Db1256

May 2021

Your recent editing history at Emma Raducanu shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Kingsif (talk) 21:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

I hope this rule pertains to CABF45 as well. I will refrain from changing that content. I have posted comments on the talk page explaining my position on the inappropriateness of including that Simona Halep quote, and the inconsistency of allowing other tennis players' opinions on national allegiances to make the life section, while suppressing any extremely strong British identity self-expression from Emma Raducanu. Db1256 (talk) 21:22, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

This is regarding your edits about the royal comments, which have been reverted by two different users, neither of which is CABF45. Only you have crossed into edit warring territory. Kingsif (talk) 21:26, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

I won't post it again until the talk section has dealt with it (last posted according to the history page, 17:15

CABF45 has repeatedly re-posted that Simona Halep quote though. Consistency surely means should he re-post it again he would be engaging in an edit war before it has been settled in the talk section. Db1256 (talk) 21:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Until your edits today, neither of you had made more than three edits in 24 hours; the initial disputes over the Halep quote took place over three days, and was only messed with twice after discussion started. And, naturally, deciding to add contentious text after there has been discussion is generally more egregious than the initial spat when you may not be aware of the disruption. Kingsif (talk) 21:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

And, yes, don't worry, I am watching all the edits at the moment. Kingsif (talk) 21:48, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Emma Raducanu, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Kingsif (talk) 21:26, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Kingsif. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Kingsif (talk) 22:22, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Question

I just have to ask, are you here to build an encyclopedia, or are you here because you saw something you didn't like and are adamant it must be removed or countered no matter what? Because you've clearly had a bad impression of Wikipedia and the processes (yes, more red tape than you were expecting?) from the start, but if you actually want to contribute, a little attitude adjustment would go a long way. If you don't plan on sticking around, well, you've got the wrong impression of the one issue you are insistent on, and so there's really no purpose to drawing out anything. Kingsif (talk) 22:53, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Raducanu and Halep's quote

I think Halep was sarcastic. Based on these pictures do you think Raducanu's "father" is her biological father? I think Halep's emphasis was on adoption, not Romania.
Please assume good faith. Both Halep and me want nothing but the best for the United Kingdom. CABF45 (talk) 07:17, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Emma Raducanu

Can you please explain to me why you reverted my properly referenced edit? Earlier you only had wanted a balanced view on her connections to those four countries/cultures. CABF45 (talk) 14:56, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Because your Halep quote is tenous and not relevant, and your Chinese citation is simply a falsehood. Nowhere in your cited article does it say "most social media users in China started celebrating her Chinese heritage". Emma is largely unknown in China. She has 17,000 followers on Weibo (compared to 6.82 million followers for Eileen Gu, an athlete who is actually relevant in China).

You are trying to push the narrative of Emma being in some sense a homeless nomad with no natural national identity who instead holds these four countries up in some sort of equality of importance. This simply doesn't bear out in reality; it may be important your you personally for China and Romania and presumably Canada to each get 25% of entries on her wikipedia page, but that's simply your own desires, it doesn't pertain to Emma Raducanu. Db1256 (talk) 15:53, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm quoting the BBC News article:

Social media users in China are celebrating British tennis star Emma Raducanu - not just for her historic US Open win, but her Chinese heritage.

Plus:

But some users chose to keep some distance: "She's British - why are all of you now trying to claim her as your own?"

I DO think I quoted the article in a fair and balanced way.
If Halep's statement is 'tenous and not relevant', then why did The Daily Telegraph and the Tennis Magazine quote it? CABF45 (talk) 15:58, 16 May 2022 (UTC)