minimal expertise in a given area should be available to make the judgement carry weight, in this case an academic is being judged by a user who specializes in the bios of businessmen and billionaires. Unsubstantiated judgements in this regard are mere opinions, and the motives behind opinions may not be clear or reliable (AcademeEditorial (talk) 11:32, 10 July 2017 (UTC))

Hello, AcademeEditorial. Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Emphasis on anyone, as long as they comply with our policies and guidelines. Users who specialize in "bios of businessmen and billionaires" are welcome to edit articles about butterflies, movies, nuclear physics, academics or brain surgery, as long as they comply with our policies and guidelines. They can edit it they have a PhD, or they can edit if they are a high school dropout. We have no qualifications required to edit any article, except compliance with our policies and guidelines. So, when you criticize other editors on this basis, you are violating one of our most important cultural norms that have made this the world's most popular reference work. So, please stop that disruptive behavior.

I have supported keeping this article even though I am not an academic and only have a bachelor's degree. Do you want to discount my support for keeping the article because I do not have a post-graduate degree? Think that through, please. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:49, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks kindly Cullen328 for your note here. As you perhaps can see from my latest replies to more than one editor on Wikipedia, and on my newly generated user-page, I began seeing how the process of editing unfolds and how improvements are made to given articles. I guess the various discussions and edits that happened showed me that my initial concerns were hasty and alarmist. I hope that I did not offend fellow users. In fact I adopted later a different approach when I began to see how the editing and discussion unfolds. I believe this is due to the newness of my participation here. I must say that the article in question and other entries in Wikipedia can still benefit from my input, but I am feeling hesitant to make any edits just in case it affects the reception of the articles by other editors, especially since philosophy articles interest me as an educator and affect my students. I posted already some notes in discussions that highlight my motive of joining here. Thanks for pointing out the etiquette and policy aspects, this is helpful indeed. Any advice on how to take the next steps in improving the article in question? It has a couple of references that can still be improved by looking closely at the "Summary CV of El-Bizri" on the University website as a source, which is already noted in the references, and there are a couple of punctuation errors and minor typos that can be corrected, which resulted from recent edits by other experienced editors. I think there might be sources that have been used from other languages by past editors in setting his birthdate, city of birth etc. since there are also Arabic and Persian pages that report his bio and works (AcademeEditorial (talk) 21:05, 12 July 2017 (UTC))

Please comment on Talk:George Duke discography

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:George Duke discography. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello! Jim

What is the best way to nominate an article for AfD? Sinner (talk) 02:06, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Nazim Hussain Pak. Please read and study WP:AFD, and follow the step-by-step instructions carefully. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:26, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the page called "Daniel Hasidim"

Hello sir

Nice to meet you

I think you would agree with me that the page meets Wikipedia regulations.

If you like, I can send you other examples of Wikipedia pages that are written in the same way.

For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Freedom_Alliance

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dani1587 (talk • contribs) 01:37, 17 July 2017 (UTC) 

Hello Dani1587. The proper place to discuss this article at this time is at the deletion debate. If the article is kept, we can discuss it here later. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:34, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Daniel Hasidim sham profile

Hello Jim,

Nice to e-meet you.

I see you offered to disucss the Daniel Hasidim page.

Here I am :-)

My nickname among my close friends is Sim.

How shall we progress?Weknowall1968 (talk) 22:05, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Weknowall1968. The proper place to discuss this article at this time is at the deletion debate. If the article is kept, we can discuss it here later. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:35, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Questions I dare not ask at your RfA

1. Do you think your RfA should be deleted per WP:CSD#G11?
2. You portray yourself as a relatively kind person, as do other editors. Yet, you would A7 an obviously notable article about Dexter? Wouldn't that be a WP:BLA violation? I mean, if you think Dexter is extremely cute, I'm sure he is and I'm sure Dexter would modestly agree with you. As a future administrator, you should know that BLA and Truth trump CSD policy. Did you even notify Dexter of your intentions? Please explain yourself or I'll have to report you to the SPCA.

--Bbb23 (talk) 15:50, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for befuddling me, Bbb23. It is just what I need 24 hours into this process. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:45, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Not sure if you're serious, but in case you are, it was humor that I felt wouldn't necessarily work well at an RfA, which is such a serious process. If you are truly befuddled, what exactly befuddles you, or what about my special brand of humor don't you get?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:54, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Gotcha, Bbb23. I have befuddled you. Thank you for brightening my morning (I live in California). Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:30, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

--Bbb23 (talk) 19:22, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

I was just thinking of you, and feeling grateful. You are in my thoughts, not just when the going gets tough, but also when the tough gets going. Thanks pal. DN (talk) 20:27, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

How nice of you to stop by, DN. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:43, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Wonderful you

