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API down

The API has been down at least 6 hours. I checked the bot edits and notice a fair number are being left with archivedate's of 1970 which I assume are links not in the DB and something happening due to the API being unavailable. If that is wrong sorry please start again. Some examples: [1][2][3][4][5][6] -- GreenC 03:56, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

The API is back up and I've re-enabled the bot. It resulted in a bit of damage. Some of it WaybackMedic is already setup to fix but the deleted links will be a challenge as it involves revisions. Is there a way the bot can do a check of the API on a regular basis and shut down if the API is inoperable? What I do is retrieve a API result with known content and abort if it's blank or wrong, similar to the stop button technology but monitoring the health of the API. - GreenC 14:52, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Something else is going on because the bot is still leaving many empty archiveurl's and archivedate's but the API is working. Maybe it's cached data? Example from a few minute ago. Also I am unable to shut the bot down the Run page is not working. -- GreenC 15:13, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Oh wait, the API is still down, my mistake I was looking at cached data. Good opportunity to test for API outage :) -- GreenC 15:30, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

So a preliminary assessment of what has now happened is I may have inadvertently disabled the run page when pushing a configuaration to the bot. I have a local setup that ignores the run page to allow me to test with and I may have accidentally copied that configuration into the production servers. I have blocked the bot per these issues. Secondly, not confirmed yet, is that the API outage has resulted in corrupted DB entries and now need to be fixed before the bot can be allowed to run again.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:48, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

I am confirming that I inadvertently disabled the run page when I pushed updates to the production nodes. I'm restoring the run page configuration now.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:23, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

It looks like there's a bigger problem going on here. It looks like it's suffering from some kind of failure. This suggests the bot should not have actioned that URL yet, and that it never attempted to obtain an archive URL for it yet. So this should not have even been considered dead yet.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:41, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

The bot cannot be allowed to run at all in this condition. Something is clearly wrong here, but I don't see what. I'll have to take a closer look later. The bot is entirely shut down at the moment.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:49, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

The oldest error I could find is List of Story of Seasons video games at around 7pm EST (12:07 am, 14 January 2017, GMT). This coincides with when I noticed the API went down .. a few hours later but might be explained by IABot batch. Fortunately it slowed down due to API timeouts and only edited around 125 articles, so it's not catastrophic. I'll make a list of the articles , if you need a list of URLs contained for clearing the DB let me know. -- GreenC 18:12, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

I checked random DB entries and they're fine. Something bigger clearly happened when the API went down. The bot seemed to be heading down a catastrophic failure. If you look at my reply above, you'll note I pointed to a URL in the DB that was supposedly affected, except the information there is all normal. The bot should not have acted on the assumption the URL is dead, and the bot should not have add an archive URL to that cite template, especially since it hasn't bothered to check and confirm the presence of an archive snapshot, hence the status unknown.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:17, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Yeah I don't know. Might be easy to check for an empty JSON record (0-length response from the API) and abort. I have the list of articles it's 135. Can I have your permission to revert IABot changes in those? --GreenC 18:26, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead and give me that list. I want to try an replicate the failure, and build a safety to prevent it correct it.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:28, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

• @Green Cardamom: So, the bot has definitely been able to detect these failures, and has likely flooded the folks over at IA with lots of error emails from the bot. Still investigating the cause of the other bot failure as a result of this.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 03:20, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

I guess they got the message(s) the API is back. -- GreenC 16:02, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

I was able to replicate the issue while the API was out, and found several issues in several key functions that could cause this is issue to arise. They have all been repaired in v1.3.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 03:51, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorting by column

Hello. Sorting by column does not work in AdminStats. Can you fix this? Some discussions https://github.com/x-tools/xtools/pull/102 , https://github.com/tbertels/xtools/pull/1 . --— Green Zero обг 21:36, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm not very involved in xTools at current, and it's undergoing a rewrite.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:29, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Gmane vs InternetArchiveBot

In this edit, InternetArchiveBot (IAB) added a link to a page from Gmane that was cached by the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine (WM) in December 2016. That caching was performed by WM after Gmane lost much of its content, which happened around August 2016. As such, the WM-archived page shows "NOT FOUND" in place of the "From", "Subject", "Newsgroups", "Date" and content fields. This makes it effectively useless as a reference.

This is a tricky issue to resolve, but one approach might be to have IAB only link to WM-hosted archives of Gmane pages if one or both of the following two conditions are met:

• IAB scrapes the contents and finds the "From", "Subject", "Newsgroups", "Date" and content fields all to be something other than "NOT FOUND"; or

• the WM-hosted page was archived by WM on or after the access-date in the reference, and before August 2016.

Thanks for reading this, and thanks for creating/maintaining IAB! zazpot (talk) 14:00, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

P.S. Please use Template:Reply to or similar to notify me if you reply here, as I am not watching your talk page. Thanks again! zazpot (talk) 01:43, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

@Zazpot: Adding site specific detection mechanism is something I'm not inclined to do as it over complicates the bot. InternetArchiveBot, is by design, meant to be a global bot, aka handle all sites on all wikis, using a consistent general algorithm that fits all. As such adding an algorithm to scrape the site requires a significant rewrite, and effort:benefit ratio is unfortunately very high, and makes this a task not worth doing. On a side note, IABot does add the snapshot of the archive that is closest to the initial access date. Sorry.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:59, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

This is actually something WaybackMedic could do (on enwiki) since it processes every article edited by IABot and it already does tons of web scraping so what's a little more. The issue here is with a soft 404. In this case article.gmane.org has over 300 instances on enwiki so it's not small in absolute terms, but tiny in relative terms. I haven't thought through the best way to deal with soft 404's (that are known and reported) but maybe could use this as a test case. It's complicated by the need to check the timestamp (pre-August) and/or page content. -- GreenC 18:19, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Michael Greger#Request for comments on SBM source and WP:ANRFC

Hi Cyberpower678. Thank you for your very detailed close of the contentious RfC Talk:Michael Greger#Request for comments on SBM source! I hope that you continue closing discussions at WP:ANRFC if you have the time and inclination. WP:ANRFC needs closers who are willing to write meticulous closes of RfCs that are very difficult to close. Thank you again! Cunard (talk) 05:56, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll work on knocking one out every few days. I'm looking at the next one already.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:28, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll work on knocking one out every few days Er, you do know what "knock one out" means? Disgusting..... Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:44, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Erm...I do now. That wasn't what I meant though. :/—CYBERPOWER (Around) 13:16, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Front end on X tools

The front end on X tools' appears to go to the wrong place. If I browse to http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/ and type in my username, I get redirected to http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Ritchie333&project=en.wikipedia.org which is blank. There's another link, http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/index.php?name=Ritchie333&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia which does work. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:44, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Both links seem work and go to the same page.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 00:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Cyberbot warning section headers

Hi. Cyberbot appears to be inserting text intended for the edit summary into section headers when placing warnings on non-IP user talk pages (example). --Paul_012 (talk) 20:47, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

That's funny, I'm not sure if that's a framework issue, or Cyberbot's. I'll have to investigate.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 00:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

RfX Report Problem

As a heads up, for some reason Cyberbot cleared the entire page of the RfX Report about 3 hours ago. Also, congratulations on the successful RfA! Inks.LWC (talk) 23:56, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

I gave it a kick. If this happens again, you can simply transclude and RfA that's been closed long enough until the bot updates the page and remove it again. That will fix your problem. Thanks for the congrats.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 00:24, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Good to know; I thought about doing that, but I was worried there might be a deeper problem and didn't want to do that without knowing that I wouldn't be making something worse. Inks.LWC (talk) 00:27, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

It's Wikipedia, the worst that happens is the bot some how completely throws some junk into the page which can be reverted. The bot can easily be disabled by most users using the run page.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 00:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Embedded dead link templates

See this cite. Caused by a {{dead link}} embedded inside a cite template. I can't recall if this is a known and/or fixed problem. I'll need to add this to WM to correct, and go back and discover the old ones. -- GreenC 19:06, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot I already reported this and will follow up there. -- GreenC 00:20, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

It's likely because the template isn't listed in the config page. If it's not listed, it won't get acknowledged.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 00:21, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes that's it, they are all rare templates like cite court. WM will now catch them and the old ones are fixed. -- GreenC 01:17, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot bug

I went to IABOT Management Interface, entered my e-mail, and created an account. Then I was on the Report a bug page. At this point I was faced with more gobbledygook regarding Phabricator and false positives and it is more than I can bear for the problem I am trying to report, so I am reporting it here. Please see my comments at Talk:Chico Unified School District#External links modified. Reiterated here, you should not supply archive URLs for templates {{URL}} and {{Official website}} and when the text explaining an external link indicates it's something along the lines of a current official page. You should supply archive URLs only for fact references. One principle that might be right most of the time is, don't find archive URLs outside of <ref>s. Please reply here and ping me.—Anomalocaris (talk) 08:19, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: The report a bug page is clearly written. Just follow the instructions, and you'll be golden. As for the bug you reported, there's an update in progress that will have the bot disregard URLs inside templates. As for handling non-references, there's consensus to do so, so I'm not going to disable non-reference checking.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 01:59, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DASL51984

Keeps removing parts of the discussion on the talk for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DASL51984 without any sort of consultation or explanation. As far as I can gather they're not an admin or anything official, just some user. -124.188.232.125 (talk) 01:37, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Andrew Davidson and RfA - Topic ban proposal

I heavily supported your recent RfA but in closing this ANI that hadn't even run for 24 hours to take in the times zones of some of us, is IMO an abuse of your admin privilege. I won't wheel war with you, but I will ask you to unclose it. I have plenty to say on the matter which may sway the consensus. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:20, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry it was not intended as an abuse. It looked like the overwhelming level of opposition allowed for closing it as WP:SNOW as acceptable. I'll revert my close.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 02:22, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

For the record, I don't think a SNOW close for a proposal that is obviously going nowhere fast, and where the OP has recanted the proposal and called it a mistake on his talk page, is in any way improper. In fact that sounds exactly like the sort of situation where a responsible admin should step in and shut it down. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:27, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Both a good close and a good self-revert. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 06:39, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Bot archiving of RfPP

Hasn't been active since midnight, server time: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&action=history Samsara (talk) 07:24, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

I was going to ask about this too. Is User:cyberbot I taking a nap? We miss cute his little clerkly self. --MelanieN (talk) 22:22, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Looking at the bot's userpage, and the RfX Reporter, it appears to have gone down entirely, but the execution node itself appears to still be functional. I'll reboot it in a sec.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 01:07, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

So the NFS maintenance ended up completely screwing up the exec node. File permissions were and a whole bunch of bot files got deleted. I have restored them from my backup and the bot is booting back up.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 01:43, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm SO glad you know how to do this stuff! --MelanieN (talk) 04:20, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Might be needed again? Samsara (talk) 11:41, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Cyberbot II malfunctioning

The Boyle's law article history shows an interesting revision by the bot. It adds the padlock and then removes it 15 minutes later. The page is still protected so it seems like the bot is malfunctioning. The task has been switched off so you can take a look at it. --Majora (talk) 19:38, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Cyberpower678 actually knows about this. The run was facilitated by someone enabling the bot when they shouldn't have. Maybe Cyberpower678 can adjust the protections as they see fit (congrats btw). -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 19:54, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Whoops. My bad. Perhaps he can just turn up the protection to full now that he has that ability . --Majora (talk) 20:01, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Not a bad at all... one of the more obscure things an admin might know about. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 20:06, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Bot_for_category_history_merges

First task for Cyberbot III? 103.6.159.72 (talk) 12:24, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Cydebot is already an adminbot. The botop should be in charge of that task.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:21, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Dead link bot request

Hello, I was wondering if you could please help with the dead links on List of WWE United States Champions article. There are quite a few dead links that need archived versions, and I would appreciate it if you could help out with a bot. Thanks. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:15, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Right now, the bot works where it chooses to, but I'm working on letting users summon the bot elsewhere.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:28, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

How did you make those status bars on your user page?

Hi, I was just wondering how you made those energy and stress meters on your user page. If you could please tell me how to make those, that would be great! Thanks! —Editor 357 ^{(Talk • Contributions)} 01:29, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

{{Wstress3d}} and {{Energy meter}} will get you what you need.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:34, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Murdeshwar

Respected Sir, I saw on Wikipedia Murudeshwara page that you had earlier participated in a discussion about my hometown Murdeshwar. I request you to revisit the page and provide your expert comments about my new posting on the talk page of Murdeshwar. I am new to Wikipedia and do not know how to contact members for getting help. It is my earnest request to all experienced members of Wikipedia to help me in getting back the correct spelling of my home town. In my humble opinion, a mistake made by the first author should not be allowed to carry forward. Please take some time out of your busy schedule and help us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Murudeshwara — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.218.204.92 (talk) 23:22, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry I had no such participation.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 13:16, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Cyberbot I not clerking on WP:CHUS

Cyberbot I (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) doesn't seem to be clerking WP:CHUS anymore, could you investigate this? Thanks, —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 16:16, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

The Labs ops did some sort of file system migration and completely destroyed the cyberbot-exec-01 node where the bot lived on. I thought I had fixed all of the damage, but apparently I missed some core configuration files.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:55, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Admin statistics

The box on my userpage hasn't updated in the last few days. Can you fix it? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:56, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

I've been looking at it for a bit, but I'm not sure what's going on.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:20, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

@Bbb23: This is a consequence of the labs maintenance that was done on the 18th. They ended up massacring the instance Cyberbot lives on and caused quite a bit of damage. I thought I fixed it a few days ago, but I missed some things which I have now fixed. Your stats will update again on the usual time.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:57, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I'll check the numbers tomorrow.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:00, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

BLP concern

Hi I would like to ask for protecting one website on wiki. It is now being vandaled so many times for political reasons. It is the biography page of Andrej Danko , slovak politician here on wiki. Some trolls are posting there some not truthful info and then some of the newspaper post it on facebook(they are writing there that he can not speak slovak - his mother tongue and such things). It is used as a political tool. You can see it on the pages history. I suggest to return the page to the state of 4 th Januray 20.58 which is I think neutral and the lock it for some time. I cannot look at it how wikipedia is being misused. All the best! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marekt023 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cyberpower678 and congratulations on your recent successful request for adminship. I'm a little concerned that you seem to be simply dismissing this BLP concern that was posted to your talk page (presumably directed to you because your bot works on the request for page protection pages). Could you please take a look into this issue a bit further? The good faith user provided a page name (Andrej Danko), new users might not know how to use wikilinks. Thanks! –xeno^talk 16:57, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Oh whoops. It is a bit unusual that a user's first edit would be to my talk page regarding this issue though. BLP isn't much of a strong point of mine, but I'll take a look.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:59, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

I've PC protected the page. That should keep the disruptive editing under control.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:07, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Now that you're an admin you can expect all kinds of random posts looking for help. Best to look into them to see if there are legitimate concerns. –xeno^talk 17:22, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Indeed.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:23, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Bots

Um I was wondering if you could help me make a bot that will automatically change inappropriate edits (swearing, inappropriate links, etcétera) but didn't change edits except for listed reasons below a certain point on a page. Please 🤔🤔🤔 Me.Spoofie (talk) 20:18, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

I think you need a little more experience on Wikipedia first before you start operating bots.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:49, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Category:Requests for unblock

Hi, a message on this page states "This table is out of date. Contact User talk:Cyberpower678.". Just Chilling (talk) 00:44, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Has now updated. Just Chilling (talk) 02:10, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Sometimes it gets stuck. Glad to see it fixed itself.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:49, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Four new RfPP response codes

Given that there's been enough time for discussion now (and none arising), would you be so kind as to add the new RfPP codes coll, co, edre and er as valid responses for the bot? Many thanks, Samsara (talk) 22:23, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Bumping this. Haven't had a chance to add the codes yet.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:50, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Getting InternetArchiveBot on Danish Wikipedia?

Hi Cyberpower, I've just discovered your amazing link-resurrecting bot, and can see that you've got it running on Swedish Wikipedia as well. Awesome! What would it take for us to get it running on Danish Wikipedia as well? We sure could use an archiving bot to combat rampant link rot, the sooner the better! Regards --Metalindustrien (talk) 21:19, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Well, the bot will need some wiki specific add-ons to run correctly, and before that, needs a consensus from the community. Start a discussion, and point me to it, and advertise it so the community can give their input on such a bot.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:32, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I've announced the proposal on the Village Pump and so far it seems that the entire community is 100% behind getting InternetArchiveBot to DAWP :-) --Metalindustrien (talk) 21:12, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

There seems to be an overwhelming consensus in favor of getting InternetArchiveBot online on Danish Wikipedia ASAP. What is the next step that we should take? --Metalindustrien (talk) 11:43, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot and Wayback Machine bot

Hi. I just made a proposal on nowiki to configure InternetArchiveBot there. While researching the status on the bot on svwiki I came across the discussion about proactive archiving on the bottom of this thread, where you write that "I have inquired regarding running their bot (Wayback Machine's) on the Swedish Wikipedia. I'm still waiting to hear back." Did they ever get back to you, and do you know if any other wikipedia than the English is archived proactively at the moment? – Danmichaelo (talk) 18:34, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes, to answer your questions, the Wayback bot scans all recent changes feeds of all languages and records newly adding URLs into the Wayback Machine. This is according to the Executive Director of the Wayback Machine. I will keep an eye on your proposal. I'm starting to get requests from other wikis too. It's certainly great to hear that InternetArchiveBot is being sought after globally. :-)—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:48, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Great to hear that Wayback monitors all recent changes feeds! The nowiki proposal should probably be left for some days, but if it succeeds, what are the next steps? Are there still issues to be sorted out before testing on wikis other than enwiki? – Danmichaelo (talk) 22:25, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm still working on version 1.3 which will be the version that will even begin to go global. There are still some bugs to fix, archives to add, and this needs to be finished and translated too before moving forward.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:34, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok, good to know! Let me know if there's some way I can contribute (with coding or translation). – Danmichaelo (talk) 19:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

The coding is complex, but I will need help translating stuff when I'm ready.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 20:35, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot & Flash-based websites

InternetArchiveBot is inappropriately modifying article's links to flash-based websites, and redirecting them to decade-old precedent pages at web.archive.org. e.g. Qiu Xiaolong

You've given me very little context here, so if the site is dead it will direct them to archives.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 18:38, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Market Drayton

Hello

Sorry if this isn't the correct way to contact you. I see you have tried to sort out the dispute on the Market Drayton page. Can I ask that you look at restoring it to a version that has by enlarge been active for over 10 years I refer to the musicians article in particular that has been removed in the last week. While I accept that the people listed have not received world wide acclaim they are important to the local and wider local history of the town. The reason for removal has been given as it is promotional yet this cannot be the case as at least 3 of the artists mentioned have not been active for over 20 years some 35 or more and have nothing to promote. I am a casual editor and would only edit articles I have knowledge of. As someone who is clearly an expert and respected editor I would value your input. On my part should you decide not to restore the article while I would be frustrated/disappointed I will not make further edits on that page. Thanks for your help Kev inr (talk) 14:33, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

My only involvement on that article was to stop the disruptive editing going on there. This is clearly a content dispute between you and User:Davey2010. I suggest you discuss with him on Talk:Market Drayton and try not to edit war on the article. Edit warring can result in blocking.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:55, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Just to add - I removed the external links and Drmies had removed the entire musician section,

Kev inr - you're not a casual editor because you work for the band and I've found stuff that states this so if I were you my friend I would give up trying to promote your band, There's plenty of ways to promote a band and this place isn't one of them, Thanks. –Davey2010^Talk 15:05, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

It is correct that I have an archive of the bands material on the internet yet I do not work for them as your investigations should of found the band ceased to exist in 1982. The band you are talking about are only one of a number of artists mentioned in the section, I really don't understand what your problem is but there are far more important things in life so I will certainly not be entering an editing war I will move on and let you continue to police things you clearly know nothing about, and just for the record I am not your "friend" Kev inr (talk) 15:22, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

My problem is with you constantly adding a non notable band to the article - The section and links should never have been there in the first place, In short not everything related to Market Drayton needs to be in the article especially when it's not notable,

Thank you my friend, Happy editing. –Davey2010^Talk 15:36, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Guys, please take it to the article talk page.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:37, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

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13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for your bot message. I have gone through to hopefully correct the formatting of my request to (temporary) semi-protect the page article for "Johnson Amendment".

LaEremita (talk) 01:06, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Error/bug by Cyberbot at WP:RFPP/Rolling archive

The bot archived more fulfilled and declined requests. However, it also removed most of past requests. What can be done about it? --George Ho (talk) 19:57, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

I have no idea what is causing that. I'll restart the bot.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Cyberbot message confusing

Hallo, I've just noticed the Cyberbot message at User_talk:Michael_Glenwood#Issuing_level_1_warning_about_removing_AfD_template_from_articles_before_the_discussion_is_complete._.28Peachy_2.0_.28alpha_8.29.29.

Could I suggest that the section heading doesn't need to have a link to Peachy. Even as an experienced editor, I saw that heading, thought "What on earth...?", clicked on the link and was not enlightened. The editor who has removed an AfD template (whether a newbie or a vandal) doesn't need to know what software was used to create the warning, and it's just confusing. If you need to include it in the message, then please bury it near the end of the text, with some wording like "Cyberbot was using the (Peachy 2.0 (alpha 8)) software", perhaps in small font. Thanks. PamD 09:12, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

In fact most level 1 warning templates only include the month and year, and not the text "Issuing level 1 warning". Perhaps this "First offence" template warning should be altogether gentler? PamD 09:28, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

What you are looking at is a bug. That text is supposed to go in the edit summary.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Delighted to hear that! Good luck in getting it debugged ASAP. Thanks. PamD 14:59, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

"Revision history statistics"

I think you were involved with these pages. They have just been replaced with some German thing which seems to have less useful info. Is this permanent? Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 17:16, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

No it is not. xTools is being rewritten.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Yours is back, maybe better? Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 18:57, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Bot Bug

Some of the GA stuff nominated in the book went to Unassessed without being properly checked. All of them should be classified as GA and the overall book as well, instead of Start class. Since this is nominated for Good topic and therefore everything must be GA. I addressed something that might be related to the bot giving the article the wrong classification. Despite this I would like some feedback. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

• link showing what happens: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Book_talk:Unorthodox_Jukebox&diff=763036859&oldid=762927602

  My maintenance of the task governing this is very minimal. I have nothing much to offer right now.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 13:59, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

So what should I do? Since the error keeps appearing. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:08, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Cyberbot I "no difference" edits

Cyberbot I is making twice-daily edits to sandboxes like Template:X1, which get saved even when there is no difference, example. Is it possible to check whether there will be a change before saving the edit? - Evad37 [talk] 00:42, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response. Cyberbot edits on a schedule. It's a very simple script, edit all pages with the same content. Null edits should be silently discarded by the MW software.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 00:01, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Someone else has brought it on on WP:VPT#Cyberbot_I_continually_cleaning_sandboxes, by the way. - Evad37 [talk] 00:39, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Cyberbot blanking entire page

While attempting to remove a protection tag from Women Seeking Women, Cyberbot blanked the entire page. Please investigate. — Train2104 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Occasional leaked edit from the disabled task. Sometimes the bot fails to read the run page.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 00:02, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Cyberbot I: Some explanation would be nice when not archiving requests at RFPP

Hi there. Cyberbot I oftentimes mentions pending requests when auto-clerking WP:RFPP, like with this edit. Could you maybe add some kind of explanation mechanism so one can figure out which requests the bot deems "pending"? In the example I mentioned for instance, all requests were already responded to, so I can't figure out why it didn't archive them. Regards SoWhy 11:59, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

I don't know why it says there are pending requests when there aren't.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 00:03, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Book reports no longer report issues?

Taking a look at Book talk:Canada, it seems the book reports aren't reporting issues with articles anymore. What gives? Economic history of Canada has several maintenance templates, and none are picked up by the bot. This seems to have happen for all books in March 2016 or so [7]. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 03:13, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Would you like to take over the task? I believe you were involved in its initial development.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 02:14, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

I would if I could, but my coding chops are... not great. So the learning curve on how to code that stuff and figure out what's wrong and how to fix it would probably take me a few months, and given that I can't even figure out how to get my existing User:Bibcode Bot to work after the API change last year... Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 10:29, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

I thought you helped User:Noommos develop User:NoomBot. It's the same code, other than the modifications I made to use OAuth after the API change.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 15:01, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

I helped in terms of fleshing out the ideas of what the bot should or shouldn't do. But I didn't code any of it. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 15:04, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

I see. Can you open a phab task outlining the details of the bug so I can study it when I get the chance.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 15:05, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Done. See T157876. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 15:19, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Cyberbot 1 error: Mistaken warning about removal of deletion notice

Hi. Your bot mistakenly gave me a warning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SpikeballUnion#Issuing_level_1_warning_about_removing_AfD_template_from_articles_before_the_discussion_is_complete._.28Peachy_2.0_.28alpha_8.29.29 about the removal of a deletion notice regarding the following concluded discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dicko_Fils. SpikeballUnion (talk) 00:34, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

The discussion was not closed at the time of removal. This is not an error.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 15:23, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm a little confused

If a user's talk page is not the right place to make a request of that user, what is the right place? World's Lamest Critic (talk) 04:40, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) World's Lamest Critic the correct place would be Talk:Heights of presidents and presidential candidates of the United States and indeed there is already a discussion there regarding this. If there is an edit war going on then you may request page protection for the article here. Jimbo Wales has many powers, however requesting someone measure Trump is not one of them. That would also class as original research anyway. I hope this helps to explain things.--5 albert square (talk) 05:02, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

I foolishly thought that Jimbo would speak and act for himself. Thanks for the tip about requesting page protection - I'm going to ignore it. Keep up the good work! World's Lamest Critic (talk) 05:07, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Editor continuing to war about channel lists

Your recent protection of OSN has been mentioned in a a warning I left here to User:Lifesdear. I conclude that you considered the editor's changes at OSN to be disruptive, and I agree. For a brief moment I considered adding 30-500 to the other article also, but this guy is too far out on the limb already. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 04:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

My advice is if he continues, the best solution is to block the user and reduce the article to semi protection.—CYBERPOWER (Message) 05:11, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Revision history statistics (again)

Sometime in January 2017, the "Revision History Statistics" page had changed from "Article Info" to "Wikihistory". The original Article Info page is more concise than the new version. Here is an example using Pokémon Theme: Old Version; New Version. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 03:43, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Template:Wayback

I restored this template since it still has about 25 transclusions. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 21:57, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

It didn't have those before (other than a few sandboxes). Looks like some editors are adding a red link deleted template. When does it end? -- GreenC 22:39, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The template was long announced as being merged and was deleted after the transclusions were changed to webarchive. The template should be deleted.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 22:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@Green Cardamom: do you want to run WaybackMedic on those lingering articles so I can delete the template again?—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 16:37, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes sure won't take long, currently WM is apart on the floor and once it's back together I'll run it soon. -- GreenC 19:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

This is done, 12 articles/drafts. I wonder, there are 100s of non-transclusions and it creates a lot of red links in the system to delete entirely. Is there a way to have non-transclusions redirect to {{webarchive}} without a transclusion? ie. so it wouldn't be possible to use {{wayback}} as a redirect of {{webarchive}}, but it would be possible to do a {{tld|wayback}} and have it do or say something about the move to {{webarchive}}? Otherwise if someone has never heard of {{webarchive}} and tries to use {{wayback}} (or sees an old {{tld|wayback}} on a talk page) they won't know what happened. (also ping Plastikspork). -- GreenC 18:35, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Not to my knowledge. It's either deleted or not. You can't have blue links redirect and transclusions not work. I can make a notice in the deletion summary that Webarchive is to be used.—CYBERPOWER (Be my Valentine) 18:46, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Out of caution and seeing if there are other options I started a thread here: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#.7B.7Bwayback.7D.7D. -- GreenC 17:33, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Cyberbot and AfD tags

Please see this edit where Cyberbot added an AfD tag to a user page because a malformed AfD had been created by a long-term abuser. Could you please look into making sure the addition of missing AfD tags is restricted to articles? BethNaught (talk) 08:26, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

I can try, but I won't be able to get around to it for a bit.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 13:58, 17 February 2017 (UTC)