DHanson317

Longevity myths

I hope is good here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Longevity_myths&action=historysubmit&diff=384943164&oldid=384939591 Wikimanno (talk) 08:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Webb

This has happened before; the GRG site sometimes is slower to process on some computers than others. The list probably has Webb listed and is updated, but we can't see it, a user may have a good computer and it worked. Leave her as validated (for now). --Nick Ornstein (talk) 00:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Vicenta Pineda Santacruz

Hi DHanson317,

May I know your justification for restoring Vicenta Pineda Santacruz to the unverified supercentenarians page? Brendan (^TalK|_ContriB) 05:42, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I was the one who originally removed it. She originally claimed 110 back in May, then during her birthday, she claimed 113. Who knows why? Maybe one journalist decided to change her birthdate and then all the other articles followed suit or it is a typo. Regardless, I was under the impression that the lower, more likely age is usually the one that is put down and is accepted. In the case of Rose Axelrod, which was removed, her lower age of 106 was taken instead of the 110 claim. I don't think she should be removed just because 113 was claimed at one point. DHanson317 (talk) 06:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I see your point... but Santacruz did have an entry on Longevity claims... Brendan (^TalK|_ContriB) 07:28, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

It got removed on Longevity claims so I thought that it probably should go back on the main page. DHanson317 (talk) 07:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh. I just found that out. Thanks for your patience with this matter. Brendan (^TalK|_ContriB) 08:40, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Great work

I was checking through the country/continent supercentenarian articles and I saw that you cited every source to the right place on the GRG from Austria to Japan (good idea taking a rest). Thank you for saving me from hours of work. Believe you me, it takes a lot of work to do that. Keep it up! --Nick Ornstein (talk) 01:38, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

They definitely need sources so people won't put up false information. DHanson317 (talk) 03:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Longevity COI

Please participate in a discussion about users with conflicts of interest editing the topic of longevity. Your name has been mentioned here. JJB 20:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom

You are involved in a recently-filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Longevity and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Requests for Arbitration;
• Wikipedia:Arbitration guide.

Thanks, JJB 23:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Longevity

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Longevity/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Longevity/Workshop.

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If you are interested in providing evidence for this case, please see this note about a deadline. NW (Talk) 18:52, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

This is long overdue

	The Working Man's Barnstar
	Seeing as you work diligently on the supercentenarian-related pages, including updates in accordance with Table E, and saving supercentenarian articles from AfDs, I think this barnstar is long overdue. Keep it up! Brendan (talk, contribs) 10:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Flags

Please read MOS:FLAG in full rather cherrypicking from it, and plaese don't restore the flags to List of French supercentenarians.

Do you want me to quote all the sections of MOS:FLAG which apply here? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:05, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes please. I would like to know which ones apply. Because if there are any, I cannot find it. DHanson317 (talk) 04:07, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

There are lots of them:

• When icons are added excessively, they clutter the page and become redundant
• Do not emphasize nationality without good reason
• Do not use flags to indicate locations of birth and death (which is precisely what they are being used for in that list, placing for example Italian, Spanish and American flags next to ppl who died outside France without evidence that they changed their nationality)
• Do not use subnational flags without direct relevance. why exactly do you believe that the use of obscure subnational flags is directly relevant to these people?

--BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:13, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

See a more detailed explanation at User talk:SiameseTurtle#Flags_on_lists_of_old_people. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:51, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

You reverted, requesting clarification. Please discuss this. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

David, I have asked you three times to discuss why you believe that these lists should be an exception to MOS:FLAG, but you have declined to do so. Instead, you have just restored the flags yet again, without discussion. I will remove them again, and if you persist in restoring them without a serious effort at discussion, I will take this further. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:23, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Essentially, SiameseTurtle took the words out of my mouth. I do not believe that the flags are visually distracting or irrelevant. DHanson317 (talk) 02:27, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Please read MOS:FLAG, and read the list of probs at User_talk:SiameseTurtle#Flags_on_lists_of_old_people.