The dearest Liver & White Boston Terrier of all

Jim, I am so, so pleased you are finally running for RfA. The picture of your lovely doggie was my wallpaper for ages. Just a lovely dear sitting all pretty with his wee little paws like that. Plus, I love what you and your wife have done with your lives, and all the help you have been to people. Just wonderful! (Keep asking 'why' things are the way they are and then you may hit many birds with one stone.) You are what is right with the world. Thank you! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:54, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much, Anna Frodesiak. This is a time of amazement and gratitude for me. I will say more when the process is over. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 14:53, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Interlanguage and red links--from teahouse

Hi, I'm forwarding this to here because it seemed like nobody wanted to answer it in the teahouse, and you were the person recommended to me in that initial talk page message. My question might just be a little too granular. . . . Anyway, I've been trying to be more thorough in my checking of policy before making editorial decisions as I've come to realize just how much policy there is, and something that's been bugging me is the usage is of Template:Interlanguage link vs Template:Interlanguage Link (pardon if formatting is messy I can't preview bc the teahouse is weird). The Interlanguage links help page says that "It is sometimes possible to combine the two approaches" of leaving the English redlink with the parenthetical ILL after it, but I can't imagine a reason why this approach would ever be impossible. I mostly just want to know what the preferred option is, because up till now I've been trying to avoid redlinks and hence linking to people like Pierpaolo Vargiu in such a way that the redlink isn't visible but now that I'm seeing ILL templates left and right I'm not sure if this is right. Should I be using Pierpaolo Vargiu in such situations? Mehmuffin (talk) 14:46, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

(watching:) what you did for the person is fine, - sorry, I don't understand the rest of the question. "ill" is just a shortcut (redirect) to "interlanguage link". I use the shortcut. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Cristiano Ronaldo

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Cristiano Ronaldo. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

You've just set a record

Cullen's RfA in progress

In the very least, at least temporarily. I don't want to jinx anything, but the most number of support votes ever in an unopposed RfA was Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ealdgyth, with 250 in support (with two neutrals). About an hour ago, you surpassed that, currently sitting at 256 supports. For all RfAs, that's now tied for the 3rd most ever. No matter the final outcome, this is nothing short of historic. Bravo! --Hammersoft (talk) 20:08, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Hammersoft. I will comment on all of this when it is over. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:20, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

• Quite wise, and I certainly wouldn't expect you to comment now. I just wanted you to be aware of it, in case you were not. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:25, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

• Congratulations at breaking an all time record. Obviously I can't suppress my own pride at being the nominator (Ritchie333 too, whose RfA I also nominated). This is one RfA where the 'crats could easily IAR and make an early close. Any oppose votes that come now will be blatant blind bad faith. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:46, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Don't make me have to hat this! You're going to jinx it. We've all see this before. A candidate gets a scarce 265 !votes and then suddenly, a storm of opposes and it all goes pear-shaped. He's not out of the woods yet! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:25, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm just happy to have been part of a team that's put forward three really good admin candidates in July. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:32, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Hooray!

First admin candidate EVER to receive 300 supports! Congrats, so very well deserved! --MelanieN (talk) 19:56, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, MelanieN. I will have my press agent issue an official statement tomorrow. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:03, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

As I recall, in ancient Greece if a sysop was too popular, he might be voted off the island for a time. Perhaps that should be applied here. I propose that Cullen be blocked for ten years at the same moment he is made an admin. EEng 20:08, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

No problem, EEng. They need help over at Simple English Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:51, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

And I'll propose that Cullen would drive 40 f*cking hours in this road lol. :D KGirl ^{(Wanna chat?)} 20:18, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Try driving from Silicon Valley to the Napa Valley after eight hours of operating power tools, KGirlTrucker81. That is enough to make anyone curse the ghost of Henry Ford. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:59, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Well, sure that's an hour of driving but won't you try driving from Orlando via this turnpike to Billings via this interstate that is endless enough to make Dakota Fanning crazy lol :P KGirl ^{(Wanna chat?)} 21:42, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

One hour! LOLOL! Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:56, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

You know me that I'm a sarcastic autie making you laughing your a$$ off right? ;D KGirl ^{(Wanna chat?)} 01:39, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

What a coincidence: I'm a sarcastic uncle. EEng 01:52, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Being the officially designated killjoy...

Respice post te! Hominem te esse memento! Memento mori. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:20, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Will you please get that keyboard fixed? EEng 20:21, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Ad Orientem, for reminding me how much Latin I have forgotten since my failed attempt to learn Latin and German simultaneously in high school. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:46, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Semper ubi sub ubi y'all. Drmies (talk) 21:44, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

^{Drmies learned his Latin in SOUTHERN Italy. --MelanieN (talk) 02:01, 23 July 2017 (UTC)}

Phew!

