DavidTanCreti

Edward Eaton Mason moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Edward Eaton Mason, is not suitable as written to remain published. It appears there is a WP:UPE or WP:COI conflict. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, and have addressed the UPE/COI issue, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. As per WP policy, please do not move into mainspace yourself. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:54, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Too long

The intent is not a biography. Limit the draft to Mason. I've made some cuts as examples of where information was not relevant, even if referenced. David notMD (talk) 21:45, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

@David notMD I did not click "Submit your draft for review". I agree that there is much that can be cut. I will learn from your examples. However Mason's work with tuberculosis and treatment of giant hernias with air injected to stretch the abdomen are important to his career. I will continue seek your and other's help. I hope I have answered the UPE and COI issues. ParaDocs (talk) 04:10, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

"important to his career" or contribute to his notability? Only obesity surgery matters. Also, do you have a strong reference for "father of obesity surgery"? Something other than the Iowa City Press-Citizen? David notMD (talk) 11:55, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

I've been a Wikipedia editor for more than 15 years, closing in on 50,000 edits, and have raised more than a dozen articles to Good Article status. My cuts and recommendations for your draft are intended to increase the likelihood that it will be approved by a reviewer. David notMD (talk) 12:17, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

@David notMD

As an aside, ParaDocs applies to my wife and I being MDs. I am David MD (smile).

https://bariatrictimes.com/the-father-of-bariatric-surgery-discusses-diabetes-resolution-family-health-and-life/

Here is another reference. They liked to use the word bariatric

so as not to anger patients I expect.

Mason's research was based on wide experience

and the analysis of the data of many surgeries

he collected from from many surgeons across the world.

Saving the lives of 600lb patients was very much related

to his bringing an advanced hernia surgery to University Hospitals.

His PhD work was related to applying computing and science to medicine.

Can you help me report this to readers of Wikipedia?

We can and should cut excessive unrelated material.

But a report limited to a surgery with no context is a disservice.

One more question. Does this talk box have a spell checker? ParaDocs (talk) 13:07, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

On a different note, I recommend a preferred format for journal article reference that incorporates a hyperlink to the article at PubMed. When a journal article title is entered at https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ the search yields the article, including a PMID number. Entering that PMID number at https://tools.wmflabs.org/citation-template-filling/cgi-bin/index.cgi generates reference content. For example, for #15 you have whereas using the ref generator yields.

On you

I've got to move on (long goal of raising all vitamin and food allergy articles to GA status). At some point, submit - a reviewer will either accept or decline. If the latter, the reviewer will provide shortfalls that need to be addressed. A MAJOR problem is that more than one-third of the references are to Mason's book "A Fat Chance" What the subject of an article has published add nothing to establishing notability. Are there at least three references to what people with no connection to Mason have written about Mason? At some length, i.e., not just a name-mention in passing?

Be aware that between submitting and getting reviewed can be as short as same day to as long as months (there is a backlog, but the system is not a queue). Good luuk. David notMD (talk) 13:53, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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