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Latest comment: 1 year ago by DankJae in topic Kinmel Hall


Kinmel Hall

There's something a bit odd about this one. Our article says its in Conwy County Borough, and the Cadw listing uses the CONway coding, PGW(Gd)54(CON). But the record for the garden/park says Denbighshire, while the Cadw record for the hall says Conwy, [1]. Which do we use as we've RS saying both? KJP1 (talk) 08:54, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

The hall is definitely in Conwy so the article titled on the hall should remain Conwy, the park however is in both, so Cadw probably had a technical difficulty describing that or could be an error. The map on Cadw’s website does show the boundaries of Kinmel Park is on the border of Conwy and Denbighshire. But most of it is in Conwy, including the hall itself (hence the article stating such), but the park labelled as Denbighshire is indeed confusing. My guess is it is a sort of compromise for cross-border listed parks, so both authorities are mentioned somewhat. Confused why they didn’t duplicate it like they do for listed buildings.
My preference would be to tag it as both Denbighshire and Conwy categorically as that is what it is on the surface and map wise, but if we have to follow the records word by word, then well only Denbighshire it is, categorically for the park. But Conwy tags referring to the hall should remain if any. As the article is mainly on the hall, small sections on the park can have a simple mention that the park extends into Denbighshire. DankJae 09:54, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
@KJP1, tagged you, in case this page is not watched. It would be simpler and be my preferred to list both, although if being strict with sourcing then only Denbighshire, but does not really make sense as it is more in Conwy CB. DankJae 20:54, 16 February 2023 (UTC)