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Welcome to Wikipedia, Douglas. Apologies for the rough introduction that we sometimes give to our valued new contibutors. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello - thanks for the message. This AFD took place almost a year ago, so I had to reacquaint myself with the discussion and the article's text at the time of its deletion (which I can view as an administrator). The current Douglas Berger page is a redirect to Doug Berger, an article about a North Carolina state senator. Although your username is similar to the article's subject, I'm not certain, so my comments are in the third person.
As I stated in my closing statement, the version of the article about which you ask failed WP:BIO because of a lack of secondary, third-party, reliable sources. Notable people do not necessarily have articles written by them, but they have articles written about them. In addition, the notability standards for academics require verification of status and recognition by independent sources.
Not one secondary source was included in this article, but it did have lots of primary sources. It was more like a CV than an encyclopedia article, which did not help at the AFD because Wikipedia is not a directory or a web host. Several of the cited 'references' were letters to the editors of different publications; the Science article you referenced was considered in the AFD discussion and is apparently a summary of the drug development process in Japan. All are written by him, yet no third-party publications or people talk about him, or his experience, or his method, or his fame, or his expertise. I hope I'm being clear and that you understand the difference between the two types of sources, because it is the crux of the issue.
Even if the notability standards were stretched in this case for the number of published pieces he has written, it is possible for someone to be notable according to WP:PROF and yet not be an appropriate topic for an article in Wikipedia because of a lack of reliable, independent sources about the subject. Every topic on Wikipedia must be one for which sources exist, and this article simply didn't have any.
If an article can be written with secondary, independent, verifiable, reliable sources that discuss the man, instead of a list of articles he has written himself, feel free to create one. However, if it is similar to the deleted article, it will be deleted again.
I hope I have answered your questions, and feel free to contact me if you need further assistance. Thanks. - KrakatoaKatie 04:40, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
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editWe don't speedily delete articles just because they're not perfect. If you object to unsourced statements in the article, removed them or tag them as unsourced. OhNoitsJamie Talk 04:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
This page was nominated for deletion on 6 May 2008. The result of the discussion was No Consensus to delete. |
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