I guess the rumour was false. I'd heard that if anyone got over 300 votes, it would tear a hole in the Wikipedia-time continuum, and we'd all get sucked into the encyclopedia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:23, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

We have been, Anna Frodesiak. We have been. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:54, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:56, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

• Technically it's happened before, but the final support tally at the time of withdrawal was 299. Kurtis ^(talk) 03:27, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for running for adminship. Wow, an RfA that is actually pleasant, how nice! North America1000 07:25, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Northamerica1000. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:16, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

300??

Holy moly Cullen. You are doing quite well--sorry that I attracted the single oppose vote. Drmies (talk) 21:43, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

No problem at all, Drmies. Thanks for dropping by. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:12, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

• WP:300... never thought I'd see the day. Congratulations! Kurtis ^(talk) 03:19, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I did. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:58, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

...Okay, so did I. 😏 But it's still mildly exciting to see someone garner such a high support tally. Kurtis ^(talk) 11:31, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Of course everyone did it! 😊 KGirl ^{(Wanna chat?)} 13:29, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

An RfA of historic proportions. Congratulations, and best of luck in all that you'll do here! Mz7 (talk) 16:01, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Your request for adminship

Hi Cullen328, I have closed your request for adminship as successful. Congratulations for both your successful nomination and for being the first official WP:300 adminship candidacy; your level of community support is staggeringly impressive. As always, the administrators' reading list is worth reading and the new admin help pages are most certainly available if you feel that you might require some practice with the tools in a safe environment prior to applying them elsewhere on the project. Good luck! Acalamari 16:31, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Acalamari. I am truly honored. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:35, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

What else can I say. Thank you very much for agreeing to stand and getting the highest support tally of all time. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:43, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

CONGRATULATIONS !

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:33, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes congratulations! Wikipedia:Administrators' guide.--Moxy (talk) 16:45, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Welcome to the mop corps, soldier. As you can tell by the barracks we are standing in, this is no cushy place for civilians to be. We've got lots of cleaning to do, soldier, and you're the newest recruit here on the team that does it. I don't know but I've been told, scrubbing latrines gets mighty old. Before you practice your mop-fu skills, though, have a cup of coffee for a much needed caffeine kick. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 21:40, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

FWIW K6ka, I can tell you've never been a soldier, because soldiers capitalize Soldier. TimothyJosephWood 22:00, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Or you're Canadian, in which case I can understand the lowercase. (Just joking. The Canadian military have been some of the most delightful people to work with in the times I've had the opportunity.) TimothyJosephWood 22:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

@Timothyjosephwood: There's truth to that, actually. I was in air cadets, but air cadets are not members of the armed forces. So technically I've always been a civilian. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 22:26, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Have a drink

Ad Orientem (talk) has bought you a whisky! Message received at 18:39, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I figured you might need a stiff drink after such a contentious and stressful RfA. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:39, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

I need a stiff drink or two, and a little Wikipedia editing, to help me roll along in the 21st century. And my ever patient wife, ChesPal. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:36, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations Jim sir. I Have some requests to you !

Hello Cullen ! If you can remember I have asked a question from you at RfA and even before you replied I have voted strong support. I always believed you are a great contributor and a blessing to the Wikipedia. I hope you will be the best sysop too ! I had a request, can you please devote some of your time at Administrator notice board especially the BLP one, it is a very serious issue. If you have got some time would you please entertain the request at WP:PERM, especially the New page reviewers(NPP) one, as there are more than 16000 New page yet to be review. Requesting you to specially give tools to the good people who come to request NPP rights as many articles at the New pages feeds and backlog are yet to be reviewed. I had cleared some 300 plus pages since I got NPP rights ,I would have loved to clear entire backlog at NPP ,but as I use a small Android device to edit Wikipedia, it is quite difficult

More reviewers can help !

Anoptimistix Let's Talk 04:41, 24 July 2017 (UTC) Anoptimistix Let's Talk 04:41, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Anoptimistix. I am new to the role of adminisrator and need to learn how to use the tools slowly and carefully. Just like you, I do most of my editing on a small Android device although I have access to a Windows desktop computer when I need it. I share your concern about the problems with NPP and AFC, and will be advocating for reasonable solutions, once I understand all of the issues better. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:32, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Very annoying

You ran for admin and I didn't even notice? I blame my wikibreak, but it really is annoying. Belated strong support! Bishonen | talk 01:10, 24 July 2017 (UTC).

Don't feel bad, Bishonen. It ended well. I was quite peeved, however, that Bishzilla was silent the whole week. What is up with that?Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:52, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

'Zilla on Jurassic break, regret! Congratulations little Cullen! [Bishzilla sticks the little Cullen firmly in her pocket.] bishzilla _ROARR!! 09:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC).