Cydevil
Korean People
editPlease refer to the talk page before making major edits to try to gain consensus and to avoid edit wars. Thanks.Melonbarmonster 20:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
One of the links cited in the page does not seem to work. (The inaccessble link gives "´¦Àí URL ʱ·þÎñÆ÷³ö´í¡£ÇëÓëϵͳ¹ÜÀíÔ±ÁªÏµ¡£" on my browser, which is probably a broken encoding of "page not found" or something similar.) YooChung 12:41, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm... I'm not sure which one you're talking about. Can you please provide a link? Cydevil 01:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- http://www.guoxue.com/economics/ReadNews.asp?NewsID=1248&BigClassID=16&SmallClassID=93&SpecialID=71, currently in the third footnote. YooChung 02:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- I can't access the link either. As for the claim that cites the link, it can be confirmed in many other sources, so I think a simple removal of the link will do. If someone insists on a citation, I'm pretty sure there are plenty around. Cydevil 02:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Vandals and more vandals
editA mandatory vacation has been implemented. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 02:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
RfM
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The poem
editFor what it is worth, I liked the poem. --Nlu (talk) 00:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- It was a poem written by Eulji Mundeok, who used the poem to taunt Sui General Yu Zhongwen before the Battle of Salsu. Recently, the Korean delegation to ROK-US FTA negotiations have sent the poem at the coming final rounds on the most sensitive trade issues. It's quite a shame that there's no information available on this poem at Wikipedia. Perhaps I'll make an article on it :) Cydevil 00:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, unfortunately Yuan Wanqin's declaration against Goguryeo (see zh:s:資治通鑑/卷201) did not survive, otherwise the Chinese delegation could respond with it. :-) --Nlu (talk) 00:28, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Goguryeo
editIt seems that the CPOV editors have quited down so that they can wait for the Mediation Committee to make a "compromise" (of course, any compromise is good for the CPOV guys). It's not that I'm a stubborn guy who wouldn't mediate at all, & I love the mediation committee, but I think that this case is too big of a responsibility for the mediation commmittee to handle.
Since the CPOV editors are taking a strategical stance on this issue, so must we, or there would be a terrible precedence set on which many other article changes can be made.
All we need is "consensus has not been reached". That means that the article remains in the previous state. CPOV editors can't argue that b/c consensus had not been reached the article should be in CPOV state, because those CPOV changes are new additions. (Wikimachine 16:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC))
- I believe it would be a great idea to create a web community, maybe at Daum, where we can discuss and share resources for a more concerted effort. I have gathered considerable amounts of evidence, and I would like to share them.
As for the CPOV editors(Assault11, Ksyrie, Yeahsoo, Endroit), they have little idea of what they're talking about, and what the secondary neutral sources are saying. For instance, Endroit quotes Gina L. Barnes to posit that Goguryeo grew out of Gaogouli prefecture of the Xuantu commandery. However, Gina Barnes, in another book, explicitly states that state formation of the three kigndoms was made possible because they were outside China's political control. And he goes as far as calling this the "Xuantu Commandery theory", which doesn't exist. Neutral secondary sources are on our side, and its only a matter of gathering them. Cydevil 00:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
And I agree, any compromise is a loss of NPOV. These CPOV editors are extremists, and we have to make that known by proving that the general consensus of neutral experts say otherwise. Cydevil 00:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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Sock puppets
editHey Cydevil, as for most of the sock puppets you've mentioned, I've asked Nlu to check on them on basis of "trash away accounts" per WP:RCU. However, he asked me to apply them to WP:ANI (?). (Wikimachine 11:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC))
- I guess that could work out. Or the new Korea history forum. Here. (Wikimachine 12:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC))
- At the same time, we might just be satisfied with WP:KO. Good friend100 won't like this idea at the risk of POV consensus building. (Wikimachine 12:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC))
Retirement
editI will not waste my time here any further. I have a life, and I will not waste my time on idiots and bigots. Wikipedia is where bigots and idiots become victors. Cydevil 14:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- I don't care if this "retirement announcement" is real or not; one more edit like this -- a thoroughly unacceptable outburst -- and you'll be blocked. You don't have a monolpoly on frustration through this process. You are/were on Wikipedia, and therefore you have to abide by Wikipedia policies. It is ironic that you accuse others of bigotry, and yet you do not examine yourself to see if you aren't exhibiting the same issues. I've tried to work with you in good faith; it is unfortunate to see that, apparently, you don't wish to reciprocate. --Nlu (talk) 16:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hey, just don't leave until the dispute is settled. (Wikimachine 18:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC))
Joseon Dynasty
editHi, Cydevil. Could you come to Talk:Joseon Dynasty and join discussions on Joseon Dynasty's sovereignty? A User:Jpatokal are I do not agree on the issue and I think 3rd opinion from editors would be good in the current circumstance. I need more opinion from editors who know Korean history. Thank you.--Historiographer (talk) 14:03, 26 June 2009 (UTC)