The problems are not limited to being visually distracting or irrelevant, and include misleading readers as to nationality. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:30, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Misleading readers should not be a problem. The tables clearly indicate place of birth and place and death. Not nationality. If a reader would like to make the inference that where one is born and/or where one dies indicates their nationality then that is up to the reader's own decision. DHanson317 (talk) 02:34, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

That issue is covered by the guidelines, which explain very clearly that the use of the flag visually conveys nationality, even if the text says otherwise.

The guideline also explicitly deprecates using flags for regions ... and there is a long list of other problems.

Please do try to engage with the guidelines seriously, rather than giving brief replies to along list of problems. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:38, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

2 things

International immigrant records

I personally do not agree on keeping this section. The primary section is supposed to be about the oldest born in a state. As you know, Mortensen, Ray, and Kinase were born elsewhere.

For this section, I think it should be the oldest from each country, like I once had. But it doesn't look like anyone wants it. DHanson317 (talk) 21:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Kashi Ram Rai

Tons of other articles note centenarians as "celebrating" their birthday on a particular. We list those cases as being born on the day that they celebrate. We never know, he may have been born on January 1, do chances seem very slim? Yes. But we shouldn't assume he was born on another day. I myself would keep him on the page. --Nick Ornstein (talk) 17:06, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

But we can't assume what day he was born on because it never explicitly said. We know that centenarians always don't celebrate their birthday on the actual day of their birthday. One example was Helen Netherton who celebrated her 110th birthday two months prior. DHanson317 (talk) 21:59, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Longevity

An arbitration case regarding Longevity has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

1. Standard discretionary sanctions are enacted for all articles related to Longevity (broadly interpreted);
2. Ryoung122 (talk · contribs) is indefinitely prohibited from editing, commenting on, or otherwise participating in any Wikipedia process related to articles about longevity (broadly interpreted);
3. John J. Bulten (talk · contribs) is banned from Wikipedia for a period of one year;
4. WikiProject World's Oldest People is urged to seek experienced Wikipedia editors who will act as mentors to the project and assist members in improving their editing and their understanding of Wikipedia policies and community norms;
5. Within seven days of the conclusion of this case, all parties must either delete evidence sub-pages in their user space or request deletion of them using the {{db-author}} or {{db-self}} template.

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Anonymous French cases

In case you missed the list posted by one of the French correspondents, they posted a list of the oldest French people on the WOP. [1] You notice two people born 10 March 1901, but both are living in two different places. There are some errors detected in the list, such as André Coudrat being born 28 June 1902, rather than 9 July. Marie-Cressence Madacène being born in 1902, rather than 1903. --Nick Ornstein (talk) 03:17, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Swiss supercentenarians for deletion

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Please refrain from personal attacks

This edit summary violates WP:NPA. You've used the personal pronoun "you" and yours is the edit immediately after mine, and responding to my cite requests. If you must deprecate, you may find it useful to try to write in the third person.

I take no position on the factual content of your edit summary: "[u]nbelievable...your are seriously one of the most ignorant people ever...." But it seems doubtful. Your are probably seriously underestimating the ignorance of others, both now and throughout history. David in DC (talk) 17:28, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please review this edit. I've opened a thread on the project talk page for discussion. David in DC (talk) 00:43, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

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I see you added three Anonymous cases from the United Kingdom on the Future supercentenarians>Incomplete claims list. Do you have the links for them? Thank you. --Nick Ornstein (talk) 22:10, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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Françoise Grisanti, latest French supercentenarian

I don't understand why you suppressed the information about Françoise Grisanti without any explanation...The information is checked and there is a link on it. So, what's the problem ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnaud LE PAGE (talk • contribs) 23:25, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Because she is already 110, I put her on the list of living supercentenarians page.DHanson317 (talk) 23:30, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry but I think I don't understand. Is this list for pending cases only ? For example, Elisabeth Chaudière is in the same case, isn't it ? She's a french living supercentenarian not validated by GRG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnaud LE PAGE (talk • contribs) 23:44, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Updating the latest person on the list

I was at Jennie Pattist's 110th birthday party today. (She turned 110 yesterday)

There will be an article about it at www.poststar.com by tomorrow morning.

