DennisGroves

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Hello, DennisGroves, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I notice that one of the first articles you edited was OWASP, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Widefox; talk 10:47, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that your user page at User:DennisGroves may not be appropriate to be indexed by external search engines as presently written. Typically, this could be because it appears promotional, or contains material in development or archived that doesn't yet meet policies and guidelines. I have tagged this page as __NOINDEX__, which allows editing but minimizes the page's inclusion in search engine results.

If you believe that your userpage does not violate our guidelines, please leave a note here and we can discuss it. As an alternative, you may add {{db-userreq}} to the top of the page in question and an administrator will delete it, you can change the page so that it more clearly meets Wikipedia guidelines, or you can edit it as normal and ignore the tag completely (it will not affect editing).

However, please do not remove the tag without discussion. Thank you. Hi Dennis, I'm not sure if your account is still active, there's another template that you may wish to put on the page to make it look less like an bio and article. Widefox; talk 15:07, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

I am not clear what part of my biography constitutes as a violation of your guidelines? And why is this only a problem 9 months later? DennisGroves (talk)

I just removed everything; it is simpler this way. It is fair enough that the bio I use on OWASP is not a bio for use on wikipedia since it is not relevant to my association with wikipedia. I have no interest in wikipedia other than removing plagiarized statements likely created in ignorance of the facts. DennisGroves (talk)

Hi Dennis, unfortunately the template above wasn't too helpful..WP:USERBIO and WP:UP#PROMO are where I considered that userpage slightly crossed the line - so my concern was all of it really. Please do say if you don't agree, as I'm just one normal editor like yourself. Not a problem now you've blanked it, but you needn't go that far....

COI

(Here's a quick guide WP:PLAINANDSIMPLECOI)
...In fact, (now this is where it might sound silly)...as you have a connection with OWASP per WP:COI, you are encouraged to disclose that COI "on their user pages and on the talk page of the article" -WP:COI - as you had done, just a bit too successfully!. The same for User:Samantha Groves, as you can for yourself check this edit [1] against that guide and draw your own conclusion. Just to be clear, I *do* encourage you to edit any article bearing in mind the COI guidelines, there's no problem with any of your edits, thanks for some sources, and the kind apology accepted. Widefox; talk 17:50, 18 June 2013 (UTC)