Bill Toscano btoscano@poststar.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.104.231.235 (talk) 18:18, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

for correcting this careless error. I replaced a small WP:MOS error with a much larger substantive error. I'm grateful you noticed so quickly. David in DC (talk) 20:08, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Oldest Lithuanian ever

Hey. I was asking this question earlier but nobody answered. If Emilija Krištopaitiene age will be verified or listed as pending, does that mean that she is the oldest Lithuanian ever, older than Ella Ille Rentel? 62.72.230.103 (talk) 06:11, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

DHansen317 I am interested to know where I have erred when I have posted an entry for the oldest person in the province of British Columbia. An explanation goes along way to help users. Thanks. Turner DR (talk) 07:51, 15 June 2013 (UTC) Turner DR

Is there a source for it? I seriously doubt that the oldest within British Columbia is only 106.DHanson317 (talk) 01:25, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

• You certainly do not ask your question by creating a ridiculous category - in that you certainly erred. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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Sina Hayes

When I click the second link

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all I get is a google search. How is that valid? Or do you get something else? DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 21:18, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

List of living supercentenarians

Hello! Could you explain why you reverted my edit to the List of living supercentenarians article? Thanks in advance, Heymid (contribs) 13:50, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying why the Saro Dursun claim can't be included in the article. I should probably be punished for not reading the rules for inclusion. But I do feel confused by the fact that the Saro Dursun AFD closed as redirect to this article, plus the fact that the descriptions for the lists are a little bit confusing as well. "but whose lifespan is not documented" - what does that mean? Given that the official population registers in Sweden report this birth date, isn't her lifespan "documented" then? But I will follow your advice and put it in the Longevity claims article. Heymid (contribs) 18:03, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

• If the List of European supercentenarians is only for supercentenarians aged 113 or under, then the article text should state that. Currently it doesn't. Heymid (contribs) 16:48, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

It is implied based on the list of living supercentenarians list. Also, the population registers aren't necessarily confirmation that she is still living. There needs to be more concrete evidence.DHanson317 (talk) 16:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

GRG pending list

Hi, You just updated the pending list from GRG but the link still goes to the old (July 15, 2013) list. I can't find any update, do you have a link? Cheers, DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 20:42, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Refresh your browser. Mine goes to August 15, 2013.DHanson317 (talk) 20:45, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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Gladys Ada Elizabeth HOOPER - 18th January 1903

I have tried contacting the GRG but they are either significantly behind in processing claims or not interested in British supercentenarians. Their lists are dominated by U.S. and Japanese claims. I have sent Birth & Christening records (which both show date of birth) for Gladys Hooper born 18th January 1903. I have also sent photographs of her with her 111th birthday card from HM The Queen and a telegram congratulating her on her 111th birthday from Iain Duncan-Smith, Minister for Works & Pensions. And yet this entry onto 'official' lists is still 'pending'. I have asked GRG what other information they require - but received no answer.

As my Grandmother does not drive or go abroad she has no license or passport! What other evidence is required for 'validation'?

Cf252 (talk) 00:59, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Why blank the page?

Can't understand it 86.165.207.189 (talk) 17:01, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Oldest living resident in Burkina Faso

Hi. I'd like to know is Célestine Ouezzin Coulibaly (born in 1914) oldest living woman or oldest woman ever in Burkina faso at the age of 100?62.72.229.12 (talk) 14:17, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

My user page is better than this one

Greetings. I am a Wikipedia user page judge. I saw your user page and I must say that mine is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more interesting than this one. I mean, all you have is a list of living supercentenarians (some of them are deceased, by the way), and I have many things on my user page that can beat your page in a Wikipedia "Best Userpage" contest by a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG shot! (Deaths in 2013)

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